Haliburton

[langeweile]

http://www.publicintegrity.org/pns/report.aspx?aid=385


There has been much talk about how Haliburton was awarded federal contracts.
While the reports are true, unfortunately they get blown out of proportion.
The link above will provide a better background as to the overall practice of awarding contracts.
It seems to me that all of our politicians are guilty of playing favors.
I am sure it is no different in Canada

 

[Cardinal Fang]

It seems to me that all of our politicians are guilty of playing favors.

I agree. But that doesn't justify allowing it to happen. Any politician that does this, regardless of political stripe, should be made to pay. While everything may be legal when it comes to these actions "perception is reality" in the eye of the general public.

I am sure it is no different in Canada

See Canada's Sponsership Scandal currently being investigated.

 

[langeweile]

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I agree. But that doesn't justify allowing it to happen. Any politician that does this, regardless of political stripe, should be made to pay. While everything may be legal when it comes to these actions "perception is reality" in the eye of the general public.


I am not justifying the action, but I find it interesting, that the press is trying to play up this issue at this particular time.
None of the press reports in regards to Haliburton points out, that this process is a standard procedure.
If you supposed to be fair and balanced, why do you just tell part of the truth?

 

[ocean976124]

For all the news about thed big contracts Haliburton got out of the Iraq war the press neglects one glarring fact: Haliburton is losing money based on those contracts. In fact, they're losing so much money on the Iraq contracts they are thinking of selling the subsidiary that is doing the contracting work...

 

[big dogie]

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Originally posted by langeweile

I am not justifying the action, but I find it interesting, that the press is trying to play up this issue at this particular time.
None of the press reports in regards to Haliburton points out, that this process is a standard procedure.
If you supposed to be fair and balanced, why do you just tell part of the truth? [/B]

it should be no surprise that the richest people in the world want to own newspapers and TV networks..... they get to control what we read and hear thus control what we think ......... I think we are fairly lucky in Canada that we have the CBC goverenment funded but not controled, it is less biased then the American networks with no agenda

b d

 

[langeweile]

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it should be no surprise that the richest people in the world want to own newspapers and TV networks..... they get to control what we read and hear thus control what we think ......... I think we are fairly lucky in Canada that we have the CBC goverenment funded but not controled, it is less biased then the American networks with no agenda

b d

It seems to me that the conservatives in Canada feel, that the CBC is not balanced at all. At least that's what some of my colleagues at work say.
I can't comment from my own experience, since I get all of my news either from NPR or from the internet.

 

[jwmorrice]

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Originally posted by langeweile ...If you supposed to be fair and balanced, why do you just tell part of the truth?

Hey, that phrase has a ring of familiarity to it. Now where have I heard that said before?

jwm

 

[banshie]

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It seems to me that the conservatives in Canada feel, that the CBC is not balanced at all. At least that's what some of my colleagues at work say.
I can't comment from my own experience, since I get all of my news either from NPR or from the internet.

People at either end of the political spectrum will say that the CBC, or other news media, is not balanced, because it doesn't reflect their particular point of view exactly. IMO, the CBC is more balanced than most other media I have come across, but perhaps this is due to my own bias. In order to accurately determine whether a source is balanced, one has to be without bias. I am afraid no such individual exists!

The BBC has always had the reputation of having the most balanced coverage, and it likely is the only (major) source that even attempts a world, rather than regional, perspective. Having said that, the BBC's image has becomes somewhat tarnished over the David Kelly fiasco.

 

[guelph]

For all the news about thed big contracts Haliburton got out of the Iraq war the press neglects one glarring fact: Haliburton is losing money based on those contracts. In fact, they're losing so much money on the Iraq contracts they are thinking of selling the subsidiary that is doing the contracting work...

and insurance companies are all losing money on all policies

 

[danmand]

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It seems to me that the conservatives in Canada feel, that the CBC is not balanced at all. At least that's what some of my colleagues at work say.

As you all know from the discussion on this board, it is impossible to be "balanced" enough for the conservatives. Hell, they consider the US newsorganizations to be communist mouthpieces (liberal).

 

[BiggieE]

I recall reading at the time Haliburton was awarded the Iraq contracts, that they are one of about 4-5 companies in the world that has the capability to do that kind of work...and some of the other companies are French...so you know what happened there...

