Ghosting

[Jasmine Raine]

If you tell her than it's like you're giving her an ultimatum . That's not I want . Either shape up or I'm gone . In other words I'd rather have her want to give good service and not force her.

It's like being married and the wife is not interested that night . Do you force her to have sex that night ? If you do than you're not going to have a great time compared to her being interested and wanting sex . If you force her than the wife will resent that and she will remember that you didn't respect her wishes at the time . Same thing with a SP .

She feels that she can get away with practically doing nothing . That to me is a sign of disrespect hence it's good-bye .

I call it the Pizza Effect . When a place sells pizza at first they make great pizzas to get the customers . Than after awhile the pizza quality goes downhill until you had enough of the shit that they are making . And NO I'm not going to speak to the manager and tell him or her why I'm not buying from them any more. Same thing goes with a SP .

Ya - for some stupid reason - I think forcing someone to have sex is a bad idea also. Call me weird but it just doesn't seem right to do that. They may even have a law on it.

So good on you for not wanting to be "THAT" guy. Even to the point of not wanting to appear to be giving an ultimatum that feels forced.

As for the girl - if she is a paid companion, it is not ghosting in my opinion. You call her when you want some action. Not the other way around. She doesn't call you when she needs money. That is not what a pro/client relationship is suppose to be about.

As for ghosting in the civie world - I don't see a place for it. There is a thing called "block" on every email account and phone, cell and landline. So tell the person you don't want to see them anymore and move on. If they bug, block. Easy peasy.

 

[malata]

i'd rather things be told, like a i be too sexy than leave me out banging

 

[rhuarc29]

Is this just in regards to the industry, or also civvie dating?

In the industry, it's a business relationship, so I wouldn't be overly concerned. Be professional, but you also don't owe an explanation should you choose to stop seeing someone.

In the civvie world, I think the only appropriate time to ghost someone is if they're a toxic relationship. For instance, I went on a couple dates with a woman, which went well aside from her always being late, but on the third date she cancelled last-minute. This put me out, as I had come from out of town. She cancelled the next date last-minute as well. I discussed with her how that was disrespectful of my time, and she was pretty standoffish about it, but eventually amicable. But her flakiness continued and eventually I had enough. Though maybe that wouldn't even be considered ghosting, because I gave her my reasons before walking away. Nothing shows a lack of character like disrespecting someone else's time, either through cluelessness or intention.

She was pissed that I stopped talking to her and sent some ranty texts that I didn't respond to.

 

[malata]

Is this just in regards to the industry, or also civvie dating?

op be referring to civieee . but your take on industry, keep it pro

 

[FlorenceYi]

Well I'm ghosting right now . Have been seeing a certain lady for a few years now . Recently her service has gone down hill . It's like she knows me and is cutting back as much as she can . A few weeks ago she just sat on the couch the whole time . When we first came in the house I went to give her a hug and a kiss and is was "hey not so fast ' . A hug and a kiss is not that fast . I'm thinking this is not going to turn out well .

We sat and talked for a while . Finely I had enough and went to taste some nice pussy . Well lucky if I had 90 secs , she got up , put her g string on a mentioned something about catching germs on the couch . Then lucky if I got 90 secs with her feet . She pulled them away . Now it's time to leave . I didn't even get a chance to see her bare ass .

Why should I care about her . She has no problem in screwing me around for service . She certainly is not thinking about pleasing me yet I'm the one paying her .

She always telling me texting how much she likes seeing me . Yea right . She texted me a few days before Christmas .I knew what she wanted and it wasn't me . It was what I had in my pocket . Sure sit on the couch for the whole time and walk away with easy money , smokes and some booze .

Then she calls me 2 days before Christmas at 12:15 am . Like really honey you need the money that bad . Let the phone ring . Fuck you .

I pick her up and take her home so she could save a few bucks on a ride . Give her smokes , booze and pay her well . This is how she treats me .

Right now I want nothing to do with her even if I got it for free . Telling her why I don't want to see her anymore . Well she didn't tell me why she has been cutting back on service .

Ghosting her . You're darn right . Go find someone that treats you as good as I did . Good riddance

This is what happens sometimes . They really get to know you . See that you're a really nice guy and they start cutting back on service thinking you won't say anything .

She's right . I didn't say anything . LOL

John, this is NOT okay behaviour on her part mostly... don't enable her by answering her phonecall! This is not what a reputable sp who loves her job looks like, I'm sorry you had this experience with someone who took your patronage for granted. Doesn't matter if it's a first time or the 10th time, the client-sp relationship must be respected and it goes both ways - boundaries.

