Ghosting

[User 123]

What are your thoughts on ghosting? Is it perfectly fine, sometimes appropriate, or never appropriate? It often seems like it's one of those things women are allowed to do but, if a man does it, he's an asshole.

In my opinion, there is never a good reason to ghost someone. It's cowardly, selfish, disrespectful and is a sign of poor character. Why is it so hard to make a proper conclusion with a person? If it's a date, why not just tell the other person you don't think it's going to work out? Anything after that doesn't need a reply. At least you informed the other of your stance and neither party needs to waste time and can move on.

 

[luvyeah]

What are your thoughts on ghosting? Is it perfectly fine, sometimes appropriate, or never appropriate? It often seems like it's one of those things women are allowed to do but, if a man does it, he's an asshole.

In my opinion, there is never a good reason to ghost someone. It's cowardly, selfish, disrespectful and is a sign of poor character. Why is it so hard to make a proper conclusion with a person? If it's a date, why not just tell the other person you don't think it's going to work out? Anything after that doesn't need a reply. At least you informed the other of your stance and neither party needs to waste time and can move on.

If everyone was considerate of everyone's time this wouldn't happen.
However, there has been the occasion where I have been bitched out because how dare I ask about rates or services or availability and then confirm I will not see them rather than just leaving it open ended. In my mind I think it's better to just say I won't see you and leave it at that instead of including a reason like "goddam you charge way too fucking much" or "because you wont lemme paint your face" or "I don't wanna wait around all fucking day to see you" - hopefully you get the gist!

 

[User 123]

If everyone was considerate of everyone's time this wouldn't happen.
However, there has been the occasion where I have been bitched out because how dare I ask about rates or services or availability and then confirm I will not see them rather than just leaving it open ended. In my mind I think it's better to just say I won't see you and leave it at that instead of including a reason like "goddam you charge way too fucking much" or "because you wont lemme paint your face" or "I don't wanna wait around all fucking day to see you" - hopefully you get the gist!

If you told the girl you are no longer interested in seeing her but without a reason, it isn't technically ghosting since a conclusion was drawn. That being said... If you politely decline due to rates and she bitches you out calling you a cheap piece of shit etc. That's just a poor reflection of her character and you probablly wouldn't want to see someone like that anyways.

 

[luvyeah]

If you told the girl you are no longer interested in seeing her but without a reason, it isn't technically ghosting since a conclusion was drawn. That being said... If you politely decline due to rates and she bitches you out calling you a cheap piece of shit etc. That's just a poor reflection of her character and you probablly wouldn't want to see someone like that anyways.

Yeah after they do that, it's only called for to fuck with them, like mentioning how you will regret not being able to meet such a lovely human being.
Maybe I'm just an asshole. :encouragement:

 

[John Henry]

Well I'm ghosting right now . Have been seeing a certain lady for a few years now . Recently her service has gone down hill . It's like she knows me and is cutting back as much as she can . A few weeks ago she just sat on the couch the whole time . When we first came in the house I went to give her a hug and a kiss and is was "hey not so fast ' . A hug and a kiss is not that fast . I'm thinking this is not going to turn out well .

We sat and talked for a while . Finely I had enough and went to taste some nice pussy . Well lucky if I had 90 secs , she got up , put her g string on a mentioned something about catching germs on the couch . Then lucky if I got 90 secs with her feet . She pulled them away . Now it's time to leave . I didn't even get a chance to see her bare ass .

Why should I care about her . She has no problem in screwing me around for service . She certainly is not thinking about pleasing me yet I'm the one paying her .

She always telling me texting how much she likes seeing me . Yea right . She texted me a few days before Christmas .I knew what she wanted and it wasn't me . It was what I had in my pocket . Sure sit on the couch for the whole time and walk away with easy money , smokes and some booze .

Then she calls me 2 days before Christmas at 12:15 am . Like really honey you need the money that bad . Let the phone ring . Fuck you .

I pick her up and take her home so she could save a few bucks on a ride . Give her smokes , booze and pay her well . This is how she treats me .

Right now I want nothing to do with her even if I got it for free . Telling her why I don't want to see her anymore . Well she didn't tell me why she has been cutting back on service .

