'guy code'
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Oh it is MUCH crazier with women....
..the "rules" they have are fucking stupid.
You can't date anyone's ex...even if they had drunken sex once in a bar bathroom...he is still an "ex".
You can't date anyone another friend "likes"...even if it has already been established that there is NOTHING that is going to happen there...even if your friend has NO intentions of ever making a move for the guy....because he might make a "move" on her in the next 40 years...and if you go out with him that would prevent this from happening.
You can't date anyone your friend has a crush on...even if she doesn't even know the guys name...if she sees a cute guy on the bus...he is off limits, even though she might never see him again in life. If you do, you better remember he is taken....by her.
All these rules apply even if your friend has a BF...and you don't. Doesn't matter. Any other men she declares as potential future BFs are off limits...and she gets to decide who these men are, even if they don't even know she is alive.
Essentially, all these rules exist to give women more shit to be competitive catty shew bitches about...all the better to screw each other over and stab each other in the back.
Code? Women HAVE no fucking code. Tons of rules...no code.
Only a WOMAN would fuck her sisters husband...or consider a friend buying a dress that she THINKS she MIGHT like a reason to never speak again...
Women...gawd, it must be TOUGH FUCKING WORK being one.
On the other hand, it must be great to have a pussy...if I had one I'd get fucked everyday and twice on Sunday...that is, when I wsn't playing with it...lol
Svend said:
..the "rules" they have are fucking stupid.
You can't date anyone's ex...even if they had drunken sex once in a bar bathroom...he is still an "ex".
You can't date anyone another friend "likes"...even if it has already been established that there is NOTHING that is going to happen there...even if your friend has NO intentions of ever making a move for the guy....because he might make a "move" on her in the next 40 years...and if you go out with him that would prevent this from happening.
You can't date anyone your friend has a crush on...even if she doesn't even know the guys name...if she sees a cute guy on the bus...he is off limits, even though she might never see him again in life. If you do, you better remember he is taken....by her.
All these rules apply even if your friend has a BF...and you don't. Doesn't matter. Any other men she declares as potential future BFs are off limits...and she gets to decide who these men are, even if they don't even know she is alive.
Essentially, all these rules exist to give women more shit to be competitive catty shew bitches about...all the better to screw each other over and stab each other in the back.
Code? Women HAVE no fucking code. Tons of rules...no code.
Only a WOMAN would fuck her sisters husband...or consider a friend buying a dress that she THINKS she MIGHT like a reason to never speak again...
Women...gawd, it must be TOUGH FUCKING WORK being one.
On the other hand, it must be great to have a pussy...if I had one I'd get fucked everyday and twice on Sunday...that is, when I wsn't playing with it...lol
That would be crazy behavior. Thank goodness I have never seen it. I have never known a woman to be like that, with those rules. I have never even seen a woman portrayed that way in TV, film or literature. Where do you get this from?MLAM said:
MLAM said:
Man, I'm glad you're not my friend, not meaning to insinuate you're not worthy or anything, but your ideals just ain't there in my book.
Is your sex drive so strong that you just can't pass up a chick for your friend? You just HAVE to bang/nail/date her?
I think what it boils down to is perspective: if all you're interested in is another notch on your bedpost, then that's one thing but if you are FB, and think you might have something special, then FB should have grown some stones and been truthful and honest with FA....
As stated before, friends don't fuck with friends over a chick...EOS. WOmen come and go but friends are supposed to be forever.
I guess that's why I don't understand these vids of college guys doing shit to each other. For eg: hitting your bud with a 2 x 4 when he comes in a room, kicking him in the nuts when he's down....etc. That shit just ain't right, just like this scenario just ain't right.
Then bless you that you haven't...
...because while I went over the top a bit, every women...EVERY WOMAN...i have ever know will tell you that her ex's are off limits to her GFs, as is any guy she thinks she might be interested in.
Hell, the 2nd point appears to be no different than what tboy is maintaining now...
WhaWhaWha said:
...because while I went over the top a bit, every women...EVERY WOMAN...i have ever know will tell you that her ex's are off limits to her GFs, as is any guy she thinks she might be interested in.
Hell, the 2nd point appears to be no different than what tboy is maintaining now...
You still haven't explained...
...why I should step aside when you want to do the same thing I want to do?
"I think what it boils down to is perspective: if all you're interested in is another notch on your bedpost, then that's one thing but if you are FB, and think you might have something special, then FB should have grown some stones and been truthful and honest with FA...."
We agree to SOME DEGREE on this, but I still maintain FB doesn't owe FA details of his sex life...especially since FA didn't have the balls to say he was digging her. You mean you've never been in a fuck relationship you weren't at liberty to talk about?
