Goodbye Porkchops

[Mr. Lucky]

Bye Bye , Portugal!!!!!!!!

Let me guess your a WOP?


Believe me if it was Portugal & Italy
Portugal would win.


and the world cup final should be Germany and Portugal.

Most people could care less about this years world cup final

 

[SPQR]

Let me guess your a WOP?

Normally I, as a person of that heritage, would be really offended by that remark, but since one of my compatriats started the thread with one of his own, I understand.

But I hope we can discuss this without resorting to ethnic slurs.

Believe me if it was Portugal & Italy Portugal would win.

Only because the students would have beaten the master in fake fouls and diving.

Guess we'll never know. But people said the same thing about Germany over Italy. The ball is round and not square. The variables are endless.

and the world cup final should be Germany and Portugal.

No it shouldn't Italy played the better game. Its sad tha Germany was consistently strong and Italy was building momentum, but Italy

Most people could care less about this years world cup final

Maybe here. Even then I doubt it. Well, we will all be able to see if that's true when the stats come out.

 

[Esco!]

Let me guess your a WOP?

Not even close, I'm English

Believe me if it was Portugal & Italy
Portugal would win.

Maybe if the Ref fell for all your dives

and the world cup final should be Germany and Portugal.

Should have, could have, might have, ought to have

Most people could care less about this years world cup final

I think 1 Billion people will prove you wrong sunday

 

[Benhur]

Let me guess your a WOP?


Believe me if it was Portugal & Italy
Portugal would win.

and the world cup final should be Germany and Portugal.

Most people could care less about this years world cup final

Why?......
1) the italian team is superior to the portuguese team...and no, I'm not italian....
2) Germany did not hit the the goal post and the cross-bar, did they?...Italy has a better team and proved it in one of the great classic matches of World Cup history.
3) Portugal, while they had a better first round than France, did not show up for the semi-final, last time I checked the game was played on the field not in statistics.
4) Most people?......wait, a final between 2 countries considered football giants, 58 Million italians and 61 Million french I guess don't count right? ....Most people?... I guess that's you right?.......learn to lose with class, you'll be happier.

 

[Hard Idle]

No one should be knocking the Portugese keeper Ricardo... the guy was brilliant in this tournament....
......

Agreed. I don't konw if I'd say brilliant, but this was the best goaltending Portugal has had in very long time.

 

[Hard Idle]

and that is often alot. Happens alot in South America. Peter used to do it alot for ManU. Alot is relative

Schmeichel has one international goal - I can't remember if he scored it in WC'98 when he moved up to take a couple of free kicks in one of the games.

Former Mexican keeper Campos would join the attack very often, sometimes took free kicks and was also a regular penalty taker. I don't have his stats but I'm sure he has some goals.

Same goes for Rene Higuita of Colombia, he has 3 goals in some 70 international caps - better than most centre backs!

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[luckyjackson]

So you are allowed to trip players in the box? Carvalho tripped Henry, he embelished it, but it would have still been called regardless, Henry isn't going to flop if he can stay on his feet and put that ball in...I dont know if you watched that youtube clip or not, but I entirely agree with that panel, Portuguese club teams are dive-tastic. Case in point, Porto vs Lazio and Celtic the year they won the UEFA Cup, that was a dive fest.

I said tripping anywhere was allowed? C'mon, be serious. My point was, as you acknowledged, that Henry felt the contact, and went down of his own accord. Do you think all contact is called as a foul? Please. If Henry had not gone down the play would've continued. Simple as that.

As for Portugal being bigger cheats than the next team, that is the contention of know nothings. I write off such opinions to nothing but bigotry and jealousy, because no other explanation makes sense. Portugal has been no worse, and better than lots of other teams over the long haul, and even in this tournament they have not been especially bad, if you discount the ridiculous ref that officiated the game against Holland.

 

[the_big_E]

bottom line, Portugal has peaked, this team will never go any further in major tournaments until they develop some proven strikers, they have a nice midfield but no one to give the ball too!

 

[David Beckham 23]

I seriously can't remember, but wasn't it Carvalho who tackled Rooney causing him to break his foot?

 

[the_big_E]

it was Paulo Ferriera

 

[David Beckham 23]

it was Paulo Ferriera

Thanks. My mistake.

 

[luckyjackson]

to reply to those who merit it...

Andrade broke Rooney's foot, accidentally, in 2004. And as big E said, Ferriera launched the clean tackle that Rooney fell over and subsequently broke his foot on months before the tournament. I guess it's easy to see where some less educated types could see a conspriracy.

bottom line...

the work to clone Eusebio is beginning as we speak...by the way, I take it you agree with my comments regarding Henry and cheating, as you haven't bothered to counter.

Here's something interesting for those of you so obsessed with diving etc.

http://www.informationbuilders.co.uk/ontheball/wcuk.htm

It may not be the sort of thing that players will want to frame and give to their Mums, but Paraguay has been judged to have been the champions of an alternative to FIFA’s Fair Play: the Unfair Play Award.