What are your thoughts on ghosting? Is it perfectly fine, sometimes appropriate, or never appropriate? It often seems like it's one of those things women are allowed to do but, if a man does it, he's an asshole.

In my opinion, there is never a good reason to ghost someone. It's cowardly, selfish, disrespectful and is a sign of poor character. Why is it so hard to make a proper conclusion with a person? If it's a date, why not just tell the other person you don't think it's going to work out? Anything after that doesn't need a reply. At least you informed the other of your stance and neither party needs to waste time and can move on.

I can provide some insight though - it's true when providers say that 90% of clients text and then ghost. This is a very high rate compared to let's say.. ~25% of regular businesses where you might call in to see if a restaurant has a reservation but never actually book. The issue for us is figuring out who is actually a serious booker and who isn't. The other thing is usually we don't have receptionist or booker person to answer our texts/emails, and so we are answering them as we go about our daily lives (whether that is school for some, a day job for others, or sp-ing and actually taking appointments). Responses may be delayed due to this. The exception is when a lady is literally sitting in a hotel room, already freshly showered and prepped, waiting for a client to text them, and on their phone, giving 100% attention. Trust me, I wish I could bring my phone into my shower.. cuz it takes me a while to wash this lion's mane. The best way to contact a provider is to not go back and forth in your communication. Literally say:

'I want to book a 1hr incall at your downtown location for today at 4pm. My name is John'
(rather than splitting this up into 3 separate messages like one of the above posts..)

This will put you at the top priority to answer above all other nonsensical texts that look like this:
'Hey baby'
'u avail'
'do you do hh'

Please see: https://xostefania.nl/how-to-book-an-escort/

The other part of ghosting is if an actual appointment is booked and either side decides to 'no-show'. That is not cool on either party!

 

[kherg007]

John, this is NOT okay behaviour on her part mostly... don't enable her by answering her phonecall! This is not what a reputable sp who loves her job looks like, I'm sorry you had this experience with someone who took your patronage for granted. Doesn't matter if it's a first time or the 10th time, the client-sp relationship must be respected and it goes both ways - boundaries.



I can provide some insight though - it's true when providers say that 90% of clients text and then ghost. This is a very high rate compared to let's say.. ~25% of regular businesses where you might call in to see if a restaurant has a reservation but never actually book. The issue for us is figuring out who is actually a serious booker and who isn't. The other thing is usually we don't have receptionist or booker person to answer our texts/emails, and so we are answering them as we go about our daily lives (whether that is school for some, a day job for others, or sp-ing and actually taking appointments). Responses may be delayed due to this. The exception is when a lady is literally sitting in a hotel room, already freshly showered and prepped, waiting for a client to text them, and on their phone, giving 100% attention. Trust me, I wish I could bring my phone into my shower.. cuz it takes me a while to wash this lion's mane. The best way to contact a provider is to not go back and forth in your communication. Literally say:

'I want to book a 1hr incall at your downtown location for today at 4pm. My name is John'
(rather than splitting this up into 3 separate messages like one of the above posts..)

This will put you at the top priority to answer above all other nonsensical texts that look like this:
'Hey baby'
'u avail'
'do you do hh'

Please see: https://xostefania.nl/how-to-book-an-escort/

The other part of ghosting is if an actual appointment is booked and either side decides to 'no-show'. That is not cool on either party!

Sometimes you have to break up the messages though. If i got a real life meeting that morning, and have a chance to see a fave, I have to know her time window so if I can book my real life meeting so as to not conflict w my visit w the lady. Then I usually got an airplane to catch. So juggling lots of people - and I've usually given her an email a head's up that I'm going to be in town. Thus to gamble on a single time slot and have that fail would make me feel like I was all "talk" about seeing her but no action. Cuz what I won't do is send request messages to 3 different ladies at once requesting their time then backing out of one or more of them. Anyhow, I think those latter 2 are worse offences than the first. I am happy to be corrected on that however.

 

[basketcase]

What are your thoughts on ghosting?....

Funny to see a name attached to something that has always happened. It's obviously not courteous to just disappear but courtesy isn't always expected. And IMO, simply leaving things at "sorry, this isn't working out" is acceptable for any relationship unless you are serious to the point of spending as much time together as apart.

As for SPs, we're adults in a business relationship. No need to explain to one restaurant why you want to eat somewhere else and no need for a restaurant to tell you they are closing. Only exception I would give is if an appointment is made. In that case, you should contact them and apologise (no reason needed though).