Had FA come to FB and said "I am into Jenna...are you banging her?" FB ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY should speak up. But what was posted here...shit, if somebody comes to me and ask me if I am fucking some chick in my office I am denying that shit...period..even if it is "friend" (which I am beginning to question here). I am not going to bother with trying to figure out why I am being asked...I am going to do the ADULT thing and keep that shit on the D/L as much and as long as possible.
As stated before, friends don't fuck with friends over a chick...EOS. WOmen come and go but friends are supposed to be forever.
My persepctive is different...you say "friends don't fuck friends over a chick". I say "friends don't let a chick come between them". Your way says I am supposed to figure out what it is you want and set aside what I want. My way says it doesn't matter what ends up happening, we are tight enough that a piece of ass isn't going to be what kills our friendship. I fuck her, you are happy for me...you fuck her, I am happy for you. Again...if somebody is thinking they are serious about this female, that is different...but two guys meet the same female at the same time? She is just a BABE at that point, and only a fool lame ass "falls in love" inside of an hour / day / week. Women come and go as you say, so if I hit pay dirt before you...move on to the next one. Or better still....keep going so maybe we can share!! Just think of the stories that will make (j/k).
"I guess that's why I don't understand these vids of college guys doing shit to each other. For eg: hitting your bud with a 2 x 4 when he comes in a room, kicking him in the nuts when he's down....etc. That shit just ain't right, just like this scenario just ain't right"
If you think these things are comparable, then you are right - we don't agree and we won't.
My friendships with my best male friends supercede chicks. Not wives...but chicks?? Who cares which of us scores?? Yah for you if you do, yah for me if I do. I dont' need my friends to lay down for me, and I wouldn't ask them to...if she is digging HIM more, then like "Rubmeister" said...no pussy should go wasted.
What sense does it make for him to pass her up when she is into him, just because "I saw her first" or whatever your rule is supposed to be...then we both miss out?
Someone said that I hate women. This to me is exactly the opposite - I would expect a grown ass woman to be able to decide for herself who she wants to hook up with. Why should me and you be deciding that for her?
NOTE: I am refering to a scneario like one in the orginal post...and somewhat like the one you laid out with your bartender friend. Now, if we both walk into a bar, spot the same babe...we cn't both go after her. That will send us both home alone. This you should discuss and kinda get a feel after some convo which way she is leaning...and the other guy should bow out. I agree.
tboy said:
...why I should step aside when you want to do the same thing I want to do?
"I think what it boils down to is perspective: if all you're interested in is another notch on your bedpost, then that's one thing but if you are FB, and think you might have something special, then FB should have grown some stones and been truthful and honest with FA...."
We agree to SOME DEGREE on this, but I still maintain FB doesn't owe FA details of his sex life...especially since FA didn't have the balls to say he was digging her. You mean you've never been in a fuck relationship you weren't at liberty to talk about?
Had FA come to FB and said "I am into Jenna...are you banging her?" FB ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY should speak up. But what was posted here...shit, if somebody comes to me and ask me if I am fucking some chick in my office I am denying that shit...period..even if it is "friend" (which I am beginning to question here). I am not going to bother with trying to figure out why I am being asked...I am going to do the ADULT thing and keep that shit on the D/L as much and as long as possible.
As stated before, friends don't fuck with friends over a chick...EOS. WOmen come and go but friends are supposed to be forever.
My persepctive is different...you say "friends don't fuck friends over a chick". I say "friends don't let a chick come between them". Your way says I am supposed to figure out what it is you want and set aside what I want. My way says it doesn't matter what ends up happening, we are tight enough that a piece of ass isn't going to be what kills our friendship. I fuck her, you are happy for me...you fuck her, I am happy for you. Again...if somebody is thinking they are serious about this female, that is different...but two guys meet the same female at the same time? She is just a BABE at that point, and only a fool lame ass "falls in love" inside of an hour / day / week. Women come and go as you say, so if I hit pay dirt before you...move on to the next one. Or better still....keep going so maybe we can share!! Just think of the stories that will make (j/k).
"I guess that's why I don't understand these vids of college guys doing shit to each other. For eg: hitting your bud with a 2 x 4 when he comes in a room, kicking him in the nuts when he's down....etc. That shit just ain't right, just like this scenario just ain't right"
If you think these things are comparable, then you are right - we don't agree and we won't.
My friendships with my best male friends supercede chicks. Not wives...but chicks?? Who cares which of us scores?? Yah for you if you do, yah for me if I do. I dont' need my friends to lay down for me, and I wouldn't ask them to...if she is digging HIM more, then like "Rubmeister" said...no pussy should go wasted.
What sense does it make for him to pass her up when she is into him, just because "I saw her first" or whatever your rule is supposed to be...then we both miss out?