The news comes from software company British office of Information Builders (IBI), the verdict being reached through a series of weighted indicators that included the following variables beloved by amoral players: dives, feigned injuries, referee intimidation, tantrums and inability or lack of desire to sing national anthems.

With all thirty-two squads having been followed, the champions of each category are;

Dives: Italy (32)
Tantrums: France (28)
Feigned Injury: Paraguay (12)
Anthem Silence: Serbia and Montenegro (31).

There was stiff competition for the referee bullying award; Croatia, France, Italy and Portugal all having shunted various officials back with extreme invasions of personal space five times apiece, although Croatia are strictly winners as they managed all five incidents in only three matches

Information Builders have baptised their ratings as the ‘IBI Foul Play Index’ and Paraguay can hold their heads high/low leaving Germany with an index of 45, closely followed by finalists Italy (40) with Holland, the Ivory Coast and Portugal all with 37.

Trinidad and Tobago get a pat on the back for being the best behaved team in the tournament, with a mere 14; a paltry four dives, three tantrums, two faked injuries and only three players not booming out the national anthem. Brazil, Costa Rica and Sweden were all good boys with 15.

On the nationalistic lungful side, Angola, Argentina, Brazil, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Mexico, Saudi Arabia and Spain all scored perfect marks with each and every player – regardless of how cat-matingly off-key the voices were – giving their larynxes a workout for the homeland.

Going on statistical extrapolation from what’s been recorded so far, Sunday’s final between France and Italy should see the Azzurri on flying form and Les Bleus providing the obstreperous Gallic fits to go along.

 

[SPQR]

Most people could care less about this years world cup final

Early statistics are that over 300 millions people will be watching the World Cup final. Average has been 98 million per game.

If these stats remain true it will be the most watch sporting event of the millenium.

 

[Mr. Lucky]

Well yes of course millions are going to watch the cup final

but they could care less!

 

[Cobster]

Why 'cause Portugone, is gone?

 

[Mr. Lucky]

no because there is no naked chick running down the field

 

[SPQR]

That would mean that 300 million peopl have nothing else better to do. Prety sad.

In all seriousness, If your team wasn't playing, no matter what country you're from your vested interest on the outcome would be obviously diminished. But the fact you still want to watch says the interest is still there.

 

[Cobster]

Sorry for not commenting yesterday, but I was in no mood to post, or eat, or breathe.

Congrats to France, they were the better team yesterday. Though he needed no confirmation, Zidane proved once and for all that he is one of the greatest players of all time. We entered knowing we needed to shut him down, and succeeded for maybe the first 15-20 minutes, after that he asserted control. And it was Deco who was shut down.

The goal killed the game, because lord help us, but with Pauleta, we need to create 100 chances in order to get a goal, and the boys only seemed able to come up with 99. Thank god he won't see another major tournament. Now if only we could clone Eusebio.

Ronaldo played an excellent game.

I can't say I'm surprised to see that in all this talk about diving, no one has mentioned the most effective dive of the game. Henry's. Not that I blame the Frenchman, anyone would've done it, he was just better at it than our players.

I don't deny that Portuguese, and in fact southern European players, dive more than their northern counterparts. I'd like to see it lessened myself, but I understand why it happens. The answer is not to penalize only diving, but to also penalize the kind of impeding fouls that get in the way of a flowing skill-based game. It's analagous to the "if Gretzky were playing today" argument.

Diving is not only an attempt to gain obvious direct advantage through free kicks etc, it's also an attempt set the tone of the game. Players know that if they have a ref who is fooled by dives, there's a good chance their opponent will back off from rough contact. But that kind of game is not in the interest of teams like England or Germany - because their skills suck.

Those of you who are so quick to lambaste Portugal for diving should consider that Figo has been the most consistently fouled player wherever he goes. Same is mostly true for Ronaldo and Deco. You either believe these guys have consistently fooled a variety of refs over the course of their careers, or you admit that they are indeed fouled because opponents know their too dangerous to be allowed to play. It's the other side of the coin.

English hypocrisy, or to be fair English media's hypocrisy has been incredible this week. Desperate to divert attention from the real reasons for England's trip home, they've made absolute asses of themselves with an open and unrestrained show of bigotry towards Portugal. I admit I'm secretly pleased that they're hurting so bad after their successive defeats that they're reduced to this. We'll be sure to send 'em home again soon to compound their repressed self-loathing. Fair play and sportsmanship indeed.

As I said in some other thread, I couldn't be prouder of how we performed in this tournament. We came within a hair's breadth of being in the final.

Forca Portugal.

Bro....WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING, seriously...or what are mixing your Sumol with???

...wake up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QSHB-AQZ1E

 

[Lustology]

At least they made it to the final four. Where were the great brazil, argentina, holland, england.

Oh wait i almost forgot Portugal raped holland and england LMAO!!!!

Hate on portugal they played well a long side the great C.Ronaldo. Wow he's awesome.

 

[Smash]

I'm calling it the "Dive Cup" from now on. He who dives the best wins