Getting ripped off by extreme fitness

hunter001

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I am still confused. You said they are charging you for private training sessions and not the membership. Which is it? At some point wouldn't the private sessions be paid off (even if you already paid for them)?
 

squash500

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Hybridel said:
I know they have a copy of this letter... one of the managers I spoke with pulled up my file, and he admitted that yes I did cancel.. but I had to speak with someone else.

Worst comes to worst, I'm flying back to Toronto on my days off, and I'm not leaving until I get a copy.

I realize getting my $ back for the fraudulent charges won't happen... but that's my fault for losing the paper, all I want is for the charges to stop
I realize that you now live in Alberta. IMHO you might be able to get some of your money back by taking Extreme fitness to small claims court. IMHO the manager admitted that you cancelled. Maybe you can hire a paralegal or something to represent you in small claims court?

I know exactly what you're going through. I used to be a member of a Toronto Bally's fitness location. Once I heard this location was being taken over by Extreme I immediately cancelled my membership. Simply put I heard such bad horror stories from friends of mine who were Extreme members that I refused to give Extreme my continued business.
 

squash500

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hunter001 said:
I am still confused. You said they are charging you for private training sessions and not the membership. Which is it? At some point wouldn't the private sessions be paid off (even if you already paid for them)?

Good point. What I don't understand is why the OP is still being charged for personal training sessions if he already paid for them:confused: ?

IMHO personal training sessions and membership fees are seperate issues.
 

Hybridel

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I just learned today ( after talking to a manager ) that they are charging me for PT sessions. He wouldn't get into details, since I had to talk to the training manager ( who of course wasn't available )

My contract consisted of a 1 year membership... and 15 PT sessions.

the gym was $76/month
and PT was $106.74/session

I paid for 3 sessions up front, as I wanted both my membership and PT sessions to be paid at the same time.


For whatever reason unknown to me, they are still charging me for PT sessions AFTER my membership was canceled. The original slip I got when I canceled showed that there was nothing outstanding.

I'm going to try calling this training manager again, and if he can't resolve this issue over the phone.. then I'm flying back to Ontario on my days off.. and I won't leave until I get a copy of that cancellation letter
 

The LoLRus

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Hybridel said:
I just learned today ( after talking to a manager ) that they are charging me for PT sessions. He wouldn't get into details, since I had to talk to the training manager ( who of course wasn't available )

My contract consisted of a 1 year membership... and 15 PT sessions.
Thats total bullshit!! I bet they never told you about these "private training" sessions, correct??
This is a scam, its their way of getting to charge you more on top of your regular 1-year membership.

Take them to SC court, a judge will award you your refund in 5 minutes
 

larry

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This won't matter to the OP, but maybe to others. I've joined Fitness 365 on Ronson a couple of times over the last 3 years. Paid cash. when my time is up, it's up. That's it. No calls. No credit charges. I'll join again in November for cash. These are the type of gyms to supoort. Are there any others like this in Toronto?
 

squash500

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Hybridel said:
I just learned today ( after talking to a manager ) that they are charging me for PT sessions. He wouldn't get into details, since I had to talk to the training manager ( who of course wasn't available )

My contract consisted of a 1 year membership... and 15 PT sessions.

the gym was $76/month
and PT was $106.74/session

I paid for 3 sessions up front, as I wanted both my membership and PT sessions to be paid at the same time.


For whatever reason unknown to me, they are still charging me for PT sessions AFTER my membership was canceled. The original slip I got when I canceled showed that there was nothing outstanding.

I'm going to try calling this training manager again, and if he can't resolve this issue over the phone.. then I'm flying back to Ontario on my days off.. and I won't leave until I get a copy of that cancellation letter
IMHO, they're just trying to jerk you around. What authority could the training manager actually have:confused: ? I would call Extreme head office if I was in your position. I think Extreme head office is based out of Thornhill.

If you google Extreme fitness then the head office number might be on one of the links. Look for links that are dealing with disgruntled customers!
 

spankingman

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Get a hold of PETER SILVERMAN at CITY TV He has a show SILVERMAN HELPS

Im sure he could assist you.He LOVES stuff like this.!!
 

Cobster

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spankingman said:
Get a hold of PETER SILVERMAN at CITY TV He has a show SILVERMAN HELPS

Im sure he could assist you.He LOVES stuff like this.!!
Even Silerman could use Silverman, he was fired by CityTV over a year ago.
 

hunter001

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spankingman said:
Get a hold of PETER SILVERMAN at CITY TV He has a show SILVERMAN HELPS

Im sure he could assist you.He LOVES stuff like this.!!
Silverman was sacked sometime last year.
 

squash500

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Guys - As many have noted, this is the oldest scam in the book. I would never, ever, buy a gym membership via pre-authorized payments or credit card ... just tell the manager you'll pay 1 year up-front, or 6 months up-front, or you'll walk. Then give them cash and be done with it.

Cuts the bullshit, gives you the real all-in price, and prevents them from having any access to your account.

