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WyattEarp

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This sounds like I'm trying to be funny, but I'm pretty sure my doctor sticks his finger up my ass for the money. We get along fine regardless and I would never stop seeing him.
 

yomero5

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This sounds like I'm trying to be funny, but I'm pretty sure my doctor sticks his finger up my ass for the money. We get along fine regardless and I would never stop seeing him.
My doctor won't stick his finger up my ass because I'm a "withered fossil with one foot in the grave", so I have to do the PSA test instead. I would prefer his finger but don't want to push his boundaries.
 

rigel

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In my experience I find it's better to evaluate individuals on a case by case basis. I hate painting people with the same brush. Regarding that doctor comment I'm guessing their are more than a few that enjoy it regardless of whether they get paid or not. :)

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jcpro

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There is a good segment of girls that consider johns as complete losers, regardless of how much money they spend on them. That's just the way it is. They will slave for a pimp, but consider a guy paying for it less of a man. It's the power thing and it's mostly reinforced by the low self esteem men who put a paid pussy on a pedestal by confusing pay for play with relationship.
 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
Perhaps the girl was in a bad mood, but she told me
that all the girls curse their clients behind their backs and hate
their job.
You couldn't possibly be one of those clients she and
her peers curse and hate. I can only surmise that it is a ploy to
make you feel like you are different from her other clients. She
probably made the same remarks with selected clients who came
across as gullible nice guys. If you quit it means her trick backfires.
 

gmaximus

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@metal_aug, hahahaha,ROFL. I kinda agree with your posts.

@kenpachi's friend, If this is what you needed to hear to quit the hobby then that's alright. This hobby is expensive as well as addictive. I don't want to encourage you or anyone to continue with this hobby but just to help you clear your conscience I'll say that not all SPs are the same. Yes there are some who hate their job and some who think they are God's gift to men but there are many who enjoy their work. Especially when they meet decent clients who treat them well.
I've gone out on social dates with some SPs who didn't want any donation because we enjoyed each others company. Some asked me out and one lady who I wanted to go out with refused the donation because she thought that it was only for bedroom activities. All these gems were my regulars and we clicked really well, so they were comfortable going out with me. Not saying that those who charge for social dates hate their job, but just trying to make a point here that some SPs like some clients and not all of them see us as just ATMs.

OP, you dont have to apologize if you are decent client. If you have decided to quit then I wish you all the best and I hope you find a hobby which makes you happy and not guilty. But if you decide to come back then stay away from that SP and maybe her agency as well.
 

GPIDEAL

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Charlotte's explanation is perfect. Have I loved every minute I spent with every client over the years? No, I'm not Jesus. Do I often look forward to the time I spend with many? Absolutely. That's not to say that A) the money is irrelevant or B) I would see them for free. SWs enter this industry for a number of reasons, money being a big factor. But that's not to say that all SWs curse all their clients under their breath. To the OP, it sounds like you met a fairly miserable lady but be careful not to paint us all with her bitter Betty brush. And furthermore, what lady in her right mind would even say something so ridiculous. She might have well said "you're gross and disgusting and so is every guy I see and all other SWs agree". This is not to say that there aren't some ladies who DO hold an overall negative opinion of all of their clients and I squirm to hear them group all their clients into the same category, similar to what's been done here.
Yes Daley, Charlotte's explanation is perfect, and so is yours thank you very much. :)

I don't get that impression that I'm imposing on the ladies. I've been generous and kind to all, even those who I might not have had the best experience with (In some rare cases, my generosity was taken advantage of a little or a lot, but c'est la vie).

I think Ken's friend got rattled by this. It is NOT true that we all are hurting all the ladies.
 

GPIDEAL

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You couldn't possibly be one of those clients she and
her peers curse and hate. I can only surmise that it is a ploy to
make you feel like you are different from her other clients. She
probably made the same remarks with selected clients who came
across as gullible nice guys. If you quit it means her trick backfires.
This too.
 

GPIDEAL

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There is a good segment of girls that consider johns as complete losers, regardless of how much money they spend on them. That's just the way it is. They will slave for a pimp, but consider a guy paying for it less of a man. It's the power thing and it's mostly reinforced by the low self esteem men who put a paid pussy on a pedestal by confusing pay for play with relationship.
I don't view the ladies I see merely as "paid pussy". I'm selective and enjoy my time with those I see, and am thankful for their pleasurable companionship and that they are there for our exciting interlude from the daily drudgery of life.

I don't know if they consider us completely as losers, but if there are those who do, I wouldn't think they are any better.
 
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GPIDEAL

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This gig is my dating without the BS and drama so..........

Guess not all ladies hate their clients. I wouldn't fuck anyone I don't like. So please don't get all white knight on my account.

Now I am not stupid and there are many ladies who are in this because they have to and I am sure the OP's friend {who really should have gotten his own account} ran into one of the ones that don't like this job. But like any job, most do like it, they just don't like it all the time. Everyone has complaints about jobs, about customers, about co-workers, about bosses, etc. I mean who would have thunk it. Escorts being like everyone else - crazy!
So true!
 

GPIDEAL

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*slow claps and wipes tears* Honestly I felt more exploited working 50-60 hrs a week and hardly being able to pay my student loan payments and car payment. Let alone could not move out from home.
Well said.

