Frustrated and depressed

ggaleazz

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Reading Picard's threads I thought I'd finally post this.

After spending the better part of 25 years not having any female relationships, I've been both frustrated and confused by my utter lack of success with the female of the species. Not just sexually but overall, including relationships. Aside from less than a handfull of meetings that are barely considered dates. I've had absolutly no experience with females, and I've begun to think that it is affecting my attempts at meeting woman in the present. Not that I assume that all woman my age (26) have had sex but they've most likely been in 1 or 2 relationships. I often wonder if the fact that I've never been that I somehow don't know how to deal with woman, and/or, lack the sophistication (the kind that would be gained in the typical high school puppy love relationships) to successfully approach, talk, to and hook up with any particular woman.

I was extremely shy in my youth and slowly began coming out of my shell when I was 18, 19, and the growth in seems to come in spurts. I.e. specific situations where I'd do something I would never have done before, or have somthing happen to me, that would boost my self confidence to a new level. Anyway the point I'm trying to make is that I've been thinking maybe I should just 'give in' and visit an escort and at least have the sexual aspect taken care of. Maybe spending some time in this way would help me gain more confidence in dealing with woman on a day to day basis. What do you think about losing my proverbial 'cherry' (aside from playing a little 5 on 1) with an escort. At this point in my life I think that is my only option if I'm going to have any success in meeting woman in public.

I am by no means ugly. In fact I often do get complimented on my looks. Cleo of 4Play, for one, seemed to be quite enthusiastic (sic?) in complimenting me at the terb party on the 17'th. I intelligent as well. I just think that when speaking to woman that I'm interested in, that I lack the skills to converse with them and read body signals and such.

Sorry for the rambly, wordy post. Just need to get some thoughts put into words and sentances
 

ggaleazz

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Sorry I'm confused. What is a jersey?
 

Svend

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It will help your confidence if you see a few escorts, seek out ones that are friendly. Just this boost will probably help you meet other women.

Cleo, I'm sure that's an excellent choice judging from the TERB party. This Southern Belle is very lovely and genuinely sweet.
 

MartiniGirls

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It is hard meeting girls, even at a young age, an escort may help your confidence temporarily, but don’t get caught up in the trap of not pursuing girls afterwards because, after all you can have sex with a hot girl anytime (for a couple hundred). Don’t let escorts take place of regular female relationships, I think every guy should be married......and see escorts, ;) helps keep the balance.
 

baci2004

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At the range!!!
Turn on your pm ggaleazz.
 

mass123

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Hey bro, I feel your pain. I wish there was an easy answer.

I think every guy should be married......and see escorts, ;) helps keep the balance.
Every guy I know near my age (brother, brother in law, 2 best friends) tell me with fear in their eyes 'NEVER GET MARRIED'. Seeing an escort isn't even an option for them, let alone thinking about it. Heck I'am scared of my own sister, god what a, you know.
 

Ares

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not just the sex

i think going to a SP at this time may give u a very jaded opinion of the fairer sex. What you need is volume of opportunity. Try checking out lavalife.com, when i seperated from the ex, i used it and was getting dates as often as i could handle

cheers
 

Svend

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There's a lot of men and women in the same position, they just can't seem to connect. It's becoming more difficult in our insulated society to meet people, it might be an idea to make the extra effort and get more involved in the community around you.
 

frankcastle

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Hey G,

Ever thought about internet dating? Try lavalife, its the best one in my opinion because it has the largest number of users. I was in a similar situation as you.... not much dating experience and most sexual experiences were with professionals. Through Lavalife I went on dates with 4 women and exchanged messages with probably another 5 or 6 that never panned out and recieved "winks" a free way of expressing interest from another 5 or 6. This was over the course of 15 months.... 8 of which were spent in a relationship with someone that I met on lavalife. Okay coming in contact with 20 or so women in a year and change isn't a lot but its way better than 0.

If you do go this route my advice is write a good descripttive profile.... look at what other people write, get a good pic of yourself which you can control who see's it if you like, search for what interests you and don't be shy about sending a message (which costs money..... 6 credits to e-mail someone but it is free for unlimited number of replies between the 2 of you...... you can buy 200 credits for $50 USD, or less credits at a higher unit price).

No I'm not a shill for lavalife just a guy in a similar situation as you who has found something that gives me hope.
 

Don

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I don't think it is a great idea to have your first intimate experience to be with an SP. Maybe I'm a bit of a romantic but I think that first time is special. My first real relationship with a girl didn't end up really well but it was one heck of a learning experience in many ways and I gained immensely from it and enjoyed it during the good times.

Also I tend to feel that those types of people who turn to an SP because they are really lonely or whatever are more vulnerable and liable to have unhealthy obsessions with an escort. I've seen this with people I've gone to an SC with they fell in love with a stripper and lost tons of cash there.