Ghosting her . You're darn right . Go find someone that treats you as good as I did . Good riddance

This is what happens sometimes . They really get to know you . See that you're a really nice guy and they start cutting back on service thinking you won't say anything .

She's right . I didn't say anything . LOL

 

[koreanjames]

John Henry , this is a provider or a wife? Sounds like a toxic girlfriend.

If this is a provider I’d ignore her for good.

Well I'm ghosting right now . Have been seeing a certain lady for a few years now . Recently her service has gone down hill . It's like she knows me and is cutting back as much as she can . A few weeks ago she just sat on the couch the whole time . When we first came in the house I went to give her a hug and a kiss and is was "hey not so fast ' . A hug and a kiss is not that fast . I'm thinking this is not going to turn out well .

We sat and talked for a while . Finely I had enough and went to taste some nice pussy . Well lucky if I had 90 secs , she got up , put her g string on a mentioned something about catching germs on the couch . Then lucky if I got 90 secs with her feet . She pulled them away . Now it's time to leave . I didn't even get a chance to see her bare ass .

Why should I care about her . She has no problem in screwing me around for service . She certainly is not thinking about pleasing me yet I'm the one paying her .

She always tell me texting how much she likes seeing me . Yea right . She texted me a few days before Christmas .I knew what she wanted and it wasn't me . It was what I had in my pocket . Sure sit on the couch for the whole time and walk away with easy money , smokes and some booze .

Then she calls me 2 days before Christmas at 12:15 am . Like really honey you need the money that bad . Let the phone ring . Fuck you .

I pick her up and take her home so she could save a few bucks on a ride . Give her smokes , booze and pay her well . This is how she treats me .

Right now I want nothing to do with her even if I got it for free . Telling her why I don't want to see her anymore . Well she didn't tell me why she has been cutting back on service .

Ghosting her . You're darn right . Go find someone that treats you as good as I did . Good riddance

This is what happens sometimes . They really get to know you . See that you're a really nice guy and they start cutting back on service thinking you won't say anything .

She's right . I didn't say anything . LOL

 

[User 123]

Well I'm ghosting right now . Have been seeing a certain lady for a few years now . Recently her service has gone down hill . It's like she knows me and is cutting back as much as she can . A few weeks ago she just sat on the couch the whole time . When we first came in the house I went to give her a hug and a kiss and is was "hey not so fast ' . A hug and a kiss is not that fast . I'm thinking this is not going to turn out well .

We sat and talked for a while . Finely I had enough and went to taste some nice pussy . Well lucky if I had 90 secs , she got up , put her g string on a mentioned something about catching germs on the couch . Then lucky if I got 90 secs with her feet . She pulled them away . Now it's time to leave . I didn't even get a chance to see her bare ass .

Why should I care about her . She has no problem in screwing me around for service . She certainly is not thinking about pleasing me yet I'm the one paying her .

She always tell me texting how much she likes seeing me . Yea right . She texted me a few days before Christmas .I knew what she wanted and it wasn't me . It was what I had in my pocket . Sure sit on the couch for the whole time and walk away with easy money , smokes and some booze .

Then she calls me 2 days before Christmas at 12:15 am . Like really honey you need the money that bad . Let the phone ring . Fuck you .

I pick her up and take her home so she could save a few bucks on a ride . Give her smokes , booze and pay her well . This is how she treats me .

Right now I want nothing to do with her even if I got it for free . Telling her why I don't want to see her anymore . Well she didn't tell me why she has been cutting back on service .

Ghosting her . You're darn right . Go find someone that treats you as good as I did . Good riddance

This is what happens sometimes . They really get to know you . See that you're a really nice guy and they start cutting back on service thinking you won't say anything .

She's right . I didn't say anything . LOL

why not tell her you think she's been slacking. At least this gives her a chance to redeem herself. If she reacts poorly then screw her and move on.

 

[John Henry]

why not tell her you think she's been slacking. At least this gives her a chance to redeem herself. If she reacts poorly then screw her and move on.

If you tell her than it's like you're giving her an ultimatum . That's not I want . Either shape up or I'm gone . In other words I'd rather have her want to give good service and not force her.