 

[Jasmina]

You're an idiot. No, clients are NOT entitled to free time via phone/text while expecting random ongoing conversation, the dude clearly said she would chat with him for a while before disappearing. He was obviously taking advantage and she ghosted because he was probably being pushy/not taking subtle hints.

You seem awfully defensive about it, why is that?

As for your completely illogical and irrelevant description, I had tons of clients who I had no trouble starting play the second they entered to the door to the moment it closed. Sounds like maybe chicks just don't dig fucking you if that's something you find hard to find.

Someday that post is going to bite you in the butt . When a lady complains about a client he can say .....you are not my girlfriend , you are not my friend even though many providers have great friendships with some clients . I have a life outside of you and your needs honey .

Not entitled to real time conversation . FINE . Then when a lady comes to my place I expect her to be on her knees or on her back the entire time . No yap yap at all because that's not what she's being be paid for . Would that be OK with you . You are being paid to entertain me . Nothing else .

Put it this way . A lady trying to strike up a conversation while being paid is stealing time from the client when she could be doing other things . See this is what you get when you make a dumb post like that . You are a Provider , not my girlfriend not my friend and I have a life outside of you and your needs so start what you are being paid for and provide for my needs . Nasty way of thinking is it not .

The way you're writing it's like the client is nothing but a banking machine so intern it's OK for the client to think of the lady as a piece of meat .

 

[John Henry]

You're an idiot. No, clients are NOT entitled to free time via phone/text while expecting random ongoing conversation, the dude clearly said she would chat with him for a while before disappearing. He was obviously taking advantage and she ghosted because he was probably being pushy/not taking subtle hints.

You seem awfully defensive about it, why is that?

As for your completely illogical and irrelevant description, I had tons of clients who I had no trouble starting play the second they entered to the door to the moment it closed. Sounds like maybe chicks just don't dig fucking you if that's something you find hard to find.

I'm an idiot ? Well in this free country that we live in you are allowed to have an opinion . To tell you the truth I really don't give a darn what you or anyone else thinks of me . You don't pay my bills . I have a few choice words describing what I think of you but being a gentleman I'm not going to say them .

Sounds like chicks don't like screwing me . Did you not read my post or maybe you need someone to translate the English language for you . I said that I've know and I have seen her for a few years now . If she was not interested she wouldn't have seen me in the first place . Daaaaa .

Next time you see one of your married clients you can ask them what's your problem . Doesn't your significant other want to screw you anymore . You have to resort in finding someone like me and pay me to screw you because your wife has told you to get lost . Ask them that if you dare . Gee what happened over time that has made the significant other loose interest .

I'm not interested in chit chat when I'm paying . I couldn't care less how she's doing , how her mother or father is doing or any of her kids . I don't give a shit about any of them . Period . When a lady texts me asking if I'm interested in seeing her than I always give a quick response whether it being yes or no . I expect her to do the same.

You have no problem in a lady taking money from a client and doing nothing or doing very little ? That's OK with you . She's the one that wanted to see me . I didn't ask her if she was available . She thinks that she found a sucker and now is able to get away with doing nothing . Well she found out a few times when I didn't answer the phone or text .

This thread is about ghosting . That's exactly what I did . I have no problem in doing that BECAUSE SHE IS NOT MY GIRLFRIEND , I'M NOT HER FRIEND AND I HAVE A WHOLE LIFE OUTSIDE OF HER NEEDS . GOT IT SWEETY .

If you read his post you will see that he was trying to set things up . Sometimes it takes more than 1 or 2 texts . Apparently you don't see it that way . Here's a word of advice . When reading a post read and understand what it exactly says . Not what you think it says . You'll be better off for it .

 

[likwid]

What world are you people living in? This industry is about the hustle life, be vigilant if your going to partake.

 

[Jasmina]

LOL you are nutty af. You have gone so far off topic to the post of mine you responded to that I have whip lash.

I think I nailed it when I said you seem awfully defensive. You may want to reflect on that some after you go back and read my initial comment, and the comment it was in response to.

I'm an idiot ? Well in this free country that we live in you are allowed to have an opinion . To tell you the truth I really don't give a darn what you or anyone else thinks of me . You don't pay my bills . I have a few choice words describing what I think of you but being a gentleman I'm not going to say them .

Sounds like chicks don't like screwing me . Did you not read my post or maybe you need someone to translate the English language for you . I said that I've know and I have seen her for a few years now . If she was not interested she wouldn't have seen me in the first place . Daaaaa .

