GFE: Definition

[Snake Pliskin]

Characterizing a person as either GFE OR PSE is too limited, and doesn't allow for how she may respond differently to different clients. Don't you chat for a while first? What if you make that "connection", and get that girlfriend feeling? And then, you get to the bedroom, and have some awesome crazy sex. Does that mean that the connection never happened? Does it invalidate that feeling? When Dani (or other SP's) says everything is on the menu, that doesn't mean she won't be one of the most likeable women you've ever been with!

Its easy to compare a definition of skills sets only. It gets hard when you try to add feelings to the comparison. Isn't the best a GFE+PSE? Great sex with a great lady?

IMO.

 

[gabe-reardon]

gfe

I think gfe is important to clarify as i think weve all found so many sp's over the years that arn't, (pre terb and allisons angels i may add), i dont think bbbj is absolutely essential, (but nice) but dfk most definately is, without that i think a service can be cold and unpersonal,

i not so long ago met someone from executive choice, a last minute call in with a business associate,( they actually arrived in 30 mins from our call,) who woultn't dfk, bbbj or even cbj (tooth ache !), no daty (bad timing) and no missionary (has hip lock)., oh an carefull with the nipples, recently pierced, needless to say i dont even remember her name and couldnt wait for her to leave, my associates time was even worse believe it or not. well stick with the tried and true services and book with a little notice


just my 10 cents +gst

 

[George OTJ]

Characterizing a person as either GFE OR PSE is too limited, and doesn't allow for how she may respond differently to different clients. Don't you chat for a while first? What if you make that "connection",

Trying to characterize any human being with a single term is too limited - Human Beings are too complex for that. Making a 'connection' has nothing to do with GFE/PSE. Making a 'connection' simple means that you -to some degree- are comfortable and can relate to each other.

And then, you get to the bedroom, and have some awesome crazy sex. Does that mean that the connection never happened? Does it invalidate that feeling?

'awsome crazy sex' to me means PSE. If you'd said 'awsome sex' then it could go either way or neither.
- It doesn't invalidate the connection or invalidate the feeling. The ladies attitude/preferences towards sex doesn't change her attitude/preferences for her partner.

When Dani (or other SP's) says everything is on the menu, that doesn't mean she won't be one of the most likeable women you've ever been with!

I absolutely agree with you!! The ladies personality (ie likeability) has nothing to do with the services she is offering or how she provides those services. That is why 'likeablity' should not be part of the GFE definition. PSEs can be just as likeable; as can Dominatrixs. "Likeablity" pertains to the person not the performance.

Its easy to compare a definition of skills sets only. It gets hard when you try to add feelings to the comparison. Isn't the best a GFE+PSE? Great sex with a great lady?

But the problem is, how do you define 'Great sex'? You can't define 'Great Sex' by using two undefined terms:GFE and PSE. And you won't be able to define great sex because there are too many variations on what the guys are looking for: what turns them on and what turns them off.

Characterizing a person as either GFE OR PSE is too limited

When I think of GFE vs PSE, I don't see them as describing the WHOLE experience - that is what the reviews are for. GFE/PSE only describes one aspect of the encounter. I think the reason there is no agreement on what the term means is because too many posters -like Snake- try to use it to describe the entire experience.

There are a lot of different things that can go into whether you had a great time or a losy time. IMHO, GFE/PSE should have nothing to do with:
- whether the girl is likable or not (too many variables)
- how well you 'connect' with the lady (again, too many variables)
- whether she is a slim hotty or BBW (different aspect)
- whether she is young, middle aged, or old (different aspect)
- whether she is white, black, asian, latina, or other (different aspect)
- whether she has As, Bs, Cs, Ds or DDs (different aspect)
- whether she's a university grad or grade school drop out

P.S. Snake, I used you in the reference above simply because I'd quoted your post. It's not ment as a criticism or challenge; and I'd certain hadn't meant to slight Dani in any way; if anyone had taken it that way.

 

[Snake Pliskin]

my picture of a GFE - which is a gentler, more intimate experience.

How do you expect to have an intimate experience with someone whom you don't connect with, and don't find likable (per your last post)?

When I said that characterizing a person as GFE or PSE is too limited, I meant that you can't label an experience as one or the other (depending on your definition). You quoted me, but then said that I describe the experience using one term or the other! You've misunderstood my post, and described me in a manner that is not true.

I stand firm by my opinion that you can have an intimate experience (GFE by your definition), regardless of the physical acts involved, or the online reputation of the person involved.

I do agree with you, that without defining whether GFE refers to specific services (DFK, BBBJ, easily quantified) vs a "feeling" (connection, likability, difficult to quantify), there will be no agreement on the definition of the term.

 

[George OTJ]

Snake, it seems you've also missunderstood my post, but it doesn't really matter. With some of the posts on the thread "A GFE is not", I've come to the realization that I'm the one who seems to be out-of-step with the others.

By 'intimate relationship' I was thinking of GFE as more of a 'seduction' with lots of kissing, cuddling, caressing; rather then 'awsome crazy sex'. As for 'connecting', well we all know some ladies are better at acting then others. I also think that for 1st time encounters, it is rare to get either because usually takes more then one visit to become really comforatble with each other.

Anyway, I've come to the conclusion that 'GFE' as used on this board seems to have little difference to a PSE - I guess mabe because most guys want their girl friends to act like porn stars in the bedroom. As there are so many variations on what guy's want from their girl friends, I'm joiningg the ranks that advocate the term GFE be discontinued as it is usless and meanlingless. With so many variations there is nothing to distinguish a GFE from a PSE.

 

[CyberGoth]

forgot to mention that "warm fuzzy happy" feeling one gets with a nice GFE.

 

[twobigo]

forgot to mention that "warm fuzzy happy" feeling one gets with a nice GFE.

isn,t that just something dripping down the side of your inner thigh? Sorry just being a smart ass!

 

[The Oracle]

Huh.....what does the last post have to do with anything.

 

[Noir]

Mods?

lol..absolutely nothing.

SPAMBOTS! (noticing a few here on the site. This one and one in the BDSM section..)