When they ask why, just tell them the truth - "you guys have ripped off a lot of my friends, and I don't want you to have my bank account".

In general, EVEN well known insurance companies, telephone companies, etc rip people off with pre-authorized payments and credit billing ... don't do it unless you absolutely have no other choice.

I agree with you. The only problem with paying cash upfront is that if the club goes out of business after for example only 3 months then you are out all that cash with no recourse.

I think the monthly fees at Extreme are $96 + GST=approx $101 x 12 months=$1212.
 

Moraff

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Hybridel said:
I just learned today ( after talking to a manager ) that they are charging me for PT sessions. He wouldn't get into details, since I had to talk to the training manager ( who of course wasn't available )

My contract consisted of a 1 year membership... and 15 PT sessions.

the gym was $76/month
and PT was $106.74/session

I paid for 3 sessions up front, as I wanted both my membership and PT sessions to be paid at the same time.


For whatever reason unknown to me, they are still charging me for PT sessions AFTER my membership was canceled. The original slip I got when I canceled showed that there was nothing outstanding.
Question: Did you get the 15 PT sessions? IIRC when I belonged to a gym and purchased some training sessions I got the sessions up front, but was able to spread the payments over a number of months. If that's what's happened in your case then that would be why you're still getting dinged for payments even after your membership was canceled.
 

SilentLeviathan

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Sam Rothstein said:
I am thinking of joining a gym, does anyne know a way to pay them that will not end up including them in my will 50 years later!
I just pay for everything up front with a debit card.
 

Hybridel

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larry said:
This won't matter to the OP, but maybe to others. I've joined Fitness 365 on Ronson a couple of times over the last 3 years. Paid cash. when my time is up, it's up. That's it. No calls. No credit charges. I'll join again in November for cash. These are the type of gyms to supoort. Are there any others like this in Toronto?
Fitness Connection on Donmills/Eglinton does this, I told them I wanted to pay for the year up front with cash, and they allowed it.


The headoffice for extreme IS Thornhill (the location that is ripping me off)
After a week or so of calling every day, I've given up... the training manager is nowhere to be found, I just keep getting pawned off from one person to another then to voicemail.

A friend of mine who is in law school is going in tomorrow on my behalf, and if that doesn't work then I'll be flying back to Ontario on my days off and contacting a lawyer.
 

bankerboy80

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Hybridel said:
I signed a 1 year contract, and purchased some training sessions.

the sessions were paid for when my membership expired, since I wasn't very happy with the gym I canceled the membership.

I went in, talked to a sales person who referred me to a manager that asked me why i was leaving etc etc.

I signed a paper saying effective immediately my membership would be canceled.


I moved to Alberta, and have since then misplaced the paper I got from the gym when I left ( my fault... but I didn't think a big company like extreme would openly rip people off )

Anyways, TD Visa says theres nothing they can do in terms of stopping the payments, let alone refund my money unless I can find this paper, or somehow get the gym to cough up another copy ( ya right )


after looking at that google link, it looks like I'm not the only one... and the BBB is aware, but has yet to do anything. How does a company get away with robbing people like this?

Looks like my only option is reporting my card as lost, and/or demanding a new card #

If I have to fly all the hell way back to Toronto to get this sorted out, it isn't going to be pretty


edit- found this link, http://www.gov.on.ca/mgs/en/ConsProt/STEL02_168949.html
but since I'm lacking proof of my cancellation.. looks like it's going to be a pain in the ass to stop the charges, let alone get my $ back
Reporting your card stolen will not do anything more then a registered letter to the Extreme plus you have to go through the hassle of updating any pre-authorized debits with the new number.

Type up a letter that clearly states you want to cancel immediately and I would also reference in the letter that this is your second request. Then send it registered and print off the confirmation once it is received.
 

squash500

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Hybridel said:
Fitness Connection on Donmills/Eglinton does this, I told them I wanted to pay for the year up front with cash, and they allowed it.


The headoffice for extreme IS Thornhill (the location that is ripping me off)
After a week or so of calling every day, I've given up... the training manager is nowhere to be found, I just keep getting pawned off from one person to another then to voicemail.

A friend of mine who is in law school is going in tomorrow on my behalf, and if that doesn't work then I'll be flying back to Ontario on my days off and contacting a lawyer.
IMHO you're doing the right thing:) . Don't let Extreme get away with it.
 

thewalker

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Fuck health clubs, go out and play tennis or jog or bike in the fresh air free of charge.
 

dirkd101

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This is something that has been going on in the fitness industry for years, it's nothing new. When you sign up it pays to read the fine print! Know where you stand before putting pen to paper. Know what they can charge for and what methods of payment are open to you, can you pay in advance without use of a credit card? The biggest issue is the one you are facing, when you cancel your membership, what steps you need to take, what sort of charges are there when canceling membership and the paper trail you need to prove you canceled said membership.
I went through this years ago, but I was fortunate I knew my rights and always paid in advance with cash and never left a credit card account number with them.
 

Serpent

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Is the cancellation at Extreme immediate or is a 30 day notice thing from the day you send the letter?
 
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