GFE or SAFE?

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rubyrai

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I would love to get opinions from the gentlemen here about preference when it comes to choosing a service provider :)

Are you more inclined to call up a service provider that offers a FULL gfe experience or one that offers SAFE full service?

I've always enjoyed pretty much 98% of my encounters because I felt safer with the guy wearing a hat through ALL the experiences. Even though there was no kissing, except at the V, we both left the time together feeling fully satisfied.

Do you feel like there's less of a risk catching something, when seeing a girl that is safe fs, or does that not really cross your minds?

Ruby Rai formerly Velvet Touch
 
rubyrai said:
I would love to get opinions from the gentlemen here about preference when it comes to choosing a service provider :)
Are you more inclined to call up a service provider that offers a FULL gfe experience or one that offers SAFE full service?
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Absolutely SAFE I respect myself and women too much for anything else.

BTW pardon if you have heard my sermon before, but depends on what you mean by GFE. I was one of the first to coin it on the sex.alt/prostitution newsgroup before there were website using 300 baud dial up packet readers. It meant a emotional connection depper intimacy for the moment and had nothing to do with unsafe sex acts. or any spefically sexual.

End of sermon not will pass the offering plate
 
rubyrai said:
Hi Dave!
From what I recall GFE was used mostly with ladies that did bbbj, kissing etc. I dunno what catagory cim and all that falls into these days, but basically to me safe is everything covered and no kissing
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I was referring to the original definition, not after some folks changed it years later. and now it means different things to different people. It meant nothing like above originally.
 
rubyrai said:
I would love to get opinions from the gentlemen here about preference when it comes to choosing a service provider :)

Are you more inclined to call up a service provider that offers a FULL gfe experience or one that offers SAFE full service?

I've always enjoyed pretty much 98% of my encounters because I felt safer with the guy wearing a hat through ALL the experiences. Even though there was no kissing, except at the V, we both left the time together feeling fully satisfied.

Do you feel like there's less of a risk catching something, when seeing a girl that is safe fs, or does that not really cross your minds?

Ruby Rai formerly Velvet Touch
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My experience. With just safe service you can't stay too long in this business. It's not the 90's anymore. The internet is full of free porn. The men has different needs. Yes you get clients when you start, but after a few months, maybe a year, they just stop to visit you, except if you are one of the most beautiful girl on the planet. :)
Then they buy you as a dream. Someone like this beauty Barbara Palvin. :)

 
It's a given that CFS still remains the expectation - as a hobbyist I'd say all-safe services is just not the expectation nowadays - it's still entirely legit to offer, but as she said, the SP has to be pretty special for that to fly. In smaller cities, that could still be do-able, but not in a major market like TO or MTL - BBBJ isn't quite a standard, but CBJ is more and more the minority of preferred service.
 
For me, don't really care if BJ is covered or not, but when I see an ad that says "safe" I always ask if kissing in on the menu, you never know what the SP's definition includes/excludes. If kissing is not on the menu, it's a deal breaker for me. And I don't like it much when the SP says it's on the menu, but then won't kiss during the actual encounter. Nothing leads to a negative review faster than not delivering what's been agreed to.
 
drstrangelove said:
For me, don't really care if BJ is covered or not, but when I see an ad that says "safe" I always ask if kissing in on the menu, you never know what the SP's definition includes/excludes. If kissing is not on the menu, it's a deal breaker for me. And I don't like it much when the SP says it's on the menu, but then won't kiss during the actual encounter. Nothing leads to a negative review faster than not delivering what's been agreed to.
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Ah that's interesting! So suppose she does bbbj for you, but had a client an hr before too....does the previous bbbj she did run through your head when you go for the kiss?
 
rubyrai said:
Ah that's interesting! So suppose she does bbbj for you, but had a client an hr before too....does the previous bbbj she did run through your head when you go for the kiss?
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I'm a little confused - is it the time line ? Any hot girl you are dating could have given multiple BBBJ's to different guys before you. Most SP girls shower and use mouthwash after a session but if you want to be safe - wear a condom for everything.

rubyrai said:
From what I recall GFE was used mostly with ladies that did bbbj, kissing etc. I dunno what catagory cim and all that falls into these days, but basically to me safe is everything covered and no kissing
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That is my understanding - is there a different meaning out there ?
 
Rubyrai, for me GFE means kissing, cuddling, some sense of intimacy, often BBBJ. SAFE is a flexible term but for me it means covered FS, that is something I would clarify with an SP before it was an unfortunate experience as she meant more by SAFE than I do.
 
Ive never repeated with a sp that didnt dfk. Bbbj isnt super important to me but if a sp only did lfk/no kissing and cbj, Id not see them unless they were really hot. Some sps will explicitly tell you theyll do dfk and bbbj if youre a regular though.
 
GFE to me means DFK, bbbj (without CIM), daty/dato or 69 and CFS.
Like someone else, I've never repeated with a girl who did cbj.

I had one agency girl, new and on a new Promo, saved $10.
She insisted on cbj, I told her all the girls do bbbj. She texted the agency and came bac and gave me a further $20 back.
She not there anymore.
 
Dude I get you are new and that experience sounds like it sucked but maybe put in that SP thread or a Mirage thread in her Incall Forum. This post won't help anyone else searching for that SP's review or Mirage in general.
 
rubyrai said:
I would love to get opinions from the gentlemen here about preference when it comes to choosing a service provider :)

Are you more inclined to call up a service provider that offers a FULL gfe experience or one that offers SAFE full service?

I've always enjoyed pretty much 98% of my encounters because I felt safer with the guy wearing a hat through ALL the experiences. Even though there was no kissing, except at the V, we both left the time together feeling fully satisfied.

Do you feel like there's less of a risk catching something, when seeing a girl that is safe fs, or does that not really cross your minds?

Ruby Rai formerly Velvet Touch
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If there is no kissing allowed that is an automatic no way I will see you. Everyone has their own definition of gfe and mine is lots of dfk, daty, bbbj/cim a must with swallow preferred but optional. If bbbj and or cim is offered at an upcharge, that's a deal breaker as well. There are enough other ladies to see that offer what I want and I expect the best value for my money, not your mileage may very.
 
rubyrai said:
Ah that's interesting! So suppose she does bbbj for you, but had a client an hr before too....does the previous bbbj she did run through your head when you go for the kiss?
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Ruby, this hobby is not for those who are very concerned about sloppy seconds...
 
Mr. Piggy said:
If there is no kissing allowed that is an automatic no way I will see you. Everyone has their own definition of gfe and mine is lots of dfk, daty, bbbj/cim a must with swallow preferred but optional. If bbbj and or cim is offered at an upcharge, that's a deal breaker as well. There are enough other ladies to see that offer what I want and I expect the best value for my money, not your mileage may very.
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I charge a little extra for cim but not because I m money hungry. I just don't want to charge 300 for someone who doesn't need cim service. It's unfair to charge pse price when someone interested only gfe. That's why my upcharge. Technically I save 50$ for my all gfe clients.
 
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