Freedom Convoy organizer, member of separatist Maverick Party, has GoFundMe frozen until documention provided stating how funds will be spent

toguy5252

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first mRNA vaccine trial was in 2013 ...what year was mRNA vaccine against Covid-19 developed and tested ? and for how long ?
And the relevance of that is what? Independent testing authorities all over the world with the benefit of many hundreds of millions of doses administered and the data from scientists and hospitals all over the world have said it was safe and efficacious in varying degrees.
 

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And the relevance of that is what? Independent testing authorities all over the world with the benefit of many hundreds of millions of doses administered and the data from scientists and hospitals all over the world have said it was safe and efficacious in varying degrees.
the relevance is that in 2013 it was just a first proof of concept deployment on human. C19 mRNA ones were developed and tested within very short period of time
vs. the older vaccination technologies that are many decades on the market. Yes, it was administered in millions as you say, that's the concerning part as there are
many groups of populations that it had almost no testing at all or very limited one.
 

toguy5252

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the relevance is that in 2013 it was just a first proof of concept deployment on human. C19 mRNA ones were developed and tested within very short period of time
vs. the older vaccination technologies that are many decades on the market. Yes, it was administered in millions as you say, that's the concerning part as there are
many groups of populations that it had almost no testing at all or very limited one.
The technology is not new. The application to Covid is relatively new. The fact that its current application is relatively new has nothing at all to do with the science and testing. Your arguments are becoming more and more spurious.

Messenger RNA, or mRNA, was discovered in the early 1960s; research into how mRNA could be delivered into cells was developed in the 1970s
 

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the relevance is that in 2013 it was just a first proof of concept deployment on human. C19 mRNA ones were developed and tested within very short period of time
vs. the older vaccination technologies that are many decades on the market. Yes, it was administered in millions as you say, that's the concerning part as there are
many groups of populations that it had almost no testing at all or very limited one.
There's been over 5 million deaths from Covid so far.
How many deaths from the vaccine?
 
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the relevance is that in 2013 it was just a first proof of concept deployment on human. C19 mRNA ones were developed and tested within very short period of time
vs. the older vaccination technologies that are many decades on the market. Yes, it was administered in millions as you say, that's the concerning part as there are
many groups of populations that it had almost no testing at all or very limited one.
Clearly this is a crowd protesting for safety.

 

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They are not experimental. There is a great deal of data supporting the safety and efficacy of the vaccines and the science is clear to anyone who believes in science rather than the crackpots who come up with a new conspiracies every day.
A billion of people took it. Like seriously how chicken shit does one need to be to still be scared of it.
 

JuanGoodman

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A billion of people took it. Like seriously how chicken shit does one need to be to still be scared of it.
Your obsession with "shit" and "anal" as observed in your few latest posts suggests something more about you than the people you are trying to offend.
 

whitehill_21

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Clearly this is a crowd protesting for safety.


The technology is not new. The application to Covid is relatively new. The fact that its current application is relatively new has nothing at all to do with the science and testing. Your arguments are becoming more and more spurious.

Messenger RNA, or mRNA, was discovered in the early 1960s; research into how mRNA could be delivered into cells was developed in the 1970s
and when first time it was used in humans ? and how long C19 vaccine was tested for ?
 

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What is going to come for him?
that's open for discussion depends on his immune system/body composition/overall health and so on
some I know had mild effects, some in my family have long covid after the second dose (and still contracted
covid later) some got palsy some died...so when it's not tested as it should you never know what's coming
it's like a treasure box
 

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mRNA technology was created end of last century but mRNA C-19 vaccine was developed and tested within a year
Dr Sarah Gilbert of Oxford was already working on a MNRA vaccine for Ebola…. They simply had to switch gears. They did not start from scratch as many would have you believe.

 
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Dr Sarah Gilbert of Oxford was already working on a MNRA vaccine for Ebola…. They simply had to switch gears. They did not start from scratch as many would have you believe.

And after all of these years it's still ineffective and has dangerous side effects
 

whitehill_21

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Dr Sarah Gilbert of Oxford was already working on a MNRA vaccine for Ebola…. They simply had to switch gears. They did not start from scratch as many would have you believe.

I didn't say they started from zero ...I am saying first human proof of concept was in 2013 , FDA approval for ebola - 2019, and about a year to develop/test produce C19 ones
it is unprecedented speed for a vaccine...hence a doubt on a quality of the product
 

Frankfooter

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that's open for discussion depends on his immune system/body composition/overall health and so on
some I know had mild effects, some in my family have long covid after the second dose (and still contracted
covid later) some got palsy some died...so when it's not tested as it should you never know what's coming
it's like a treasure box
Uh huh.
 

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Righties sure can't stop with the insults and name -calling, huh? All the stores around me don't have any shortages. What you're describing is a production/labour issue. Not a transportation issue. 85% of truckers are vaccinated.
The majority needs to understand a simple thing: it is their job, as a majority, to defend the rights of the minority. It is our (white people) job to defend the rights of Indians (no matter how we call them). It is our (vaxxed people) job to defend the right of people who decided not to get vaccinated to have the same freedoms, ability to work, and to move around as all of us. Doing otherwise is discrimination. Similar to racial or gender discriminations (although some people can say that race cannot be chosen) and very similar to religious discriminations (face can definitely be chosen). So, yes, this protest is not about truckers, it is, indeed, about the FREEDOM of all of us. And I am sure many vaccinated people who wish that everyone get vaccinated still support others choice not to get vaxed. It is only a small minority of "warrior vaccinators" who actually disapprove this protest
 
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