Next time you see one of your married clients you can ask them what's your problem . Doesn't your significant other want to screw you anymore . You have to resort in finding someone like me and pay me to screw you because your wife has told you to get lost . Ask them that if you dare . Gee what happened over time that has made the significant other loose interest .

I'm not interested in chit chat when I'm paying . I couldn't care less how she's doing , how her mother or father is doing or any of her kids . I don't give a shit about any of them . Period . When a lady texts me asking if I'm interested in seeing her than I always give a quick response whether it being yes or no . I expect her to do the same.

You have no problem in a lady taking money from a client and doing nothing or doing very little ? That's OK with you . She's the one that wanted to see me . I didn't ask her if she was available . She thinks that she found a sucker and now is able to get away with doing nothing . Well she found out a few times when I didn't answer the phone or text .

This thread is about ghosting . That's exactly what I did . I have no problem in doing that BECAUSE SHE IS NOT MY GIRLFRIEND , I'M NOT HER FRIEND AND I HAVE A WHOLE LIFE OUTSIDE OF HER NEEDS . GOT IT SWEETY .

If you read his post you will see that he was trying to set things up . Sometimes it takes more than 1 or 2 texts . Apparently you don't see it that way . Here's a word of advice . When reading a post read and understand what it exactly says . Not what you think it says . You'll be better off for it .

 

[whiteshaft]

As for SPs, we're adults in a business relationship. No need to explain to one restaurant why you want to eat somewhere else and no need for a restaurant to tell you they are closing. Only exception I would give is if an appointment is made. In that case, you should contact them and apologise (no reason needed though).

You got a very good point here basketcase. It's after all as you said a business relationship!:thumb:

 

[Indiana]

Ghosting??
I’m still trying to figure out what lit means.

 

[John Henry]

Ghosting??
I’m still trying to figure out what lit means.

Suddenly cutting off all communication with another person with no explanation why . Example a guy sees a SP a few times and he contacts her to see her again . He gets no response from her . She ignores him and doesn't tell him why she is doing so .

Same as a guy ignoring a Sp that he has seen many times and he ignores her texts .

Easy way of saying fuck you with out giving an explanation . Leaves the person being ghosted thinking what the fuck .

It's not nice but many people do it . If you don't give a rats ass about a person than that's the thing to do .

 

[John Henry]

LOL you are nutty af. You have gone so far off topic to the post of mine you responded to that I have whip lash.

I think I nailed it when I said you seem awfully defensive. You may want to reflect on that some after you go back and read my initial comment, and the comment it was in response to.

Thank you very much for commenting on my post . I see that you have already figured me out after a few posts . Well done . You skills in figuring out a person are very good . You should have been a Psychologist .

 

[luvyeah]

Ghosting??
I’m still trying to figure out what lit means.

 

[Liquidity]

What are your thoughts on ghosting? Is it perfectly fine, sometimes appropriate, or never appropriate? It often seems like it's one of those things women are allowed to do but, if a man does it, he's an asshole.

In my opinion, there is never a good reason to ghost someone. It's cowardly, selfish, disrespectful and is a sign of poor character. Why is it so hard to make a proper conclusion with a person? If it's a date, why not just tell the other person you don't think it's going to work out? Anything after that doesn't need a reply. At least you informed the other of your stance and neither party needs to waste time and can move on.

In this age of hyper competitive, fast-paced world there is no "society" any longer. Nobody owes you anything. Not an explanation. Not advice on what you have or are doing wrong. Those who get ahead associate only with people who are net beneficial to them and dump them or "ghost" them when that stops being the case. It's the most logical and effective way of dumping worthless people.

 

[Smallcock]

In this age of hyper competitive, fast-paced world there is no "society" any longer. Nobody owes you anything. Not an explanation. Not advice on what you have or are doing wrong. Those who get ahead associate only with people who are net beneficial to them and dump them or "ghost" them when that stops being the case. It's the most logical and effective way of dumping worthless people.

Yes!!!

 

[malata]

In this age of hyper competitive, fast-paced world there is no "society" any longer. Nobody owes you anything. Not an explanation. Not advice on what you have or are doing wrong. Those who get ahead associate only with people who are net beneficial to them and dump them or "ghost" them when that stops being the case. It's the most logical and effective way of dumping worthless people.

sounds like a business relationship

 

[Scarey]

I'd like to take this time to offer to pay for a one hour session for John Henry and Jasmina. There's nothing that can't be solved with a little fucking and affection...…..