And I bet there are waitresses who have been humiliated by asshole customers who treated them like POS.
 

kherg007

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What makes a lady worth visiting is the entire package - its usually her looks that get you in the door, but then how she makes you feel, and her mind - witty, fun, interesting and interested - gets you coming back. Asking if her expressions toward you are "real" is to ask the wrong question. Asking if you were entertained by them is to ask the right question. It's analogous to WWE wresting - don't ask if its fake, ask if it entertained you. I have heard many a horror story about clients pushing back on taking showers, trying to negotiate, way overstaying, just giving commands to the lady like she's a sex doll....that you can understand that. These ladies are people with actual thoughts and feelings. In fact, kindly treating anyone as a person gets you pretty far whether dealing with an escort or dealing with a barista or dealing with a lady in the post office.
 

herbnessman

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What makes a lady worth visiting is the entire package - its usually her looks that get you in the door, but then how she makes you feel, and her mind - witty, fun, interesting and interested - gets you coming back. Asking if her expressions toward you are "real" is to ask the wrong question. Asking if you were entertained by them is to ask the right question. It's analogous to WWE wresting - don't ask if its fake, ask if it entertained you. I have heard many a horror story about clients pushing back on taking showers, trying to negotiate, way overstaying, just giving commands to the lady like she's a sex doll....that you can understand that. These ladies are people with actual thoughts and feelings. In fact, kindly treating anyone as a person gets you pretty far whether dealing with an escort or dealing with a barista or dealing with a lady in the post office.
I don know man. Despite my best efforts the lady in the post office is still a complete bitch to me. :)
 

kherg007

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I don know man. Despite my best efforts the lady in the post office is still a complete bitch to me. :)
pay the 'being nice' upcharge, makes a big difference.....LOL
 

Butler1000

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Giving way too much credit to this one SP.

She obviously is a bitter person. I've run into a few over the decades. Shouldn't have gone into the business.

I always give full credit to the ladies in this industry. It takes a special mindset to do it.
 

metal_aug

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I mean obviously the sex industry exists to provide the old/fat/ugly/awkward the opportunity to still get laid, so a certain level of those undesirable characteristics should be expected and stomached by the ladies.

But jesus christ dudes if you are past a certain threshold such that you resemble gollum or an orc from lotr, have the decency to take it upon yourself to NOT SEE the newest barely legal piece of ass. She was innocently riding a playground see-saw not too long ago yet suddenly the image of your hideous o-face will be seared into her memory for all eternity
 

jcpro

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I don't view the ladies I see merely as "paid pussy". I'm selective and enjoy my time with those I see, and am thankful for their pleasurable companionship that they are there for our exciting interlude from the daily drudgery of life.

I don't know if they consider us completely as losers, but if there are those who do, I wouldn't think they are any better.
I never said all, a good segment. Quite a few. When I first started using the "service", I looked into this(I used to have a less forgiving conscience). In many, many, but not all cases, it's a simple power game and the johns are the subs. It's the nature of the business. Firstly, generally speaking, dicks are dime a dozen. The SP controls the time, place, type, price and level of service (YMMV). Because dicks are dime a dozen, especially with the risk being on johns, many SPs, correctly, assume the attitude of superiority (to put it nicely). I've read actual studies on the subject, decades ago, when I was a much younger man. And I did confirmed it personally a couple times over (too many)drinks with some of the ladies. I'm not sure why this is even a surprise.
 

curr3n_c1000

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Hello everyone,

I don't kiss and tell, and will not ruin an angency's reputation. But, here we go. I saw an SP couple of weeks ago and generally have a good time. So I thought. I'm older and have been around the block couple of times, so I developed a lot of respect for all the ladies in the industry I've met and never in my life did I pushed nor do anything that they were not comfortable with. Perhaps the girl was in a bad mood, but she told me that all the girls curse their clients behind their backs and hate their job. If this was the case then why bother working in the industry? The obvious answer was given. She said she needed the money and this was the fastest way of going about it. That night I decided to quit this hobby as I realized that we are hurting them.

To all the women(SP) I met in the past thank you and sorry.

Ken, thank you for letting me use your account.
You mean the women we pay don't actually like us??? *Mindblown*

I think you have been lying to yourself over the years. You're a dirty cash dispenser to them, They are a piece of meat to you. It is what it is.

And secondly, there are a lot of mentally unstable women out here, and I'm not just talking about in the industry. Don't let them influence or dictate your life.

But it's good to have an exit plan.
 

GPIDEAL

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Giving way too much credit to this one SP.

She obviously is a bitter person. I've run into a few over the decades. Shouldn't have gone into the business.

I always give full credit to the ladies in this industry. It takes a special mindset to do it.

Probably the most accurate interpretation of the OP's experience in this thread. Thanks Butler.
 

GPIDEAL

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I mean obviously the sex industry exists to provide the old/fat/ugly/awkward the opportunity to still get laid, so a certain level of those undesirable characteristics should be expected and stomached by the ladies.

But jesus christ dudes if you are past a certain threshold such that you resemble gollum or an orc from lotr, have the decency to take it upon yourself to NOT SEE the newest barely legal piece of ass. She was innocently riding a playground see-saw not too long ago yet suddenly the image of your hideous o-face will be seared into her memory for all eternity
Two points:

a) I've talked to a lot of SPs who like those kindred spirits who are old and ugly because of the content of their character, generosity, and mind. Young Adonises can be narcissistic assholes, and that's a turn off to them.

b) I wonder how many really old farts go for the youngest SPs around? A really old guy would be happy to be with women in their 30s, 40s and 50s who are attractive, smart, presentable, etc. etc. because they have more in common. Younger SPs might not make them feel like they really enjoyed their company.
 
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