GM to skip Windows Vista

[jwmorrice]

With some large businesses taking a pass on their latest offering, perhaps MS will smarten up when it comes to Windows 7??

jwm

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2008/tc20080512_157155.htm

 

[vavog]

Good article. Couldn't agree with them more.

If anyone finds an opposing article (non microsoft please) that argues why one SHOULD switch to Vista, that would be an interesting read as well.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Classic GM response

No surprise here.
This is the way the General always conducted business. It takes them years to correct a known design problem in their vehicles and then once the problem is fixed making the vehicle involved a decent vehicle, they phase out that vehicle.
So why should they treat switching their PCs over to a newer OS any differently?....

 

[S.C. Joe]

GM just decided this week that marketing high mileage cars and not running as many ads for gas hog trucks might be a good idea

Those guys running GM are like "not in touch with the real world".

As for Vista, MS can keep it.

 

[Horney_Senior]

GM just decided this week that marketing high mileage cars and not running as many ads for gas hog trucks might be a good idea

Those guys running GM are like "not in touch with the real world".

As for Vista, MS can keep it.

Interesting. I've used Vista for more than a year with no problem. On the other hand I also have not seen any compelling reason why a business would want or need to switch away from XP.

 

[cypherpunk]

This might say as much about GM as it does about Vista. Maybe they just don't have room in the budget for the upgrade cycle. Does anyone here have a good handle on GM's finances these days?

 

[WoodPeckr]

I think it has more to do with the way GM does things...
Some of their plants are still using Pent II PCs, with mim RAM and W2K OS! They plan upgrading these antiques over the next couple years to maybe P3 or maybe a P4 if they get a good deal. So this probably has something to do with staying with XP for now.

 

[papasmerf]

I think it has more to do with the way GM does things...
Some of their plants are still using Pent II PCs, with mim RAM and W2K OS! They plan upgrading these antiques over the next couple years to maybe P3 or maybe a P4 if they get a good deal. So this probably has something to do with staying with XP for now.

If it aint broke don't fix it......................Unless you are a gamer you do not need to upgrade a working unit.

 

[danmand]

I think it has more to do with the way GM does things...

Knowing GM and EDS from a little back, I think you are right.

There is nothing they are unable to get wrong.

 

[Meister]

In business you use the cheapest tool to effectively do your job. So if XP does the job well, why change it? Upgradinge to Vista does not only involve the cost of the new software, but also the numerous upgrades, replacements you have to do for the applications. And that doesn't include the countless IT hours for implementation.

 

[Diesel Jockey]

Hell I'd be using dos 5.0 if I could find the Apps I use for it.

HA! Although I am not overly literate with DOS, I do remember VERY well it NOT crashing one me (the apps did tho). Come to think of it and correct me if I'm wrong but, didn't windows really start going down hill after 3.0? Or was it just right from the start?

Back on topic.... I've thought a couple times of upgrading my systems to Vista for no other reason than, it's new and pretty. But thanks to many threads throughout the www and this one, I won't bother. I still have occassional compatibility issues with XP. I don't need to make that pain any worse.

 

[Diesel Jockey]

Freedos? Any relation to the once called "Lindows" which I think is now Linspire? A Linux project I believe. When it FIRST hit the net for DL I installed and checked it out. Seemed quite stable for a beta. As you said tho..... no apps compatible and I'm not sure thats changed today either.
I would loved to have seen a Windows variant,Linux or Redhat take a piece out of Mr.Bill.

 

[Diesel Jockey]

Nevermind. Answered my own question. The suffix dos should have been a give awaybut hey....... I'm the not so rocket scientist club manager.
Thanks Google.

 

[canucklehead]

Many of the IT Directors at companies i deal with have no migration plan for Vista and most have tested it. A few are looking at other solutions.

 

[TDL2003]

Knowing GM and EDS from a little back, I think you are right.

There is nothing they are unable to get wrong.

Hmmm... I worked on contract for EDS, at a couple of GM facilities about 8 years ago, on a project to update their workstations.

Ended up replacing some PC's that were W3.1 with WordPerfect 5.1 and others had NT4 and the whole MS Office suite. Not standards whatsoever.

For the poor bastards that had W3.1 and WP5 pure terror in their eyes when we removed their old PC and put a new one down with NT 4/Office. Scary thing is they had no training on NT or MS Word and we were told to just keep hammering out the new PC's. User training was someone else's problem.

For some reason GM/EDS went with Compaq as the PC provider - one out of every ten workstations wouldn't take the Ghost image and had to be returned and the laptops at one point had a 40% failure rate out of the box.

And then there was Tivoli. That goddamn thing half the time it wouldn't push the value add applications out properly and we would end up having to install from cd's.

What a friggin mess.

 

[21pro]

It's amazing that the american automakers haven't gone to open source like Toyota, Hyundai and Kia... don't they know they'd save some $$$ in doing so?

perhaps, axing a few jobs is a better way? whatever...

 

[The Bandit]

I like the way the new Mac commercials take shots at how bad Vista is. My XP works great, who neeeds Vista. I guess some people who ran out and picked it up because it was the latest-and-greatest, probably regret it.

 

[WoodPeckr]

I like the way the new Mac commercials take shots at how bad Vista is.

Of course. They want you to buy an expensive Mac...

I use XP Pro, Vista and Linux....they all run trouble free for me. Any new PC you get comes with Vista. Been using Vista since this Feb with no problems. Put in SP1 and it ran even better and faster. Used XP the longest with no problems and am most familiar with XP. Used linux about a year and can do anything with it now, plus don't have any spyware/malware/virus worries.....I'm using Ubuntu right now. Haven't run Windows in a couple days now.

Wanted to get a new Quad Core. Priced out a Mac Quad and couldn't believe what they wanted. For the Price of 1 Mac Quad you can get 3 PC Quads with equal specs, with the monitor included! Mac charges more for the monitor. This convinced me to give free open source linux a try and I'm glad I did.

 

[21pro]

i have all 3 systems too.. each on different computers.

at work, all of our systems run linux (the best imo for reliability and large data work)
on my laptops, they all run vista (i have to buy new ones every year so it comes pre-installed)
at my home desktop i still have xp pro (older computer)

with linux i have alot less security threats, with vista security is good though it slows the computer when doing graphics, etc..., xp runs smooth- but, so much hidden spyware and viruses get passed even the best updated antivirus...

Mac's are rediculously overpriced. even my graphic design department switched away from mac products last year.

 

[spheroyds]

...wouldn't it be romantic

if MS embraced the BSD path like Apple.

I can't see how an old codebase from the late 80s can compete.

Even Apple saw the light and they are kicking the snot out of MS in perception, product and placement after a few years of BSD compatibility growing pains.