Simply disgusting.....
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...0604/EDM_microwave_080604/20080604?hub=Canada
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...0604/EDM_microwave_080604/20080604?hub=Canada
Future serial killers...?
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gdurham said:
It not what they are missing it is what they have.Access to the same kind of shit on the internet, moment of fame more important then others feelings, thats why I alway watch what my kinds are doing on the internet. btw some porn is better then most of the other shit.IMHO
very disturbing indeed.
I'm in! I can't understand why anyone would find torturing an animal entertaining but I'm willing to test their theories on the people that have commited the original act.papasmerf said:
Kyra_to said:
I can bypass any microwave safety switch and think a couple of hands in there for 90 seconds might be fun
papasmerf said:
Smart man but a bit lenient, I'd be calling for a tougher sentence; after all they listened to the animal scream for over 10min. Personally I'd make one kid put a hand in for 2 min. while the other watches so he can tell me how fun it is. Then he puts his hand in for 4 min. while the other watches telling me about the fun. We alternate going up at 2 minute increments until we reach 10 min. each, by then I might see the fun in it...
though probably not.
Kyra_to said:Smart man but a bit lenient, I'd be calling for a tougher sentence; after all they listened to the animal scream for over 10min. Personally I'd make one kid put a hand in for 2 min. while the other watches so he can tell me how fun it is. Then he puts his hand in for 4 min. while the other watches telling me about the fun. We alternate going up at 2 minute increments until we reach 10 min. each, by then I might see the fun in it...
though probably not.
We need to create something positive out of it, besides the satisfaction of a just punishment. How about taking the little buggers down to city hall and chaining them up. Then bring in a truck of rocks. $1 gets you a rock to throw; $2, 3 rocks... proceeds to the SPCA.
Guys, guys, guys hold on here... I do not condone this behaviour whatsoever, but there are many disturbed kids out there that society has let down before they were even born. FAS is much more common than people realize and it can cause a whole host of problems. These teens could very likely not know right from wrong. An FAS kid often has the mental capacity of a child half their age. This is only one of causes of such behaviour. I see kids everyday where I work who are severely neglected, live with drug using or abusive parents who are constantly in and out of jail. Often these kids grow up in foster care or group homes, where the abuse continues. What happens in the brain that lets one turn bad while others take the right path is still a huge mystery. Lock them up, yes, keep them supervised, yes, but the brutality you all seem to be so quick to endorse doesn't serve as a constructive solution. A society with real courage demands more government money for social workers, Family and Children Services workers and better housing to help break the cycles of poverty and drug addiction that create these situations in the first place.
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/fasd-etcaf/index.html
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/fasd-etcaf/index.html
Betcha they have dumb ass parents who will weep how good their kids are. Forget FAS. We're approaching 7 billion people on earth. Torching a few evil ones isn't going to be missed.
So, no anger issues there. I guess you're in favour of exposing less than perfect children too.rama putri said:
www.wsu.edu/~dee/GREECE/SPARTA.HTM
gdurham said:
They are missing a parent waiting for them at home after school.
The internet and the television are their new parents.
papasmerf said:
Yes, same here... They most definitely would not do something as cruel as this to any form of being, ever again.
TDL2003 said:
In Puritan New England, the stocks were an effective punishment...put them in the stocks for an afternoon in front of City Hall with a sign in front detailing to passersby what they'd done to deserve being put in the stocks. Vendors could sell over ripe fruit from carts nearby. Flies can be a bitc- when one's face is covered in rotten tomato and one can't wipe it off...
Jade4u
It's been good to know ya
1. This day and age you cannot shout at a child, you cannot control your child except to say please and I appreciate. Even the teachers cannot control the children.
2. The entire system has changed there is not special classes in place in all schools for children who need special teaching causing more frustration for a LD (learning disability) leaving a child in care of social workers of the school.
3. Many more children are becoming medicated with pharmecutical drugs that really do not fix the problem only helps eliminate some of the symptoms and often causing other problems to the childs health.
4. Parents get scrutinized for choices they make that they feel are better for a childs welfare by schools bringing about more stresses upon the child.
5. Instead of having things in place for children that have LDS these children are put on long waiting lists to get different services available ie... programs
6. Meanwhile the child starts to act up more in school etc... because of added on stress.
7. Parents are still held accountable for childrens actions, called into schools for meetings, child is talked to by school and parents and/or suspended for a period of time. Remember the child may have a LD. Pulling the child further back instead of ahead.