Lastly there is a chance that for people whose only experience w/women is with SP's may think that is how interaction with women work and I don't think that is such a good thing.
 

KBear

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Would also not suggest you start with an escort, go see a few MPA's first :) really.

Get a part time job that forces you to meet and talk to people, maybe something in sales, selling women’s shoes would be great, or even the greater at Walmart. If this sounds like it would be difficult for you to do, then all the more reason to do it.
 

assoholic

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..get an escort and tell her you want to learn how to carpet munch, its easy to learn and once you know it will give you confidence.
 

PDL007

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MY friend had success with speed dating. He said it was fun and met alot of women.

I have some female friends who have the same problem. No time for dating. Don't like the bar scene. Don't like the internet dating services.

Try Single dances. Just start talking to people inline at the grocery store. Don't try to pick up people but just randomly talk to people (anybody). It will give you confidence to talk to women. If you can talk to a stranger about the weather in line at the grocery store you can walk up to a girl in a bar and introduce yourself. Don't be cheesy just be you..
 

MartiniGirls

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KBear said:
Would also not suggest you start with an escort, go see a few MPA's first :) really.

Get a part time job that forces you to meet and talk to people, maybe something in sales, selling women’s shoes would be great, or even the greater at Walmart. If this sounds like it would be difficult for you to do, then all the more reason to do it.
Great suggestion KBear, if I might ad do volunteer work if you cannot commit the time to another job. Maybe the hospital, meet nurses, interns and the such, maybe even land a rich female doctor. Or an environmental clean up group, the DonMills trails clean up days or something, get excersize and a tan too.
 

frankcastle

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I like what Ventura had to say.

You will feel more confident if you can identify what you're good at and how it might relate to women that you are interested in.

You need to figure out what your interests are and what you're looking for in a woman. For example, if you're really into say basketball join a co-ed rec league. Take a class in something you're interested in at least you know that the others there will have one thing in common with you.

As for strengths play towards them and highlight them. If you're in good shape flaunt it, if your funny try out your material, if you're good at something try and bring it up in relevant conversations.

conversly avoid your weakness.... if you have 2 left feet than maybe dancing is not for you, if you can't cook worth a damn don't invite someone to sample your cooking.

I think its very common for people to not come out of their shell till after high school at which point it becomes a bit more difficult to meet people because you don't see the same people all the time. So that's why internet dating, speed dating, singles dances, volunteering, taking classes, playing sports and just putting yourself out there is so important. If you can put yourself in a situation where you might see someone every once in a while that will work to your advantage since you will come across as less of a stranger.

Finally, don't forget that for every woman that says yes you will probably have to hear no a lot. That happens to everyone so don't sweat it.
 

Malibook

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ggaleazz said:
Anyway the point I`m trying to make is that I`ve been thinking maybe I should just `give in` and visit an escort and at least have the sexual aspect taken care of. Maybe spending some time in this way would help me gain more confidence in dealing with woman on a day to day basis. What do you think about losing my proverbial `cherry` (aside from playing a little 5 on 1) with an escort. At this point in my life I think that is my only option if I`m going to have any success in meeting woman in public.
If you are going to "give in", why don`t you go somewhere where you can interact in a more laid back environment and experience much more than just having sex?

I am talking about going somewhere where in addition to an abundance of options for pay for play business transactions, there are also numerous freelance/semi-pro possibilities.

Places where there are numerous clubs and bars where you can relax, drink, eat, and mingle and then spend some time partying before and after the sex part.
You can sleep together and have a nice morning session as well.
You can invite her to spend some more time with you and travel around and see more sights or you can be a butterfly and move on to the next flower, which BTW is often quite tough to do.

Most jaded hardcore mongers just go to these places for the sex but there is much more available IMO.

Be careful though.
Many newbie rookies get used and behave extremely stupid.
You might want to read up on Sankies here.
http://dr1.com/forums/

I did a trip report of my first trip to the Dominican Republic here on TERB and another of my 5th trip on ISOC.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6262
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6264
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6265

http://www.insearchofchicas.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1672&highlight=

Check out Astroglide`s posts on this site.
He is somewhat extreme but you will get my point.
http://www.costaricaticas.com/tica.php?id=43&PHPSESSID=0290b37ead61ce04928c309f438e12e7
http://www.costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3429&highlight=

If you have enough time and money you may want to check this place out.
http://www.jimmyregina.com/frontpage.html
http://singletravel.com/phil_faq/index.htm
http://www.balibago.com/
http://www.angeles2.com/board/ubbthreads.php?Cat=

ggaleazz, I am not suggesting that you become a sex tourist.
I am merely offering you some other options in case you decide to "give in". :cool:
 
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