Someone said that I hate women. This to me is exactly the opposite - I would expect a grown ass woman to be able to decide for herself who she wants to hook up with. Why should me and you be deciding that for her?
NOTE: I am refering to a scneario like one in the orginal post...and somewhat like the one you laid out with your bartender friend. Now, if we both walk into a bar, spot the same babe...we cn't both go after her. That will send us both home alone. This you should discuss and kinda get a feel after some convo which way she is leaning...and the other guy should bow out. I agree.
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Jade4u
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If I had a GF that was interested in an ex of mine I obviously would tell her of the problems that I had with him but the bottom line is the choice is hers if she wants to go with him or not. I think all I owe her is a warning, but I also think all people are different and what may not have worked for me may work for her. As they say there is someone for everyone, but obviously I would not see my friend in the presence of my ex and that would be my choice. Bottom line I do not think anyone owns anyone.
If I interpreted this correctly, friend A sounded like a stand-up guy by first asking whether there was something going on between friend B and woman A. By asking this, I would assume that friend A would step aside if friend B had admitted to being "interested" in woman A. I assume this, because I would step aside if I were in that situation.....afterall, he is a buddy.
As for friend B, I think he was completely wrong in pursuing woman A behind friend A's back. True buds do not screw eachother.......he obviously does not know what friendship is. Even if he was interested in woman A, friend B should have stepped aside knowing that friend A was interested......at the abolute worst, he should have admitted to friend A of his intentions.
As for friend B, I think he was completely wrong in pursuing woman A behind friend A's back. True buds do not screw eachother.......he obviously does not know what friendship is. Even if he was interested in woman A, friend B should have stepped aside knowing that friend A was interested......at the abolute worst, he should have admitted to friend A of his intentions.
Ladysman, I couldn't have said it better myself.
Mlam, you saying that no chick should come between friends...my point exactly. B should have either passed on this one and or been honest with A about his intentions.
Frankly from the sounds of it, you CAN'T pass up a chick. If that is the case, then dude, get some help, really. ....It's not like this is the last woman on earth and if anyone passes on her then they will never get laid again...Hell, that's the difference between 20 somethings and us greyballs: Us greyballs KNOW we will get laid again, where 20 somethings think every pussy is the last they will ever have.......
Mlam, you saying that no chick should come between friends...my point exactly. B should have either passed on this one and or been honest with A about his intentions.
Frankly from the sounds of it, you CAN'T pass up a chick. If that is the case, then dude, get some help, really. ....It's not like this is the last woman on earth and if anyone passes on her then they will never get laid again...Hell, that's the difference between 20 somethings and us greyballs: Us greyballs KNOW we will get laid again, where 20 somethings think every pussy is the last they will ever have.......
stacey4u2luv said:
I agree with this. Friend B might not have said anything at first because he may not have made a big deal over something that might not have been. I think Friend A though had feelings about Woman A, would have appreciated to have known that Friend B did go out with Woman A.
Conclusion: Friend B should've said that he went out with Woman A, even if it was just for drinks.
BTW your poll question is a little ambigious with not defined question, I think I just voted for Bush.
And you still haven't explained...
...why YOU can't pass on her, but like I said (or implied) to each their own....
Not that it matters...I'm not on the market anyway....just saying how it worked when I was. And none of us got our panties all in a bunch about it.
BTW - we agree that FB should have told FA he planned to bang the chick...I just don't think it is a crime that he didn't, since I don't now the reasons why he did not...ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that FA wasn't man enough to even say he was emotional attached to the smell of her farts...
Anyway...it doesn't matter. To each their own...you guys live by your rules, and I am content to know I have lived by mine.
tboy said:
...why YOU can't pass on her, but like I said (or implied) to each their own....
Not that it matters...I'm not on the market anyway....just saying how it worked when I was. And none of us got our panties all in a bunch about it.
BTW - we agree that FB should have told FA he planned to bang the chick...I just don't think it is a crime that he didn't, since I don't now the reasons why he did not...ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that FA wasn't man enough to even say he was emotional attached to the smell of her farts...
Anyway...it doesn't matter. To each their own...you guys live by your rules, and I am content to know I have lived by mine.
Complicated thread. Cant understand it al after a few beers. Will however echo the "can't make old friends" lesson. I had a friend who on numerous occasions used to cock block me something severe. Fusking pissed me off. He'd hang out hours beyond his welcome, when it was just me and him and my potential hot chick. Never bloody well understood. Still don't. However he's still one of my best bud's, and we've been friends for 25yrs. As for those chicks, no idea what happened to them .
Cock Blocking....now that...
...is some wrong shit.
