Future of South Africa being decided today

[danmand]

If it worked, it wouldn't have gone through more than a decade of war. Obviously some people were not happy, and that was the majority. The majority who had no right to vote and were ruled by an elite white minority. So you can pretend that everything was fine in Rhodesia, but the fact of the matter is, everything was not fine in Rhodesia, otherwise it's majority would have accepted its status as second class citizens.

That is exactly the point I was trying to express. Thank you.
It matters not what people in Europe think is right or wrong. The
more important question was: "Is it a stable situation". Rhodesia
was not, sadly, neither is Mugabe's Zimbabwe.

And all is likewise not well in South Africa, where a small minority of
whites and educated blacks owns all the wealth, while the majority of
the blacks live in abject poverty.

I have seen with my own eyes how the Mbeki government enriched a small
black minority, that is replacing the equally small white minority, while nothing
has been done for the majority of poor blacks. Hence comes Zuma.

 

[FOOTSNIFFER]

I work with a south african who returns there frequently.
He's of the mind that S.A. will eventually 'blow up', as he puts it.
And yet, real estate in S.A. has had the largest gains since 1997 of all industrialized countries...some 300%. I hope they don't squander their potential...it's quite a country.

 

[kl33n]

And what class are they now as they are killed in tribal conflicts or die of starvation in their utopian world.

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Man, you're thick.

Cut the straw man bullshit. I'm not saying they're better off now. Neither situation is acceptable to them or anyone who believes in basic human rights. Whether it's a white elite controlling their country OR a black elite controlling their country, the majority are the ones getting screwed.

In Rhodesia, war was inevitable because the majority did not want to live as second class citizens. The same can now be said about Zimbabwe; the majority will not live in poverty because of it's corrupt leaders. It's not a black or white issue. They deserve better than a choice between white or black corrupt leaders. You seem to think those are the only options they have. Rascist Rhodesia or corrupt Mugabe. I believe they deserve better.

 

[LancsLad]

Man, you're thick.

Cut the straw man bullshit. I'm not saying they're better off now. Neither situation is acceptable to them or anyone who believes in basic human rights. Whether it's a white elite controlling their country OR a black elite controlling their country, the majority are the ones getting screwed.

In Rhodesia, war was inevitable because the majority did not want to live as second class citizens. The same can now be said about Zimbabwe; the majority will not live in poverty because of it's corrupt leaders. It's not a black or white issue. They deserve better than a choice between white or black corrupt leaders. You seem to think those are the only options they have. Rascist Rhodesia or corrupt Mugabe. I believe they deserve better.

Perhaps they do but how do they get it.

By dint of effort or as a gift from the benevolent knobs at the UN.

Under the old Rhodesian system they at least had jobs food and security. Doesn't seem to be much of that under the current system.