It's like being married and the wife is not interested that night . Do you force her to have sex that night ? If you do than you're not going to have a great time compared to her being interested and wanting sex . If you force her than the wife will resent that and she will remember that you didn't respect her wishes at the time . Same thing with a SP .

She feels that she can get away with practically doing nothing . That to me is a sign of disrespect hence it's good-bye .

I call it the Pizza Effect . When a place sells pizza at first they make great pizzas to get the customers . Than after awhile the pizza quality goes downhill until you had enough of the shit that they are making . And NO I'm not going to speak to the manager and tell him or her why I'm not buying from them any more. Same thing goes with a SP .

 

[John Henry]

John Henry , this is a provider or a wife? Sounds like a toxic girlfriend.

If this is a provider I’d ignore her for good.

Provider . I've known her for quite awhile . Like I said I would pick her up at her place to save her cab fare . If I drank when she was here ( she would also drink ) than I would pay for her cab home . Her donation that she got from me was never used for travel expenses .

 

[Imperius]

I also think ghosting is unacceptable behaviour, but I see a number of SPs doing it (both in their professional and personal lives) and they seem to think it's normal and acceptable. I wonder if it's partly a generational thing.

I think it's disrespectful, rude, and cowardly. Imagine just bailing in the middle of a conversation! No "gotta go" or "bye/ttyl". Just leave you hanging with no idea of what happened. WTF!

I have a regular SP who used to bail in the middle of text chats. Suddenly there would be silence, and later when I'd ask she'd say "Oh I decided to put my phone away and do something else."

REALLY?!? In the middle of an active real-time conversation???

I called her on it after several such occurrences, as well as several occurrences of same day rescheduling of multi-hour dates, and we nearly broke contact. She apologized and has done better since then, but I'm wary of her taking me for granted and service going downhill because I'm generally pretty laid back and accommodating.

So No to ghosting! Be better people. Your conversation partner deserves conversational closure!

 

[John Henry]

I also think ghosting is unacceptable behaviour, but I see a number of SPs doing it (both in their professional and personal lives) and they seem to think it's normal and acceptable. I wonder if it's partly a generational thing.

I think it's disrespectful, rude, and cowardly. Imagine just bailing in the middle of a conversation! No "gotta go" or "bye/ttyl". Just leave you hanging with no idea of what happened. WTF!

I have a regular SP who used to bail in the middle of text chats. Suddenly there would be silence, and later when I'd ask she'd say "Oh I decided to put my phone away and do something else."

REALLY?!? In the middle of an active real-time conversation???

I called her on it after several such occurrences, as well as several occurrences of same day rescheduling of multi-hour dates, and we nearly broke contact. She apologized and has done better since then, but I'm wary of her taking me for granted and service going downhill because I'm generally pretty laid back and accommodating.

So No to ghosting! Be better people. Your conversation partner deserves conversational closure!

Had that happen to me as well . I get a text from a girl and I respond very quickly . She doesn't have to wait long for my text . So when I'm waiting for a text back to me it could 45 mins before I get one . Why bother texting me if you can't reply in a timely manner . I just don't get it .

 

[kherg007]

Had that happen to me as well . I get a text from a girl and I respond very quickly . She doesn't have to wait long for my text . So when I'm waiting for a text back to me it could 45 mins before I get one . Why bother texting me if you can't reply in a timely manner . I just don't get it .

Amen. Maybe it is a generational thing. Had that w a provider once...going back and forth to ID a meeting time...then nothing...then 6 hours later she picks up the convo. Meantime I moved meetings so I could be free to when I thought she'd be free (but wasn't 100% sure because she stopped responding, but she said she was free all day). Then She said sorry I have a prebook in the morning then can you do afternoon? 6 hours later, after juggling my schedule and i had to fly out in the afternoon. By then too late to book a morning. Wasn't happy have not seen since.

 

[thumper18474]

Had that happen to me as well . I get a text from a girl and I respond very quickly . She doesn't have to wait long for my text . So when I'm waiting for a text back to me it could 45 mins before I get one . Why bother texting me if you can't reply in a timely manner . I just don't get it .

