Focus groups cost money so they likely did not use them. We're talking about a run of the mill sweatshirt, not a completely new product line. So the execs likely would not get involved in something so routine.
H&M faces customer boycott over 'racist' hoodie advertising campaign
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Do you live in North America?
Do you remember someone called Barack Obama...just for recent vintage?
Are you actually trivialising legitimate concerns such as this?
Likening black people to apes (gorillas,monkeys etc) has a long dark history. And here you are being flippant about food possibly becoming cultural appropriation.
It's attitudes like that....
This is about a slur.
And that's the point I made above, which you ignored.
You are Black and supposedly have so much knowledge about "monkey" being a choice of words when it comes to Black people. No other people care about the term even though they may call their own babies and toddlers little monkeys.
So you tell us all why that is.
To me, when I saw that green shirt with a Black kid on it saying monkey, I couldn't give a shit. It's a bunch of 7 year olds with green or orange t-shirts with cheesy sayings on them. It's only because these articles popped up claiming it's a racist t-shirt. Put the same shirt on a white, brown or asian kid and nobody cares.
As I said before, if people people stop paying attention to it and "going with the flow" by associating and correlating themselves with the stereotype, it won't be seen that way.
My point is I don't believe it was an Intentional one. Just a stupid one.
I'm reminded of the Ottawa Yoga Teacher at an Ottawa University who was fired because she was white and not Indian. Despite her giving free lessons to handicapped people. And a genuine practitioner.
Feel free to look it up.
So my point where is the line heading? If I make Tacos an I appropriating Mexican Culture? I've actually seen this argument online.
A better pic for this sweatshirt would have been a bunch of kids hanging from jungle gym of various cultural backgrounds.
So yes H&M got it wrong. But I continue to be curious as to when as a white guy I can stop being wrong. Just because of the past.
I agree it was a stupid decision to green light that shirt with a Black kid. They should have known it would explode.
Never the less, it's something that is surely a middle/low level manager who is at fault. No CEO or director is going to give a shit about some children photos on a website selling sweat tops. High level execs don't micromanage everything. So what happened is some marketing or e-com person green lit this material... whether it was designed in-house or from a third party marketing/ad company who does it for them.
As for your sentence of being a white guy and always being portrayed as some kind of overlord, it's actually kind of flattering.
It goes to show that even in 2018, minorities put all white people on a pedestal as some kind of powerful authoritative figure. And it's up to YOU (as a white guy) to appease the masses and give back so they feel better. Doesn't matter if you are a CEO or a fry cook, you are obligated to be "in give back mode" because somehow every white person is rich with a great job, education and grew up with a silver spoon in their mouth..... and has some kind of KKK ties, so a white guy like you has pre-baked racist thoughts since you were a toddler. On the other hand, no whites have shitty jobs, are unemployment, and everything runs smoothly.
The funny thing is US and Canadian demographics are actually similar.... Asians typically have overall better education and avg salaries than whites and blacks. And let's face it, when it comes to troublemakers and the media, there's hardly any asians that are famous. So you don't get any salary skew because of all the rich white and black athletes, movie stars, CEOs etc....
Maybe the best thing to do in life for anyone is just to shut up, go to school, get a good job, and stop trying to be rich and famous athletes, actors and news reporters.
Well according to the rhuarc29 test, if throwing bananas at white people is not racist, then throwing them at black players is not racist. Great logic there.And throw bananas
Ok
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/ottawa/university-ottawa-yoga-cultural-sensitivity-1.3330441
She wasn't employed, the class she ran was cancelled because some nutjobs complained and some pencil pushers wanted to keep their jobs. What you posted is race-war baiting crap.
To answer your question, as a white guy you will continue be wrong when you continue to be wrong. Being white has nothing to do with it.
I don't pay attention to such silly stories because they don't affect anything. My guess is that Obama also doesn't pay attention to people calling him names because he was busy running a country.
Sorry, this is far from a legitimate issue. People are just choosing to be outraged over trivial issues like this. The only reason that they're outraged is because it's easy to do it. All it takes is a Like or Retweet. There are much bigger injustices going on in the world that get little to no attention.
When I was a young kid if I was being chased by an adult while playing I often heard "I'm going to get you you little monkey". For the record I'm not black. Kids love monkeys like you said. Curious George.
It's only those who have hangups about race (derrick76 for instance) that see the sweater as being inherently racist. We live in a post racial society for the most part but we'll never achieve full racial harmony until people can get beyond nonsense like this. Hyper sensitive PC culture is the prime barrier to achieving that.
The world will never be perfect. Never has, never will.
Best thing to do in life is do your best, live it it fun and honest, and when you die you'll realize you had a great time.
Ignore the small things that pester you in life, life will be a lot smoother and better.
Getting hyped up and angry about every little internet article or tweet, or going nuts and OCD because you have a dirty fork in the kitchen sink is just going to rise your blood pressure and make it look like you can't handle anything.
Trust me, that green monkey sweat top isn't going to affect you one bit, and that dirty fork isn't going anywhere. It can be washed tomorrow.
(But I got to say..... reading up on how hyper people get at small stuff gives me laughs. So I guess my blood pressure rises too. lol)
You realize that blowing this thing up gives the racists MORE power because they will continue to use "monkey" as a derogatory term because they know it causes a visceral reaction, right?
You've just given more fuel to the fire for those racist (and/or shit disturber) soccer fans in Europe to hurl more bananas and make monkey chants during games.
You've just given more fuel to the fire for those racist (and/or shit disturber) soccer fans in Europe to hurl more bananas and make monkey chants during games.
And Asians are exploiting and in some cases actually enslaving asians in Asia.
Human beings are jerks.
People have such brittle ears.
Was it racist? Imho no.
Was it in poor taste? Yes
Call em out move on.
Was it racist? Imho no.
Was it in poor taste? Yes
Call em out move on.
This goes down as probably the stupidest knee jerk reaction of all time
Anyone who thinks they were insulting the black boy should be shot to remove them from the gene pool
This was a CHILD and there was no racism involved whatsoever
Anyone who thinks they were insulting the black boy should be shot to remove them from the gene pool
This was a CHILD and there was no racism involved whatsoever
