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Big Sleazy

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he might if he owned 100B in put options......if you go physical, how do you sleep at night with 50K in gold in your house? lol...and what's your address BTW...
Use a vaulting service. If your American you can store in Europe or Shanghai. Or even Canada. But the best way is to have it in your own hands. People think that it's dangerous. Talk to the people of Cypress who had there deposits confiscated. They thought they were safe. People have to begin to wrap there heads around the fact that Banks are the biggest criminals on the planet. Think about it. How do you launder all that drug money ???? Banks. Even the mafia have to go to them.

If it's stored on paper or in a digital format you have opened yourself up to abuse. Physical is the way to go. No counter party risk.

Think about how many currencies and Governments around the world have fallen. At least if you've got physical you've got something. And if your going to store at home... get a gun.

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George The Curious

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I would not be surprised if gold goes back to 500 - 600 / oz, which is what it is really worth.

See my post on 2013-2-1
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?419635-50k-Investment
Its funny how you recommend gold oil commodity at the height of commodity bubble.
Your the same kind of people l recommended . Com stocks back in 1999.

I think oil price will go down. Gold will crash. technology will make a comeback.
 

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I would not be surprised if gold goes back to 500 - 600 / oz, which is what it is really worth.
I would be surprised... The recent price drop has created a demand for "physical gold" (the kind of small gold bar you can put in a safety deposit box) and dealers that sell it are now all out of stock so this "demand" has stabilized the price. I'm not saying that gold has hit the bottom or that it will now increase in value, just that when the price falls like it did it creates demand in other ways so eventually the market reaches a state of equilibrium again. At the 500 handle those little (real gold) bars would really be flying off the shelves :)
 

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The central banks and the big investment banks have always controlled the price of gold. It's the one commodity that has never traded on supply and demand. China and several European central banks are buying gold like its going out of style, try talking to some bullion dealers and they will tell you they are having a hard time filling their orders because everybody is out of the stuff. Central banks only will buy large quantities if the price is very low so when they decide to start buying the markets have already fallen thanks to all the investment banks who have cried wolf and told all their clients to sell as they think gold will fall to $1200. You can't win in the gold market if you're a little player but you can get lucky once in a while and beat these guys at their game. Already seen a bit of a recovery in the price. I personally have been buying a junior called Balmoral Resources who have an interesting property in Quebec surrounded by mines already producing. Now everyone start buying Balmoral so I can make some $$$. lol
 

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The central banks and the big investment banks have always controlled the price of gold. It's the one commodity that has never traded on supply and demand. China and several European central banks are buying gold like its going out of style, try talking to some bullion dealers and they will tell you they are having a hard time filling their orders because everybody is out of the stuff. Central banks only will buy large quantities if the price is very low so when they decide to start buying the markets have already fallen thanks to all the investment banks who have cried wolf and told all their clients to sell as they think gold will fall to $1200. You can't win in the gold market if you're a little player but you can get lucky once in a while and beat these guys at their game. Already seen a bit of a recovery in the price. I personally have been buying a junior called Balmoral Resources who have an interesting property in Quebec surrounded by mines already producing. Now everyone start buying Balmoral so I can make some $$$. lol
Even if there is gold there, the cost of extracting it is pretty insane today....
 

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I would be surprised... The recent price drop has created a demand for "physical gold" (the kind of small gold bar you can put in a safety deposit box) and dealers that sell it are now all out of stock so this "demand" has stabilized the price. I'm not saying that gold has hit the bottom or that it will now increase in value, just that when the price falls like it did it creates demand in other ways so eventually the market reaches a state of equilibrium again. At the 500 handle those little (real gold) bars would really be flying off the shelves :)
It is not surprising, many people were waiting on the sidelines for a dip.. this is what you call "support" in a market. They will buy in..once their buying is fullfilled.. then what...
 

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Even if there is gold there, the cost of extracting it is pretty insane today....
True, costs have skyrocketed. My concerne is the Quebec government. They want to increase royalty rates which will deter mining investment in that province. The PQ. seems to be against any resource development in their province which makes no sense. Its the one economic area that is growing and offers high paying jobs. But then again what do you expect from the PQ.
 

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Holy smokes folks! Are you selling your gold/ gold shares or riding it out???
depends on your motivation....i got into gold as a hedge against a complete meltdown of the global economy where paper becomes meaningless. My investment in gold is looking pretty good these days.
 

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Comments from a noted investor reported in a current G&M article:


Gold magnate Seymour Schulich says everyone his age is worried about the global economy, especially when it comes to the central banks printing money, or national governments running up massive public debt.

“The people in my peer group are scared to death,” the 73-year-old investor and philanthropist said in an interview.

