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If a person has a flu but the doctor can't tell if its a regular flu or h1n1
so once recovered should the patient go for the h1n1 flu shot ?
 

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If a person has a flu but the doctor can't tell if its a regular flu or h1n1
so once recovered should the patient go for the h1n1 flu shot ?
What I'm hearing is, if you have the flu at this time the chances are it's H1N1. If you've recovered you have some protection, but getting the shot wouldn't hurt.
 

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the only way to tell is to take a throught swab and culture it then look at the results. Your doctor is supposed to do this with all flu cases and then report the results. Most don't do it as it takes time.

If you had H1N1 and you get the shot it will not make a difference, if you did not have H1N1 then the shot is a good plan.
 

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the only way to tell is to take a throught swab and culture it then look at the results. Your doctor is supposed to do this with all flu cases and then report the results. Most don't do it as it takes time.

If you had H1N1 and you get the shot it will not make a difference, if you did not have H1N1 then the shot is a good plan.
That was my understanding. I have not heard of any cases where the person got H1N1 twice.
 

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the only way to tell is to take a throught swab and culture it then look at the results. Your doctor is supposed to do this with all flu cases and then report the results. Most don't do it as it takes time.
WHO, CDC, and Health Canada have advised doctors to stop testing for H1N1 as the number of incoming cases has massively exceeded the available laboratory capacity: it's simply not physically possible to process that many samples.

Now not even all hospitalizations get tested for H1N1.

Before the pandemic blew the lid off the lab capacity your doctor was meant to submit samples for anything more than a mild case, but not swab you if they thought you needed nothing more than "plenty of rest and lots of fluids".

It's worth pointing out that in many cases when people think they have a flu what they actually have is something else. There are many, many diseases that have flu like symptoms, for example, the common cold can seem like a flu.
 

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It's doubtful you'll get it twice this season, but if it's around again in the spring it may be slightly different, having mutated, and then all bets are off.
All bets are off, that's true, but there was a study in the NEJM recently that H1N1 strains show significant cross immunity with previous strains. In that respect if you got it, or got vaccinated, and a mutated version came back you might still get it but you stand a good chance of getting a relatively mild case.

This is another reason to get vaccinated.

One way to think about it is that this virus is a "bigger difference" from the previous viruses you're immune to, and so it adds significantly more to your immune systems capability than the seasonal flu shot, which exposes you to "more of the same" in some respects.

If you are going to get just one flu shot, get the H1N1 shot.
 

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In that respect if you got it, or got vaccinated, and a mutated version came back you might still get it but you stand a good chance of getting a relatively mild case....This is another reason to get vaccinated..... If you are going to get just one flu shot, get the H1N1 shot.
I agree if you're going to get a flu shot, get the H1N1. But it's a good idea to get at least one shot this season because if someone gets a different influenza virus this winter and they get H1N1 simultaneously, this could create a situation in the body that could cause the virus to mutate. Then we could have a whole new hybrid H1N1 virus.

Experts don't know if this is going to happen but it's a definite possibility.
 

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The H1N1 flu seems to have choked out the seasonal flu at the moment which is good news since its generally milder. If it were me and I had a good doctore I would ask him rather than taking advice from anonymous "experts" :rolleyes: here.
 

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I will get it when I don't have to stand in line for more than 20 mins. Which means I am going to be waiting a long time.
 

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The H1N1 flu seems to have choked out the seasonal flu at the moment which is good news since its generally milder. If it were me and I had a good doctore I would ask him rather than taking advice from anonymous "experts" :rolleyes: here.
Throughout this whole discussion on TERB, there have been many references given to back up the comments and 'advise'. Having read the posts on some of the advise given by some posters MDs, I'd begin to wonder a bit. I'm one person who doesn't believe everything my MD says and I've told him that. He smiles and says that's ok with him.
 

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The H1N1 flu seems to have choked out the seasonal flu at the moment which is good news since its generally milder. If it were me and I had a good doctore I would ask him rather than taking advice from anonymous "experts" :rolleyes: here.
What we are not as good as your MD

I am Hurt , devastated, crippled with anguish....................:
 

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Throughout this whole discussion on TERB, there have been many references given to back up the comments and 'advise'. Having read the posts on some of the advise given by some posters MDs, I'd begin to wonder a bit. I'm one person who doesn't believe everything my MD says and I've told him that. He smiles and says that's ok with him.

That's why I qualified it by saying if you had a "good" doctor.
 

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What we are not as good as your MD

I am Hurt , devastated, crippled with anguish....................:
My MD can give me those little blue pills, what can you do ? :D
 

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The H1N1 flu seems to have choked out the seasonal flu at the moment which is good news since its generally milder. If it were me and I had a good doctore I would ask him rather than taking advice from anonymous "experts" :rolleyes: here.
I debunked your do-it-yourself research, where you failed to understand the difference between an estimate and a confirmed report. I provided you with references to multiple medical journals where you learned that you were wrong.

Give it up.

Look, don't take my word for it:

Pandemic swine flu can infect cells deeper in the lungs than seasonal flu can, according to a new study published today in Nature Biotechnology. The researchers, from Imperial College London, say this may explain why people infected with the pandemic strain of swine-origin H1N1 influenza are more likely to suffer more severe symptoms than those infected with the seasonal strain of H1N1.
http://www.microbeworld.org/index.php?option=com_jlibrary&view=article&id=1350

That is the fifth or sixth *different* study I've quoted for you all of which say the same thing.

You have yet to reply with *any* credible source.

I'd like you to provide just ONE article from ONE peer reviewed medical journal which says that H1N1 pandemic is less severe than seasonal influenza for people aged 10 to 60.

Just one, dude, one.

I've give you five now that all say you are wrong.
 

blackrock13

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I debunked your do-it-yourself research, where you failed to understand the difference between an estimate and a confirmed report. I provided you with references to multiple medical journals where you learned that you were wrong.

Give it up.

Look, don't take my word for it:



http://www.microbeworld.org/index.php?option=com_jlibrary&view=article&id=1350

That is the fifth or sixth *different* study I've quoted for you all of which say the same thing.

You have yet to reply with *any* credible source.

I'd like you to provide just ONE article from ONE peer reviewed medical journal which says that H1N1 pandemic is less severe than seasonal influenza for people aged 10 to 60.

Just one, dude, one.

I've give you five now that all say you are wrong.
It look like duckin' and divin' time fuji. Don't hold your breath.
 

blackrock13

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That's why I qualified it by saying if you had a "good" doctor.
I agree, a good doctor is helpful, but their hard to spot from all the horror stories you hear. I've had the opportunity to see both kinds, along with the great mass in the middle, and it scares me sometimes.
 
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