Cus shes farming her contacts list
She'll go thru all her contacts..send the hi text...and then respond to who is gonna get her the most for doing the least

 

[Jasmina]

You are not entitled to "real time conversations" whenever you feel like it. She is a provider, not your girlfriend, not your friend, she has a whole life outside of you and your needs. Yowser.

I also think ghosting is unacceptable behaviour, but I see a number of SPs doing it (both in their professional and personal lives) and they seem to think it's normal and acceptable. I wonder if it's partly a generational thing.

I think it's disrespectful, rude, and cowardly. Imagine just bailing in the middle of a conversation! No "gotta go" or "bye/ttyl". Just leave you hanging with no idea of what happened. WTF!

I have a regular SP who used to bail in the middle of text chats. Suddenly there would be silence, and later when I'd ask she'd say "Oh I decided to put my phone away and do something else."

REALLY?!? In the middle of an active real-time conversation???

I called her on it after several such occurrences, as well as several occurrences of same day rescheduling of multi-hour dates, and we nearly broke contact. She apologized and has done better since then, but I'm wary of her taking me for granted and service going downhill because I'm generally pretty laid back and accommodating.

So No to ghosting! Be better people. Your conversation partner deserves conversational closure!

 

[Charlemagne]

All the assholes do it. They tend to be good looking alpha males that have no problem getting women, which is why they do it.

 

[Smallcock]

I always ghost. It's easier and it really makes no difference to them in the end. Whether you're a good guy or a bad guy, you're always a bad guy.

"He treated me like dirt screw him!

He’s too nice I don’t want him!"

Once you've taken the redpill, there's no going back.

 

[kherg007]

You are not entitled to "real time conversations" whenever you feel like it. She is a provider, not your girlfriend, not your friend, she has a whole life outside of you and your needs. Yowser.

That is correct. However, we may differ on what is a 'conversation'. If it is a 'hi how are you?' Just to chat - i totally agree. But if it is a quick back back and forth to identify a meeting time - that is different. Or to clarify. That's how I meant it in my post. For example : "Are you free tomorrow morning before noon?" "Yes" "Do you have time for a 90 minute meeting sometime after 8am but no later than 10am?" "Yes". "Great! I could start as early as 8am. What time would work for you?" Then.....nothing for 6 hours. (Ps it was a reg so no introduction needed).

I wonder if it is a young person thing. W one of my kids (late teen then) in JFK airport...can't find him..."where are you?" "In line" "where?" "At gate" "which gate?" "The flight gate" "which gate number?" Etc etc.

 

[John Henry]

All the assholes do it. They tend to be good looking alpha males that have no problem getting women, which is why they do it.

I hate to think what you call the ladies who do this . Would the ladies be classified as assholes if they do it . If so than I know a few ladies that are assholes according to your way of thinking .

 

[John Henry]

You are not entitled to "real time conversations" whenever you feel like it. She is a provider, not your girlfriend, not your friend, she has a whole life outside of you and your needs. Yowser.

Someday that post is going to bite you in the butt . When a lady complains about a client he can say .....you are not my girlfriend , you are not my friend even though many providers have great friendships with some clients . I have a life outside of you and your needs honey .

Not entitled to real time conversation . FINE . Then when a lady comes to my place I expect her to be on her knees or on her back the entire time . No yap yap at all because that's not what she's being be paid for . Would that be OK with you . You are being paid to entertain me . Nothing else .

Put it this way . A lady trying to strike up a conversation while being paid is stealing time from the client when she could be doing other things . See this is what you get when you make a dumb post like that . You are a Provider , not my girlfriend not my friend and I have a life outside of you and your needs so start what you are being paid for and provide for my needs . Nasty way of thinking is it not .

The way you're writing it's like the client is nothing but a banking machine so intern it's OK for the client to think of the lady as a piece of meat .

 

[Smallcock]

I hate to think what you call the ladies who do this . Would the ladies be classified as assholes if they do it . If so than I know a few ladies that are assholes according to your way of thinking .

It's just modern 'dating' life. Cinderella has been replaced with Tinderella. The romance and long-term relationships are gone but the sex remains.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/ejvsoz/tinderella/