Oh I agree. I am just saying I can understand someone truly forgetting. I believe that reasoning. I don’t think that it makes it excusable in any way. In fact I am stating the opposite. I can understand forgetting but I wouldn’t excuse it
Forgotten child dies in hot car
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General deterrence can also be considered, however it generally doesn't work as a form of justice. Do I believe she should be charged, No. That being said if it wasn't a well respected teacher, but a single mother who is struggling to make ends meet and not part of the privileged section of society the legal result would be different. That in and of itself is a whole other argument.
The crown will and should charge her for criminal negligence causing death. The relationship to the deceased should not be a mitigating factor nor should consideration of possible remorse that she may suffer. She is not the only family member that will grieve. Mental illness, incapacity would be the only way that she should escape charges otherwise a dangerous precedent will have been set.
Public opinion, “It could have happened to any of us” is a non starter towards her not being charged In this careless action resulting in immense suffering and ultimately death.
Public opinion, “It could have happened to any of us” is a non starter towards her not being charged In this careless action resulting in immense suffering and ultimately death.
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That's not going to happen. As much as you'd like to see her rot in jail, there's little chance of conviction on a charge like that.
This whole discussion is ridiculous.
This is a clear case of involuntary manslaughter caused by criminal negligence. The mother is unequivocally guilty. Full stop. She should be charged, prosecuted and sentenced accordingly.
A child is dead. There is no reasonable excuse under the law to ignore that fact, nor to demure from pressing charges.
If the child had been accidentally hit by a drunk driver and killed, the same politically correct bleeding hearts in this thread that are saying "Gosh, she's suffered enough because it was her kid' are the same ones who'd be hopping up and down outraged, screaming for the driver to be served up for disembowelment.
Such hypocrisy and predictable posts from the usual lefties.
This is a clear case of involuntary manslaughter caused by criminal negligence. The mother is unequivocally guilty. Full stop. She should be charged, prosecuted and sentenced accordingly.
A child is dead. There is no reasonable excuse under the law to ignore that fact, nor to demure from pressing charges.
If the child had been accidentally hit by a drunk driver and killed, the same politically correct bleeding hearts in this thread that are saying "Gosh, she's suffered enough because it was her kid' are the same ones who'd be hopping up and down outraged, screaming for the driver to be served up for disembowelment.
Such hypocrisy and predictable posts from the usual lefties.
Another incident, this time fathers kills self upon discovery of dead child:
ca.yahoo.com
Father kills himself after finding 18-month-old son dead in hot car
Man dies of self-inflicted gunshot injury shortly after finding his child motionless inside car
I would not like to see anything other than the scales of justice and the laws of the land being applied. Likely she will be charged by the crown and if convicted serve no jail time. If she is not even charged then an unfortunate precedent may be set.
According to KidsandCars.org, which tracks children's deaths associated with automobiles in the US, 43 percent of caregivers who unintentionally left children in hot cars did not face charges, and 11 percent were charged but not convicted.
if you cant be responsible enough not to neglect your kids, people should not be parents. parental rights should be removed for the safety of any other living children. using stress or any other reasons is a cop out for not taking responsibility. lots of people have stressful lives and deal with even worse shit. doesnt mean they would abuse or neglect their kids.
Maybe there should be a Good Samaritan like clause that if one sees an infant or toddler left alone in a car in winter cold or summer heat and the car window is smashed to free the child, no charges should result either as time could be of the essence. So smash the glass and call 911 so that LE doesn’t get too bent out of shape. Fuck the car and the driver that left the child unattended!
Since there's no course to take, no test to pass, anyone can become a parent. Many aren't responsible enough to become parents. Others are, but then make a mistake. That's the problem with humans, they're not perfect. I'm sure if you asked friends of the woman from Bancroft if she was responsible enough to have kids (before leaving her kid in the car), her friend would overwhelmingly say yes.
Nobody's going to get charged for rescuing a child or pet from a hot or freezing cold car. The problem is, most of the time it's too late.
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First - I personally would gladly be charged for breaking into a car to rescue an animal or child but that is me.
Second - if a person is not careful, they can injury the animal or child they are trying to rescue. You have to watch which window and how you break it. You may not have to “smash” the window. You could break the driver side window and unlock the lock while the animal or child are in the back passenger side, being careful not to spray the glass, but some people in a panic, could smash the passenger side window and cause more damage
Lastly, here in Ontario, LE are not allow to enter a vehicle unless the animal or child is in clear distress. So crying or whining is not enough. They have to be physically feeling the effects of the heat/cold and be in true medical distress, showing symptoms before a cop and break a window can render aid. Found that out when a person left a dog in the car. It was there for hours. It was hot-ish. Not heat wave but nice sunny summer day. The windows were crack open and there was a bowl knocked over which we assumed was suppose to be for water. The dog was panting but not hard. There was nothing to cop could do. She has to wait for the owner to finally return and give him a warning. That is it.
All side windows are tempered glass and will shatter into small cubes. It only makes sense to smash the one furthest from the person you're trying to recue. But the likelihood of being injured by the broken safety glass is slim to none.
This is not entirely true. In the case of a child, if they're locked in an unattended hot/cold car for any length of time with no sign of a caregiver in sight, LE would be allowed to break in. A child can die in as little as an hour if left in a hot car. There's no way LE would just stand there waiting for "visible symptoms" before they acted.