 

[MRMARCUS]

Cheney is linked to Haliburton, which everyone knows. Haliburton has recieved the majority of the oil contracts the US government has given. Both Iraqi gulf wars were very profitable for the Haliburton company.
How could they being losing money, have you seen the price of oil these days.
Millions of innocent people are killed so that a few fat cats can get fatter.

 

[BiggieE]

Cheney is linked to Haliburton, which everyone knows. Haliburton has recieved the majority of the oil contracts the US government has given. Both Iraqi gulf wars were very profitable for the Haliburton company.
How could they being losing money, have you seen the price of oil these days.
Millions of innocent people are killed so that a few fat cats can get fatter.

The suppliers control the barrell price of oil

Nevermind the fact that Iraqis are going to have the opportunity to vote...like you and I do...Freedom is'nt free...for anyone..

 

[langeweile]

Cheney is linked to Haliburton, which everyone knows. Haliburton has recieved the majority of the oil contracts the US government has given. Both Iraqi gulf wars were very profitable for the Haliburton company.
How could they being losing money, have you seen the price of oil these days.
Millions of innocent people are killed so that a few fat cats can get fatter.

http://www.factcheck.org/article261.html

 

[ocean976124]

How could they being losing money, have you seen the price of oil these days.
Millions of innocent people are killed so that a few fat cats can get fatter.

Everytime they build something someone attacks it, thus it needs to be rebuilt again. And ofcourse, its not cheap to hire security for your workers, and ofcourse your workers aren't going to go to Iraq for little money.

 

[MRMARCUS]

Depsite what your article says, Cheney DOES get kickbacks from Haliburton and is trying to distance himself from the company. These characters would not be in Iraq if it were not profitable to them and there elite rich friends.
Iragi`s being able to vote, who are they going to choose. Another CIA puppet that has interests of the Amercians instead of the Iragi people.
The proproganda i am hearing is a joke. "Everytime they build something someone attacks it", do you feel sympathy for these terrorists(USA). Does no one care about the innocent people that have died in both Gulf Wars and in between with the heavy sanctions.

 

[Cinema Face]

http://www.publicintegrity.org/pns/report.aspx?aid=385


There has been much talk about how Haliburton was awarded federal contracts.
While the reports are true, unfortunately they get blown out of proportion.
The link above will provide a better background as to the overall practice of awarding contracts.
It seems to me that all of our politicians are guilty of playing favors.
I am sure it is no different in Canada

In Canada patronage is much more common than in the US. 19 out of 20 contracts go to companies what support the Liberals, almost all of them in Quebec.

 

[ocean976124]

The proproganda i am hearing is a joke. "Everytime they build something someone attacks it", do you feel sympathy for these terrorists(USA). Does no one care about the innocent people that have died in both Gulf Wars and in between with the heavy sanctions.

Say what you want about USA's foreign policy but to compare the USA and her brave young soldiers to binLaden's band of murderers is absurd... BTW, were you up in arms when Clinton bombed the heck out of Iraq during "Operation Desert Fox"?

Depsite what your article says, Cheney DOES get kickbacks from Haliburton and is trying to distance himself from the company. These characters would not be in Iraq if it were not profitable to them and there elite rich friends.
Iragi`s being able to vote, who are they going to choose. Another CIA puppet that has interests of the Amercians instead of the Iragi people.

Ah yes, don't let facts get in the way of how you want to view things. Obviously they initially thought Iraq would be profitable, it has not turned out to be so. Of course Halliburton was also a favorite of the Clinton administration yet no one complained for 8 years about their no-bid contracts then.
Claiming Allawi is a "CIA puppet" is unsupported by any facts. The truth is that he was not the one the CIA wanted to lead the intern government, he was the one the Iraqi leaders wanted.

 

[banshie]

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In Canada patronage is much more common than in the US. 19 out of 20 contracts go to companies what support the Liberals, almost all of them in Quebec.

Yes there is too much of this patronage in Canada, but I think you exaggerate the extent. Can you back up 19 out of 20 contracts go to companies what support the Liberals, almost all of them in Quebec. with facts?

More here than in the U.S.? I very much doubt it. Washington is full of lobbyists (does anybody else live there?), who are full-time professionals getting favours from politicians and spending huge amounts of money doing so. Both parties are guilty in this regard.

 

[MRMARCUS]

Allawi, Bin Laden , Saddam Hussein, Shah oF Iran are ex CIA puppets, are they not.!!!
I never compared Bin laden`s "band" to Amercian soldiers. American soldiers kill millions of people and Bin Laden has killed a few thousand.
Are you familiar with the "highway of death".?