Grammar

pepsiman said:
English is my first and only language
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Then wow... you need to work on it.

pepsiman said:
I just think people make too big an issue out of small stuff.
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Language is the main thing that separates humans from animals.

It is basic manners to ensure what you write is easily understood by others. If you can't or don't do that, expect criticism.
 
Joy said:
I was under the impression that everyone on terb were animals...
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Very good, but some are under the illusion that they are not because they know how to spell........
 
Joy said:
I was under the impression that everyone on terb were animals...
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Hmmm this reminds me of the scene in Elephant Man where Joh Merrick moans out "I AM NOT AN ANIMAL"....lol....

Bridgeman said:
I really do not believe that it is a matter of review credibility that is in question. I'm sure that the experiences detailed are reasonably accurate as described.

What is in question is: why is it that some of the postings on this board reflect the grammatical knowledge of a child?

It is reasonable to assume that most of the Terbites are at least 18 years old. Even if they weren't born in Canada, most have a fundamental knowledge of the English language. Spell-check does half your corrections as well anyway. I'm sure most people must read/check what they just wrote before they submit their replies.

It comes down to personal integrity. Seeing that correct grammar is a direct reflection of your sense (not level) of education.

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It's simple little things that you would affectionately correct in a child so that they may learn the language properly. There should be no need to point it out to an adult. I see it often at work as well. Not surprising but unfortunately constant.
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Bridgeman said it perfectly.

I find it is also a reflection on the writer. Tell me Pepsiman: would you go into the office with the pocket torn on your shirt? Food stains on your tie? or go to a black tie dinner in jeans and a T shirt? Do you walk around with a booger hanging out of your nose?

How one writes and composes/spells their posts IS a direct reflection on them. Since this is a board specific to the written word and that's the only "real" way we have of knowing someone, it is very important as it is an indicator of who the poster is.

Frankly, if the poster is too lazy to spell check, or use proper puncuation and grammar, then what do I care about what he's writing? He doesn't care enough to properly get his idea across.......I mean, it takes 2 seconds to spell check......

Here's an application that works great for terb but isn't limited to internet explorer. It works just about anywhere you type in a word on your pc....

http://www.iespell.com/
 
alex52 said:
The ability to express yourself through the written word is a essential skill, and says lot about you as a person. Especially your level of education.
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I would say that it goes beyond the level of education since most of the garble on here is written in such a way that a six year old could understand.

It also says a lot about the writer's character, attention to detail and general personality in much the same way that someone's attention to their wardrobe does. Sloppy writing is sort of the equivalent of scuffed shoes!

The written language is under a lot of pressure these days and will likely "devolve" over time. I doubt that the world will come to an end as a result, but having the ability to express a thought clearly is never a bad thing!

Just my opinion of course... :rolleyes:
 
I agree with most everyone here that proper grammar and syntax is important.

That being said, my experience of the online world is that people often use poor grammar/syntax as ad hominem attacks on a poster or as a way to discredit whatever the poster wrote. Someone who agrees with a poster will rarely point out their poor grammar/syntax. And those who will point out poor grammar/syntax rarely have anything more substantive to add to the discussion/argument than "you can't even spell, stupid".

And for those of you who still equate proper written english with education -- which sounds like a fairly reasonable assumption -- I'm afraid you'd cry reading an essay written by your average 4th year undergrad student in social science/humanities. Yes, it is that bad. And the sad part is that most of them are not ESL students.
 
A simple sentence

It also says a lot about the writer's character, attention to detail and general personality in much the same way that someone's attention to their wardrobe does. Sloppy writing is sort of the equivalent of scuffed shoes!

Very well said. In the same sense, bad grammar (wether written or spoken) is the equivalent of an incomplete process. Would you wear only one sock or one shoe? Would you only shave HALF your face? Comb only one side of your head? Read only half of a letter? Present only half a resume?

Bad grammar is the equivalent of these acts.

A badly written, incomplete sentence is the equivalent of a half-shaved face.

It looks absurd and there is no reason for it in an adult. Furthermore, it is a direct reflection of the person's sense of education and presentation.

If you're going to start a sentence, then finish it correctly.
 
tboy said:
Bridgeman said it perfectly.

I find it is also a reflection on the writer. Tell me Pepsiman: would you go into the office with the pocket torn on your shirt? Food stains on your tie? or go to a black tie dinner in jeans and a T shirt? Do you walk around with a booger hanging out of your nose?

How one writes and composes/spells their posts IS a direct reflection on them. Since this is a board specific to the written word and that's the only "real" way we have of knowing someone, it is very important as it is an indicator of who the poster is.

Frankly, if the poster is too lazy to spell check, or use proper puncuation and grammar, then what do I care about what he's writing? He doesn't care enough to properly get his idea across.......I mean, it takes 2 seconds to spell check......

Here's an application that works great for terb but isn't limited to internet explorer. It works just about anywhere you type in a word on your pc....
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Holy shit - stop the presses! I agree 100% with tboy! (Is that one of the signs of the Apocalypse?) :D

(Of course, the content of what someone writes is also a greater reflection of the person as well...)
 
Captain Fantastic said:
Holy shit - stop the presses! I agree 100% with tboy! (Is that one of the signs of the Apocalypse?) :D

(Of course, the content of what someone writes is also a greater reflection of the person as well...)
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LOL just like that one time I agreed with Fuji, I try not to make a habit of it lol

Yes, content is important but not any more than how that content is provided.

I equate writing to producing a business plan for a bank to examine while applying for some start up capital. If you simply write: I'se gonna make a lotta moolah....you won't get the loan. But if you write a clear, concise, accurate and well laid out business plan, even if you're full of crap, you will probably get the loan........

What's that saying? Dazzle them with brilliance or baffle them with bull?
 
mmouse said:
Then wow... you need to work on it.



Language is the main thing that separates humans from animals.

It is basic manners to ensure what you write is easily understood by others. If you can't or don't do that, expect criticism.
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I am sure I could improve and work on a lot of stuff in life :)))
But I highly doubt you can tell me anything my father has not already said/
And I left my feelings at home in the fridge so I doubt you could hurt those either.
I am highly respected in my line of work :; And being able too spell is not one of the biggest requirements to accomplish the task at hand . Unless I make a mistake and then an accident report has too be filled out. In some cases I am handling upwards of 30 tonnes so a mistake there is way more life changing than making a "splelling" mistake on terb LOL
I do believe a fellow worker may be a terbite too . But he has never questioned my spelling at work anyway .
On here maybe he has :???
 
You're alright, if you can take constructive criticism, with a sense of humour, and without taking it personally.

Just keep in mind that spell-check can't tell the difference between to and too hence mistakes such as this:
pepsiman said:
And being able too spell is not one of the biggest requirements to accomplish the task at hand . Unless I make a mistake and then an accident report has too be filled out.
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All we need now is a program that corrects grammar, and verb conjugation, and we'll be laughing ;)
 
snowleopard said:
All we need now is a program that corrects grammar, and verb conjugation, and we'll be laughing ;)
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Wow! The scary thing is that I'm sure we'll actually see something like this in the VERY near future!
 
Shades said:
No thanks, will keep my opposable thumbs...don't want to dispose of them :eek:
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That was a set-up line to see if i could finger GB to give a hand in this thread. I guess he is leaving the wrist of the puns up to me, fully armed and dangerous.




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