Gender Equity Remuneration

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I think gender equity remuneration is very fair when men and women compete against each other in sports like horse and auto racing.

I think gender equity remuneration is unfair in sports like tennis and soccer where women compete only against other women and the women draw a smaller audience and generate lower revenue.

I think there are women in some universities who demand the same financial support for their sports as men when it is men's football and basketball that generate almost all the revenue.
 
They don’t demand it in collegiate sports. They arent paid. But Title 9 legislation in the US requires universities to fund athletic scholarships on more or less an equal footing. So the resultnis thatbthebmassive football programs, and the big basketball schools, are ablento generate revenue so that all the women playing volleyball, field hockey, swimming, soccer, track, ping pong, you name it can get really great scholarships. And I dont have a problem with that. It is a great idea for equity. What I have a problem with is those very same major programs telling the males after 4 years of essentially being full time pros that they are done and goodbye...without a degree. Women getbteir degrees when on scholarships. The men dont. Dramatically different graduation rates. So the football and basketbal factories should provide two more years of education in the scholarships so that these young men are given an opportunity to refocus and get that education.
 
Like the Women's National Basketball League. Since its inception over 20 years ago, it's lost millions every single year, yet the players complain about low salaries. In what business can you even expect to get paid when the business is losing money?

That's like me complaining that it's unfair that female sex workers easily make thousands of dollars a week while I can't make a penny offering my sexual services to women.
 
Female movie stars often complain they are paid less than men. The reality is that movie making is a business and whoever brings in the bigger audience gets the bigger paycheque. I know, I know, it is so unfair.

On the other hand, I think many female singers have big paydays. Madonna, Perry, Grande(sp), Lady Gaga, etc.
 
Dcoat said:
Do male actors in the porn film business complain that they aren't getting the same as the women?
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I think male actors in porn would do it for free.

Anyway, I was referring to real actors. I think at the top end, male actors still get more than females. I remember Mark Walberg got paid much more than Michelle Williams in that Getty movies.
 
I work in a "skirt organization" so if you are female you basically have got a "get out of jail free card" plus you are automatically promoted just for showing up (when not on maternity).
 
There was an article in the news recently about the pay of female soccer players vs male and all I could think of was, Yeah, cuz I'm not interested in watching female soccer.
 
Smallcock said:
Like the Women's National Basketball League. Since its inception over 20 years ago, it's lost millions every single year, yet the players complain about low salaries. In what business can you even expect to get paid when the business is losing money?

That's like me complaining that it's unfair that female sex workers easily make thousands of dollars a week while I can't make a penny offering my sexual services to women.
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Wow. You've finally made a good point. The world must be ending. :)
 
Darts said:
I think male actors in porn would do it for free.

Anyway, I was referring to real actors. I think at the top end, male actors still get more than females. I remember Mark Walberg got paid much more than Michelle Williams in that Getty movies.
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Michelle Williams vs Mark Wahlberg? Is that the hill you'd choose to die on, mate?

As for male porn actors doing it for free. Maybe Joe Schmo who wants to bang his fave porn star, but male porn performers are not willing to do that shit for free, I can tell you that much! lol
 
They should focus during the four years. They get a lot of perks. They can take summer courses and hit the gym while on campus. If they were serious students getting free rides they don’t need extra time.
 
It isn't about gender discrimination at all. Its business and $$$

Group A generates 60% of the revenue related to a professional sporting event

Group B generates 40% of the revenue

Group A receives 60% of the winners pot

Group B receives 40% of the winners pot.

Its that simple, its just business. Group A brings in the most $$, they deserve the bigger share of the winners pot.

As one example, Tennis majors, Group A is the men : Novak, Rafa, Fed account for the biggest portion of television ratings and ticket sales, vs Serena and others on the women side. The women tennis players are great, and Serena is likely the GOAT, however the current big 3 ( 4 when Murray is healthy ) are the big draws and drive the revenue, and as a result get the bigger share of the winners pot.

It just makes sense.

I think Wimbledon recently made them equal, not sure. That is nice for the equality debate however I don't think inequality = gender discrimination.
 
Blade said:
It just makes sense.
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You and I know that but "they" would argue that it is "unfair" and is gender "discrimination".

It's not always just gender, I worked as a busboy and later as a server for a while when I attended university. We were told to put all the tips in a pot and at the end of the night the money was divvy up equally because it was only "fair". So, the piss poor servers got the same amount of money as the excellent servers. Socialism/communism at its best.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/wo...ize-money-increase-gianni-infantino-1.4880490
Ok, so the team gets a pot of money. Do the players share in that pot? If yes, does each player get an equal share? Or, do the better players get more (assuming that some players are better than others)?
 
Captain Marble made $455 million this weekend.

55% of Audience were male, which proofs men will support an event when it's good.

You would also want to see women to be more supportive of each other. But instead it was the guys that were there.

Which probably was more about personal choice than discrimination.......like everything else, it's about choice.
 
Darts said:
I think gender equity remuneration is very fair when men and women compete against each other in sports like horse and auto racing.

I think gender equity remuneration is unfair in sports like tennis and soccer where women compete only against other women and the women draw a smaller audience and generate lower revenue.

I think there are women in some universities who demand the same financial support for their sports as men when it is men's football and basketball that generate almost all the revenue.
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Just shut up and put your skirt on already.....
 
First year working straight out of university a woman at work was arguing that there shouldn't be any segregation in sports. No mens and woman's league. Just one league. Her view was men and women are the same. Men had no advantage in strength. I think she took feminism to the extreme.
 
superstar_88 said:
First year working straight out of university a woman at work was arguing that there shouldn't be any segregation in sports. No mens and woman's league. Just one league. Her view was men and women are the same. Men had no advantage in strength. I think she took feminism to the extreme.
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Wonder what this brilliant woman would say if a female went up against Tyson? I mean, they are just as strong, right?

Men and women arent equal. we have our differences and strengths and weaknesses. Why cant we just utilize these points and run with them? We do have equal points and should be treated the same but there are a lot of differences that you just cant compare.

Some people in this world need to STFU but its our Liberalism that lets them speak freely and the intelligent need to be told they are privileged?????
 
Fathammer said:
Wonder what this brilliant woman would say if a female went up against Tyson? I mean, they are just as strong, right?

Men and women arent equal. we have our differences and strengths and weaknesses. Why cant we just utilize these points and run with them? We do have equal points and should be treated the same but there are a lot of differences that you just cant compare.

Some people in this world need to STFU but its our Liberalism that lets them speak freely and the intelligent need to be told they are privileged?????
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No chief, for the longest time there was a lack of equal opportunities.

See life gives talent without discrimination, but we humans have not for years given equal opportunity.

Additionally a smart person would know that fighters have weight and skill levels.

No fighting organization would let McGregor fight Tyson. Even though Tyson is so much older, because in all likelihood Tyson would kill him.

Fuck I'm in Tyson's weight class love to fight and no fucking for any amount of money get in the rink with him.
 
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