GFE/PSE - Still viable?

[CanuckSoldier]

Just want to shine my 2 sense & a different perspective!
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You said:
“And sadly in many cases SP will say they do X, Y and Z and when you get there they back out”
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It’s understandable why you wouldn’t wanna see the person again if they denied you a service and I am absolutely not taking that point away from you love!
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hwoever another perspective would be a lot of the times providers may deny a specific service due to lack of hygiene, lack of respect or over all didn’t feel the vibe was there. I find all three to be important in having a great session which many providers can agree on. So definitely talk to the provider and ask why the change of heart. every provider is different so once again communication is key. Hope you find a good fish in the sea soon!

Yes I totally get the hygiene issue, if fact I've been tempted to state that to a few posters here when they state a lady won't dfk or bbbj.....when they have done that for me.... But it would likely start a flame war here I'm a guy that always brushes his teeth and has a shower before coming over, and if a SP still wants me to have a shower I don't have an issue with that. So when I made the above statement, for me its not hygene, sadly its just sketchy providers trying to use any excuse to kick you out and keep the money.....it happens a lot here in Ottawa sadly.

Cheers

 

[Prettyyy.Princess]

Another problem is tgat some providers get offended when clients ask "do you offer X,Y, or Z?". They feel like tgey are being treated like a menu and would rather the experience hapoen organically. But when it goes south, sone get pissed that the clients didnt ask in advacr and thus ruined the experience. Just follow Twitter and you will see what iam saying.

Many providers who have been in the industry before me have told me that some providers dont specify due to the fact that “selling 53x being illegal”. Collectively all providers can agree we do not always know who is texting us. Example's being: sometimes it’s a under cover popo lol, sometimes it’s people from the sex trafficking department making sure we’re not a minor or being forced to do work (that’s if you’re new or look like a minor.), sometimes it’s a real pimp, sometimes it’s clients and sometimes it even is minors. What you as a client can do is just be straight forward from “hello - how are you I was wondering if you offered the following…” proceed to ask if they provide the following. Then go from there. Some providers will send an organized menu and some will just say “yes, yes, yes but no to blah blah blah.” And other won’t respond. All providers work so differently. You as client just have to go through a bunch of trial and error till you find your one true gem & hey you always have terb behind you if you ever get curious about a provider.

 

[bloodless]

hygiene is definitely important.
if i see someone, and then notice her teeth are horrible and stained, or worse, i get the impression that she is not clean.
straight white teeth and good dental hygiene makes a person look healthy.
not only is it attractive, but it makes me trust her cleanliness in other ways too, because she obviously cares about her body.
i recall one woman this summer who kept trying to kiss with me during our encounter, but when i saw her mouth and teeth i was turned off completely and kept having to find ways to not engage in kissing throughout, because she was very persistent, lol.
lastly, i had an extremely enjoyable encounter 2 weeks ago.
the biggest reason i chose to see her was actually her photos, specifically one where she had a beautiful smile, and nice, straight teeth.
i saw her, and was not disappointed.
i felt super comfortable kissing and lfk and dfk with her as a result.
long post, but simply yes hygiene is important.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

Some History on GFE:
I was one of the first to use the term GFE back in the days of 300 baud dial-up packet readers before websites, but just the old alt.sex.prostitution "Usenet" group. It had nothing to do with sex. It was more a human connection of intimacy, even if just for an hour with an escort - like I describe on my lovetouch.info site.

However, in later decades it got perverted to be related to specific sex acts (and illegal in the US) or unsafe sex which I would never indulge in.

I know I am odd, but I have always enjoyed more sensual, caring intimacy, openness, and personality but hard to find these days in reviews that are just about sex acts. I am odd and unusual I realize; I have never even liked oral. When I give, I feel I need a snorkel. Maybe just not trained well, but can't teach this old dog new tricks, and I enjoy sensual sexuality in different ways. And for the last few decades, in Canada vs. the US.

While on the old ways- amazing, all that is done by text these days. Back a few decades many Phoenix companions insisted on hearing the potential customer on the phone, talking to him a little bit to get a feel of how comfortable she felt with him. This was just considered good screening, not perfect, but often they could detect a jerk they didn't want to have as a client.

Obviously, in the US, no money can be discussed related to a sex act, only companionship; nude is ok. (Phoenix was ground zero, and I followed many court cases) and how dumb many guys are even if the fake escort is a cop and makes it clear she is under age 18 - a minor, and they still show up and are busted for serious child prostitution charges. These stings are now are frequent in many US cities.

Slightly topic but in another thread (where it was also off the original topic) Prettyyy.Princess had a great discussion about bad clients and how it is hard to know about them.

In Phoenix, in the old days, many escorts would never meet a new client without a reference of another escort or "special procedures" if a prospect didn't have a referral. Escorts would contact each other to vouch for clients. This was more for legal risks, with our lots of stings, and for felonies, if assisted in any way (which closed down all our local boards) Agencies, and their workers faced up to 80 years in prison as participants in a criminal enterprise, but the same would seem to be a way to protect against bad clients in Canada.

 

[joedrake]

Some History on GFE:
I was one of the first to use the term GFE back in the days of 300 baud dial-up packet readers before websites, but just the old alt.sex.prostitution "Usenet" group. It had nothing to do with sex. It was more a human connection of intimacy, even if just for an hour with an escort - like I describe on my lovetouch.info site.

However, in later decades it got perverted to be related to specific sex acts (and illegal in the US) or unsafe sex which I would never indulge in.

I know I am odd, but I have always enjoyed more sensual, caring intimacy, openness, and personality but hard to find these days in reviews that are just about sex acts. I am odd and unusual I realize; I have never even liked oral. When I give, I feel I need a snorkel. Maybe just not trained well, but can't teach this old dog new tricks, and I enjoy sensual sexuality in different ways. And for the last few decades, in Canada vs. the US.

While on the old ways- amazing, all that is done by text these days. Back a few decades many Phoenix companions insisted on hearing the potential customer on the phone, talking to him a little bit to get a feel of how comfortable she felt with him. This was just considered good screening, not perfect, but often they could detect a jerk they didn't want to have as a client.

Obviously, in the US, no money can be discussed related to a sex act, only companionship; nude is ok. (Phoenix was ground zero, and I followed many court cases) and how dumb many guys are even if the fake escort is a cop and makes it clear she is under age 18 - a minor, and they still show up and are busted for serious child prostitution charges. These stings are now are frequent in many US cities.

Slightly topic but in another thread (where it was also off the original topic) Prettyyy.Princess had a great discussion about bad clients and how it is hard to know about them.

In Phoenix, in the old days, many escorts would never meet a new client without a reference of another escort or "special procedures" if a prospect didn't have a referral. Escorts would contact each other to vouch for clients. This was more for legal risks, with our lots of stings, and for felonies, if assisted in any way (which closed down all our local boards) Agencies, and their workers faced up to 80 years in prison as participants in a criminal enterprise, but the same would seem to be a way to protect against bad clients in Canada.

This brings back many memories from back in the day when I was living in the States. Times have definitely changed.