True story....some 20 years ago (at least...I know I hadn't married wife #1 yet, and I am pretty sure I was still in college) my best bud (at the time and to this day) and I are walking through the lower level of Lord & Taylor @ Water Tower Place in Chicago. I am walking, minding my own business when this BABE calls me over from behind a perfume counter. And I mean CALLS ME...she wasn't a pefume girl standing in the aisle, and at the time we were making a (walking) bee line out the door, so she made an effort to get my attention.
I go over to her, and she is clearly flirting...not lewd in anyway, but flirting. And I can tell she is a bit nervous. I can't believe my luck...this TOTAL BABE is hitting on me. And beyond the usual reasons why I can't believe I am this lucky, add to that the fact that she is probably like 25 - 30 yers old, and I am (if I recall) 20 or 21. (I'm a big guy, and even back then I never really dressed like a "kid"....always polo shirts and dockers or whatever...plus I've had a full mustache since 8th grade, so she might have thought I was older).
Anyway...she talking, I'm talking (or trying to anyway), but my bud...he keeps making stupid ass fucking immature wisecracks and jokes. She keeps looking at him..trying to figure out what his deal is. Me, I'm shooting him dirty looks, jabing him in the ribs, everything. He keeps going. Finally, I grab him by the arm, walk him like 10 feet away and tell him to STFU and stand right there until I come back to get him. He gives me a "what did I do?" expression, I shake my head and go back to the counter...but by this time the babe has decided to move to the other side of the counter and stare into the main lobby...
To this day I remember that shit....and the only explanantion I can come up with (because the only one he dumb ass offered at the time was "I didn't know...I was just fucking with you") is he just could not stand to see me scoring with a babe who took interest in me versus him. My friend is one pretty motherfucker...women love his ass...and then did back then as well. But this chick was coming on to ME.
I think I'll ask him about this shit again when he is up here this weekend....it will make for good drunken stoopor reliving old times conversation....
massman said:
...is some wrong shit.
True story....some 20 years ago (at least...I know I hadn't married wife #1 yet, and I am pretty sure I was still in college) my best bud (at the time and to this day) and I are walking through the lower level of Lord & Taylor @ Water Tower Place in Chicago. I am walking, minding my own business when this BABE calls me over from behind a perfume counter. And I mean CALLS ME...she wasn't a pefume girl standing in the aisle, and at the time we were making a (walking) bee line out the door, so she made an effort to get my attention.
I go over to her, and she is clearly flirting...not lewd in anyway, but flirting. And I can tell she is a bit nervous. I can't believe my luck...this TOTAL BABE is hitting on me. And beyond the usual reasons why I can't believe I am this lucky, add to that the fact that she is probably like 25 - 30 yers old, and I am (if I recall) 20 or 21. (I'm a big guy, and even back then I never really dressed like a "kid"....always polo shirts and dockers or whatever...plus I've had a full mustache since 8th grade, so she might have thought I was older).
Anyway...she talking, I'm talking (or trying to anyway), but my bud...he keeps making stupid ass fucking immature wisecracks and jokes. She keeps looking at him..trying to figure out what his deal is. Me, I'm shooting him dirty looks, jabing him in the ribs, everything. He keeps going. Finally, I grab him by the arm, walk him like 10 feet away and tell him to STFU and stand right there until I come back to get him. He gives me a "what did I do?" expression, I shake my head and go back to the counter...but by this time the babe has decided to move to the other side of the counter and stare into the main lobby...
To this day I remember that shit....and the only explanantion I can come up with (because the only one he dumb ass offered at the time was "I didn't know...I was just fucking with you") is he just could not stand to see me scoring with a babe who took interest in me versus him. My friend is one pretty motherfucker...women love his ass...and then did back then as well. But this chick was coming on to ME.
I think I'll ask him about this shit again when he is up here this weekend....it will make for good drunken stoopor reliving old times conversation....
thanks for all the input folks. Wierd that you can always get the brutal truth on an internet message board.
MLAM you nearly hit the nail on the head. Friend A lacked game and messed up his chance with the girl. B knew about A's interest in girl. In fact B was who A went to, to help fix his game. As anyone would be A was upset at losing the girl, my view is simply that if you tell the truth and someone freaks over it. Then at least you have recourse that you've been honest, am I right? Lying disrespects the person you're lying to, and ruins your rep.
I don't know if this has made the thread/topic/issue more or less ambiguous.
MLAM you nearly hit the nail on the head. Friend A lacked game and messed up his chance with the girl. B knew about A's interest in girl. In fact B was who A went to, to help fix his game. As anyone would be A was upset at losing the girl, my view is simply that if you tell the truth and someone freaks over it. Then at least you have recourse that you've been honest, am I right? Lying disrespects the person you're lying to, and ruins your rep.
I don't know if this has made the thread/topic/issue more or less ambiguous.
