Green Lawns

Rockslinger

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Watching a CBC program on green lawns. We waste enough manpower and other resources (especially precious water) on our green lawns to feed a couple of 3rd world countries. We pump enough poison into our lawns to kill all the pigeons and raccoons on Earth.:(
 
Apparently it doesn't bother the raccoons and pigeons.
 
Sukdeep said:
It may be the only thing that Miller hasn't totally blown; the ban on herbicides in Toronto is probably a good thing.

Did you see the city parks just covered in dandelions?

Rockslinger said:
Watching a CBC program on green lawns. We waste enough manpower and other resources (especially precious water) on our green lawns to feed a couple of 3rd world countries. We pump enough poison into our lawns to kill all the pigeons and raccoons on Earth.


Rockslinger...you've been listening to David Suzuki for too long. :p
 
Sukdeep said:
When was this documentary made?

I think it is recent. Vegas is running out of water because the underground reserviors are almost depleted. However, never underestimate the power of the "Green Lawn" lobby. North America is such a wasteful society. We waste everything.:(
 
Rockslinger said:
Watching a CBC program on green lawns. We waste enough manpower and other resources (especially precious water) on our green lawns to feed a couple of 3rd world countries. We pump enough poison into our lawns to kill all the pigeons and raccoons on Earth.(


I drive a pick up with a Hemi, try to water my lawn every day at least an hour, have spotlights shine on it at least 2 hours past dusk and bought a boat load of herbicidess and pesticides - result prisitine lawn, no pigeons insight and raccooon stay away...

Down side I have to use my lawn tractor to cut the grass once a week :D
 
Rockslinger said:
Watching a CBC program on green lawns. We waste enough manpower and other resources (especially precious water) on our green lawns to feed a couple of 3rd world countries. We pump enough poison into our lawns to kill all the pigeons and raccoons on Earth.:(

You could of course adopt the lawn maintenance rituals of the chinese and east indians who live in Markham...just let it grow all summer until it is about 18" high, let the snow cover it in mid-november and then start all over again in April. I am surrounded by pakistanis who rarely cut their lawns. My immediate neighbour cut his for the first time this past week (ie. mid -June)and that is only because his Montissori trained terrorist kids could not find their toys in the grass.
 
Sukdeep said:
Dandelions, ragweed and clovers are also "indigenous" plant life.

Perhaps but so are grasses and allowing weeds to take over completely still doesn't make sense. Dandelions and other broadleaf weeds do present a problem on sports fields. As the weeds squeeze out the grass the playing surface becomes slippery especially when damp. Ask any soccer player what he would prefer to play on and grass is preferred 100% over weeds.

I am stocked up on Killex. I have enough to last me several years if I use it carefully. I simply "paint" a little bit on each weed as I see them emerge. I fertilize my lawn with the pre-mixed spray doing so once in early May, end of June and July. I cut the grass once per week and I go both ways each week. cutting it one way only does not "cut" it for me. I go over it a 2nd time perpendicular to the first cut. All clippings are left on the lawn.

If I had a lawn larger than townhouse size I would buy a bag of Urea...usually it is 46-0-0 or 38-0-0...pure nitrogen = instant greening. I cut it with a regular fertilizer as urea can burn very easily. (when used on golf greens they water it in for 20 minutes right away) I found that a 30% urea to 70% President Choice Once a Year mix was great. Any leftover urea at the end of the summer gets used to melt ice in the winter.
 
Rockslinger said:
Watching a CBC program on green lawns. We waste enough manpower and other resources (especially precious water) on our green lawns to feed a couple of 3rd world countries. We pump enough poison into our lawns to kill all the pigeons and raccoons on Earth.:(

Just wondering what happens to the water r you waste on your lawn ? Where does it dissappear to?
 
Compromised said:
Then why are there pigeons still shitting on my balcony?
Cuse you don't have grass:D
 
sailorsix said:
You could of course adopt the lawn maintenance rituals of the chinese and east indians who live in Markham...

On the other hand, I have neighbours who religiously water their lawns and sidewalks at least twice a day. Obviously, these folks are not on metered water or they have money to burn. PURIFIED WATER IS NOT FREE!:(
 
I have a bb gun that I use to shoot the raccoons that come into my back yard. Unfortunately the bb stings the raccoon but doesn't do any real damange. I've had to get mothballs and "Critter Ridder" and spread that in my backyard just to keep them out.

Now, other smaller creatures aren't as bad.

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There are alternatives to a manicured green lawn.
1) Some of my neighbours create a "natural garden".
2) Some of my neighbours lay down mulch (check spelling) which still allows rain water to drain into the soil.
3) Back in the old days, people grew food in their gardens. Do you know why Cabbagetown is called Cabbagetown? I wouldn't want to eat food grown in to-day's garden because of all the poison sprayed on that soil (and children play on it) over the years.
4) Some of my neighbours collect rainwater in a barrel and use that to water their lawns. PURIFIED WATER IS PRECIOUS AND NOT FREE.
 
Water is free. We have a whole lakeful.

A uniform, deep green lawn is a sign of a free society. People who try to put rules on my god-given right to use water, pesticides and fertilizer are communists. And terrorists. Who hate freedom.
 
The modern urban lawn is a somewhat pathetic attempt to mimic the lawns of English aristocracy, which Capability Brown invented in the XVIIIthC and which quickly caught on as trendy status symbols of conspicuous consumption for the rich.

We plebs have had to invent gas-guzzling, stinking, noisy machines and noxious chemical poisons to do what rich Brits had hordes of peasants and flocks or ornammental sheep do for them: maintain a pretty greensward, weed free and at uniform length, that's absolutely useless.

Beyond what you need for a bit of barefoot pleasure, and the kids need for roughousing, your lawn is likely—from what guys have been posting here—too much trouble, even with honkin' mowers and toxic compounds to help you along.

Get rid of all but the minimum of grass. Mowing it twice a week in the two growing seasons (you do know when those are, don't you?), and once a week or less in summer with a push mower will be less work than pleasant exercise, and that and plucking the yellow tops will keep the dandelions from seeding quite effectively.

There's lots of other groundcovers and native plants—even a vegetable garden—that take less care and won't look as misconceived and mismanaged as a badly-kept lawn.
 
Rockslinger said:
There are alternatives to a manicured green lawn.

4) Some of my neighbours collect rainwater in a barrel and use that to water their lawns. PURIFIED WATER IS PRECIOUS AND NOT FREE.

With the shitty spring has anyone had to water their lawn this year?
 
oldjones said:
We plebs have had to invent gas-guzzling, stinking, noisy machines and noxious chemical poisons to do what rich Brits had hordes of peasants and flocks or ornammental sheep do for them: maintain a pretty greensward, weed free and at uniform length, that's absolutely useless.

I don't often agree with oldjones (just how old are you?) but this is an excellent example of an intelligent and rational post. A real rarity on TERB.