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Ford government going to anounce how they're going to enforce new stay-at-home order

Phil C. McNasty

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Might as well implement a curfew at this point
 

proudCyber

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I booked a short-term rental getaway. Can I still go?

No. The province says that pre-arranged bookings for short-term rentals at hotels, motels, lodges, cabins, cottages, resorts are prohibited, with exceptions for housing requirements.
Does this cause issues for companions who are in hotels?
 

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Does this cause issues for companions who are in hotels?
It would seem so. I don't know how the Government intends to go about enforcing this, however.

The Hotels have to stay open because they are an essential business.....but they are not allowed to take short-term bookings. And to the best of my knowledge, the sector is getting absolutely no financial support whatsoever.
 

farquhar

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Hope its nothing too crazy I still want to try and make my appointment on saturday
I wouldn't do an Incall at a Hotel right now....the cops know where all the action takes place and can easily pick guys off in the parking lot....of course, you could consider the $750 fine a "cost of doing business." My pockets aren't that deep however.
 

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Does this cause issues for companions who are in hotels?
Here is what the actual regulation says:

O. Reg. 82/20: RULES FOR AREAS IN STAGE 1 (ontario.ca)

Short-term rentals
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(1) Every person who provides short term rental accommodation shall ensure that any rentals are only provided to individuals who are in need of housing.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply with respect to hotels, motels, lodges, resorts and other shared rental accommodation, including student residences, but does apply with respect to cabins and cottages.

(3) Subsection (1) does not apply with respect to short term rental accommodations that were reserved during a period when this Order did not apply to the area in which the accommodation is located.

Doug Ford doesn't want people going up to Cottage Country.....so, assuming this doesn't change, you can still legally rent a Hotel room and the Hotel is not required to ask any questions....but, again, that doesn't prevent the cops from hanging out in the parking lot and shaking you down while you wait for the room number from the SP.
 

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Does this cause issues for companions who are in hotels?
I went to two incalls at hotels during the first lockdowns there were no police.
 

Fun For All

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When close to everything gets closed and shut down and live entertainment doesn't exist I find it easy to stay home.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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It is a curfew, they just called it a stay at home order lol

Same way its not taxes but revenue tools
They should rename CRA the Canada Ripoff Agency
 

jcpro

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I went around today, even though our office is closed(not completely), the construction sites are humming along, so far(so good). Quite a bit of traffic, way too many cops, meter maids, city workers- I guess our "leadership" in this city doesn't want to reduce services even when they're not needed. The private sector can go and fuck itself as long as the parasites get what they clearly deserve. What a fucking farce we're force to endure.
 

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Toronto police say individuals won’t be ‘compelled to explain why they are out of their residence’ amid new stay-at-home order



Residents won’t be forced to explain why they are out of their homes despite a stay-at-home order from the province, Toronto police said as it laid out its enforcement plan, which will mainly focus on restaurants, businesses and large gatherings.

The Toronto Police Service released details of how they will be enforcing the order hours after it took effect. The stay-at-home order, which was announced on Tuesday, requires residents to only go out for essential purposes as the province tries to curtail the spread of the novel coronavirus.


“The message from the Toronto Police Service is to stay home and stay safe. This is no longer strictly a public health issue, it is a matter of public safety,” Toronto police Deputy Chief Myron Demkiw said in a statement.

“We each have a personal responsibility to limit our travel to essential reasons only to slow the spread of COVID-19 and try to keep our families and communities safe and support our hospitals and healthcare workers.”

Much of their enforcement will zero in on restaurants and businesses that are not complying with COVID-19 rules, Toronto police said, adding that they will also respond to calls for gatherings. Establishments could be temporarily closed for violating restrictions.

“Officers can exercise discretion in every situation,” Demkiw said. “But, where there is evidence of non-compliance, officers will be ticketing and issuing summonses for individuals and businesses.”

Toronto police noted that the order does not give officers the power to enter residences and stop vehicles just to check if people are complying with the order.

In addition to people not being compelled to explain why they left their homes, workers will not be required to have proof from their employer that they are travelling to or from their workplace, police said, adding that merely being outside does not mean non-compliance.

Toronto police said when an officer finds reasonable and probable grounds that a person violated the order or the Reopening Ontario Act, the person will be asked to provide their identity so that the officer can issue a ticket or summons.

If the person refuses to provide their identity, police said they could be arrested and charged with obstructing a police officer.

In Peel Region, Deputy Chief Marc Andrews said they are currently reviewing the regulations.

“There’s a period where we’ve got to understand the details of the legislation and our powers under that legislation,” Andrews said in an interview with CP24.

“We’re currently in the process of not only sort of understanding legislation ourselves but educating our officers. We’ll be putting out information as the day proceeds to our officers, and that will focus on how we can support public health and enforce when necessary.”

Similar to the Toronto police, Andrews said their enforcement will mainly target large crowds this weekend.

In the meantime, Andrews is asking Peel residents to stop calling 911 to ask about the stay-at-home order. He urged them to contact 311 instead if they want to inquire about the regulations.


This weekend, 50 Ministry of Labour inspectors will join local police and bylaw officers in visiting big-box stores in Toronto, Hamilton, Peel, York and Durham to ensure that workers and patrons are wearing masks, maintaining physical distance, and adhering to other safety measures.

Those who are caught not adhering to the rules will be issued fines of $750, Labour Minister Monte McNaughton said.

“We know that the majority of workers and workplaces across the province are following the rules. We can’t let our guard down for a single second. Inspectors will inspect places like break rooms and lunchrooms on the rounds to keep workers safe, even off the clock,” McNaughton said.

“Combined with health data inspectors will focus on workplaces, with the greatest risk of spread. That includes manufacturing, warehousing, food processing and workplaces where outbreaks have been reported.”

Toronto Public Health reported 1,035 new cases of COVID-19 and 28 more deaths on Thursday.

Stay-at-home order in effect but Ontario cops can't randomly stop people | CP24.com
 
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Ford's order is so based on medical advice it allows employers to determine whether workers are essential.
 

six_pac

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Here is what the actual regulation says:

O. Reg. 82/20: RULES FOR AREAS IN STAGE 1 (ontario.ca)

Short-term rentals
6.
(1) Every person who provides short term rental accommodation shall ensure that any rentals are only provided to individuals who are in need of housing.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply with respect to hotels, motels, lodges, resorts and other shared rental accommodation, including student residences, but does apply with respect to cabins and cottages.

(3) Subsection (1) does not apply with respect to short term rental accommodations that were reserved during a period when this Order did not apply to the area in which the accommodation is located.

Doug Ford doesn't want people going up to Cottage Country.....so, assuming this doesn't change, you can still legally rent a Hotel room and the Hotel is not required to ask any questions....but, again, that doesn't prevent the cops from hanging out in the parking lot and shaking you down while you wait for the room number from the SP.
City would have to hire thousands of new officers in order to police this, also i doubt anyone who is ticketed under these conditions will ever pay those tickets are 2 high, and if i ha e to chose between paying for my food, rent, heat etc.. Guess what we all choose, and there is definitely not enough jail cells to keep everyone who is breaking this unreasonable law.
 

six_pac

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Ford's order is so based on medical advice it allows employers to determine whether workers are essential.
Ford cares so much about, medical advice, that he is not allowing for sick days to medical professionals.
 
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