8. Possibly the act of the child was discussed with social workers or so bad that they called in CAS
9. The fire keeps getting higher and higher and now said child is angry at the school and when goes back does even worse.
10. Parent is considered unable to deal with thier child. Goes to foster home and gets abused, mistreated, hurt from not having the care of a loving parent, the childs world is now turned upside down.
11. Children with LD's do not cope very well with change.
12. Children with LD's often withdraw to hide thier LD's or tend to hang with the wrong crowds to feel accepted.
I found this article showing most children that do crimes are from foster homes.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-07-02-foster-study_N.htm
FAMILY INFLUENCE
Children who stay in troubled families fare better than those put into foster care. Those who:
Were arrested at least once:
• Stayed with family: 14%
• Went to foster care: 44%
Became teen mothers:
• Stayed with family: 33%
• Went to foster care: 56%
Held a job at least 3 months:
• Stayed with family: 33%
• Went to foster care: 20%
Source: Study by Joseph Doyle, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
If these are not children with LD's of some fashion or in some need of help I say yes what they did should be righfully punished. But if these truly are children that have been failed in some way they should get the support and help they need. Like children that are into cutting etc... it could be a cry for help.
There is a good movie called the best little girl in the world that I added to my playlist on youtube for anyone that is interested in watching it. Sometimes children just do things to cry out for help and/or because they wish to hurt they way they have been hurt.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CC2959743F8E6FB4
But above all I do wonder about todays children and todays system if there is too many cut backs, laws preventing control and/or just an over all weak system.
There seems to be too many names for each behaviour of a child these days oppositional defiant disorder, (or whatever it is called) add, addhd and too many learning disorders that many children get catergorized as. Yet things are not inplace in the schools, children are not allowed to be kept back yet years can go by without properly trained teachers to teach each child and/or a teacher who just gets tired of a different child. Children are kept in the same classes with other peers that see these actions and are harrased and teased.
2. The entire system has changed there is not special classes in place in all schools for children who need special teaching causing more frustration for a LD (learning disability) leaving a child in care of social workers of the school.
3. Many more children are becoming medicated with pharmecutical drugs that really do not fix the problem only helps eliminate some of the symptoms and often causing other problems to the childs health.
4. Parents get scrutinized for choices they make that they feel are better for a childs welfare by schools bringing about more stresses upon the child.
5. Instead of having things in place for children that have LDS these children are put on long waiting lists to get different services available ie... programs
6. Meanwhile the child starts to act up more in school etc... because of added on stress.
7. Parents are still held accountable for childrens actions, called into schools for meetings, child is talked to by school and parents and/or suspended for a period of time. Remember the child may have a LD. Pulling the child further back instead of ahead.
8. Possibly the act of the child was discussed with social workers or so bad that they called in CAS
9. The fire keeps getting higher and higher and now said child is angry at the school and when goes back does even worse.
10. Parent is considered unable to deal with thier child. Goes to foster home and gets abused, mistreated, hurt from not having the care of a loving parent, the childs world is now turned upside down.
11. Children with LD's do not cope very well with change.
12. Children with LD's often withdraw to hide thier LD's or tend to hang with the wrong crowds to feel accepted.
I found this article showing most children that do crimes are from foster homes.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-07-02-foster-study_N.htm
FAMILY INFLUENCE
Children who stay in troubled families fare better than those put into foster care. Those who:
Were arrested at least once:
• Stayed with family: 14%
• Went to foster care: 44%
Became teen mothers:
• Stayed with family: 33%
• Went to foster care: 56%
Held a job at least 3 months:
• Stayed with family: 33%
• Went to foster care: 20%
Source: Study by Joseph Doyle, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
If these are not children with LD's of some fashion or in some need of help I say yes what they did should be righfully punished. But if these truly are children that have been failed in some way they should get the support and help they need. Like children that are into cutting etc... it could be a cry for help.
There is a good movie called the best little girl in the world that I added to my playlist on youtube for anyone that is interested in watching it. Sometimes children just do things to cry out for help and/or because they wish to hurt they way they have been hurt.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CC2959743F8E6FB4
But above all I do wonder about todays children and todays system if there is too many cut backs, laws preventing control and/or just an over all weak system.
There seems to be too many names for each behaviour of a child these days oppositional defiant disorder, (or whatever it is called) add, addhd and too many learning disorders that many children get catergorized as. Yet things are not inplace in the schools, children are not allowed to be kept back yet years can go by without properly trained teachers to teach each child and/or a teacher who just gets tired of a different child. Children are kept in the same classes with other peers that see these actions and are harrased and teased.