“The rate of paper printing going on in the world is humungous. The amount of debt being taken on by the governments to stimulate their economies is humungous,” Mr. Schulich said.

“When exactly the chickens come home to roost, nobody is smart enough to know – except those of us that are old and have seen the playing field for a long time know it will happen.”

But it’s not all doom and gloom from the Toronto-based billionaire, who made his fortune with gold royalty investments. An abiding fixture of the North American investment and business scene for more than four decades, Mr. Schulich believes natural gas is headed for a revival, and not surprisingly, still counts gold as a rock-solid investment.

Even though gold prices have plunged and gold companies are struggling, “the beauty of gold is it can’t be printed by governments.” Cautious, conservative investors should still invest in “gold, gold and more gold.”

Mr Schulich said he still likes New Gold Inc. and Franco-Nevada Corp. He also advises that “every investor should have 10 to 15 per cent of their money in gold. And I mean gold, not gold companies.”

With signs of a natural gas rebound, Mr. Schulich also takes a measure of pride in the fact he held on to his stock in the sector even as others fled the market. He has a controlling share in Birchcliff Energy Ltd., a Calgary company that he describes as having “a humungous amount of gas in the Montney.”

While new oil pipelines face tough resistance from landowners and environmental groups, Mr. Schulich said he doesn’t see the same opposition to natural gas transport. Canadian gas is closer to Asian markets than other sellers, and reserves are onshore. He predicts natural gas could be up in the range of $5 to $6 per million British thermal units a year from now.

“I’m very bullish on gas. Primary because I think if we’re smart enough, I think the LNG [liquefied natural gas] export opportunities are tremendous.”

Mr. Schulich said the commodities supercycle is far from over, but a “pause” in China’s ferocious consumption of materials such as coal, steel, copper and aluminum means there’s going to be a longer slowdown than he first thought. News reports on the size and scale of the Chinese overbuild have surprised him.

“The duration is hard to read. But there is a pause, and it could be a little longer than we all thought.”

In a period of uncertainty such as this, Mr. Schulich added one other piece of advice.

“You want to have cash around to a reasonably large degree. That’s a personal preference, but that’s my preference.”
 

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I would be surprised... The recent price drop has created a demand for "physical gold" (the kind of small gold bar you can put in a safety deposit box) and dealers that sell it are now all out of stock so this "demand" has stabilized the price. I'm not saying that gold has hit the bottom or that it will now increase in value, just that when the price falls like it did it creates demand in other ways so eventually the market reaches a state of equilibrium again. At the 500 handle those little (real gold) bars would really be flying off the shelves :)
There is a finite amount of Gold available for investment. They can print Gold certificates to oblivion. They can't print physical gold. Buy it. Hold it. And DO NOT put it into a safety deposit box at a Bank. Your just handing the criminals the keys to your Gold.

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Big Sleazy

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Gold has been the best performing asset over the last ten years. And that's with the Banksters trying to keep a lid on it !

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George The Curious

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Gold has been the best performing asset over the last ten years. And that's with the Banksters trying to keep a lid on it !

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look at 20 even 50 year historical chart. Gold is anything but stable performer . You can expect wild price swings as its purely artificial.
 

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I would be surprised... The recent price drop has created a demand for "physical gold" (the kind of small gold bar you can put in a safety deposit box) and dealers that sell it are now all out of stock so this "demand" has stabilized the price. I'm not saying that gold has hit the bottom or that it will now increase in value, just that when the price falls like it did it creates demand in other ways so eventually the market reaches a state of equilibrium again. At the 500 handle those little (real gold) bars would really be flying off the shelves :)
Its hard to find actual physical gold bar, most of these have been melted down for jewelry in Asia....

Actually there is a growing concern that the FEDS has leased most of its gold bar (properties of countries as gold reserve) to asia for a fee.....so no more gold bar in the gold vault.

Following the Venezuelan govt, now the german govt has requested its gold back but the FEDS are stalling, the German govt want to send its people for inspection of its giold but was denyn by the FEDS for "security reason".....How much of this is true remain to be seen....if more request its gold, it could lead to a serious problem.
 

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If the Fed had Germany's Gold they could have returned it within a week. All it was was 1300 tons of Gold. They ship heavy military equipment around the world every day. Moving 1300 tons is nothing. Germany's gold is gone.... period.

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George The Curious

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Gold at $500 - $600/oz? lol the central banks are not that stupid, at that price, there will be massive layoffs at goldmines all over the world, no gold production plus unemployment? No way
So I guess the world economy was in chaos back in 1999 when gold was around $300 USD?

I'm just saying anything is possible... someday somebody could discover a a cheap way to mine gold. US gov. may decide to sell gold, like UK did in 90s. anything can happen. gold maybe a good hedge against inflation, but not a quick way to make money.
 
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