For the guys who want to discuss whether or not they'd do an 18 yr old

frankcastle

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I feel bad that Thaigirl's thread about Elissa is getting hijacked and in part by one of my comments. So I thought let's separate that discussion from their advertisement.

I don't judge people for wanting or getting turned on by a girl who is 18. She's legally an adult I understand that.

But in my experience with 18 years olds (spending time with them nonsexually) I find that our north american culture has kept them pretty immature. I mean I've come across girls that can't do chores that I did as a 13 year old (e.g. laundry or cooking). now I'm not saying girls should cook and clean but my point is that developmentally some of these girls have a long way to go. I mean I think an adult should be able to take care of themselves and clearly these 18 year olds cannot.

Emotionally I find them still prone to tantrums and just all round childish behaviour still trying to use the same lame tricks to get things to go their own way. I didn't fall for it when they were 14 not going to fall for it now.
Go ahead and cry, you've had plenty of more than fair chances to succeed.

Intellecutually I find 18 year olds have conversations that make me want to shoot myself. I've got relatives in that age group and I'll be damned if anything interesting came out of one of their mouths.

From an experience standpoint, most of the best women for sex are the ones that have sex, enjoy it and usually this comes with time.

Even from a physical perspective I prefer slightly older girls because in high school versus after graduation. I find that more of them get involved in working out and taking care of themselves more.

Anyways, please understand that I'm not trying to convince or change anyone's views I was just expressing my own opinions.

And as stated earlier I also look at it from another perspective which is women in this age group are young enough to be my student or my daughter if I got started extrememly young and I'd rather not sexualize them.
 

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my teenage years weren't so long ago, so I can still clearly remember the general behaviours of most 18 year olds, male or female

types of 18 year olds:

-think they are invincible
a lot of 18 year olds think they have already achieved some kind of ubermensch status
they think they've got everything figured out, and are as mature as any adult
it's scary how confident some of them are, and how easily they crumble when reality hits them
these are usually the types to make drastic decisions without really understanding the possible outcomes

-far too immature
in a way, they're too afraid to move on into adulthood, so they outwardly continue to act like children

-submissive
figure the only way to make it into adulthood and become exactly like their parents is to do exactly what their parents tell them

-wild
completely out of control, sometimes for the sake of being out of control and not because of any logical reason

the point is that when you're fresh out of highschool, you still have no clue about anything
 

Arunis

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Would I do an 18 year old? SURE! I'm in my early 20s and its perfectly ok for me. Would I want to get to know a 18 year old? That is a completely different story.

From my experience, people develop their personality during college. Until then, they are pretty much just recycling what they take in from the media, TV, their family, and friends. It could be different for SPs? Maybe they mature sooner.
 

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Arunis said:
Would I do an 18 year old? SURE! I'm in my early 20s and its perfectly ok for me. Would I want to get to know a 18 year old? That is a completely different story.

From my experience, people develop their personality during college. Until then, they are pretty much just recycling what they take in from the media, TV, their family, and friends. It could be different for SPs? Maybe they mature sooner.
Actually studies have shown that ones peronality/character is defined by the age of 2, so how did mommy and daddy raise ya? After that you're just refining yourself based on environmental influences and the ability to reason. The stupid thing when I say this is people always question "So your saying a person cant change?" In essence yes, but that doesnt mean they dont have choices to better themselves, it just might be harder for a poorly raised 2 year old (product of a teen whitetrash parent) turned adult to be good - but is good, than for a well nurtured 2 year old turned adult to be good. Both are good, both choose to be good. It just comes easier for the latter.....thats all.....
 

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are you guys drunk ? if you turned down an 18 yr old you are either a) insane b) its your daughter. garaunteed all of you older gents have fantasized about your younger daughters friends.
 

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I completely agree with what has been said to an extent. Life experiences make some more or less mature then others. I'm a retired solider that now works as chemistry teacher at a highschool in Manotick (outside of Ottawa). Some of my students are far more mature then some 40 year olds I know and others are, well I really hope that the general public is ready to deal with this generation of punks.

On the subject of wanting to sleep with an 18 year old, I teach at a catholic school so let's just say I have had many dirty thoughts during class, but of course my professional side and the fact that I am a father with a 16 and a 19 year old daughter keeps those urges in line. I like settled and confident women and they usually fall into the 30+ range.
 

frankcastle

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Of course your own age and where you are in life plays into the equation as well.

Have I ever fantasized or thought about sex with a young girl sure. But fantasizing and actually going through with it are two different things.

An earlier poster also pointed out that he saw a difference between having sex with and having a relationship with.

All valid and important points.
 

Arunis

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fantasiafan said:
Actually studies have shown that ones peronality/character is defined by the age of 2, so how did mommy and daddy raise ya? After that you're just refining yourself based on environmental influences and the ability to reason. The stupid thing when I say this is people always question "So your saying a person cant change?" In essence yes, but that doesnt mean they dont have choices to better themselves, it just might be harder for a poorly raised 2 year old (product of a teen whitetrash parent) turned adult to be good - but is good, than for a well nurtured 2 year old turned adult to be good. Both are good, both choose to be good. It just comes easier for the latter.....thats all.....
While i dont doubt your info, I think we're talking about different things here. I'm talking about how interesting and knowledgeable a person is (and to an extent the validity of their opinions). Good and evil are subjective (and according to Toronto law, all of us who hobby are quite evil). Sorry for the mixup!
 

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I did see an SP once who was 18/19. At the time, I was in my late 20s.

She was OK, but I think I would've felt more comfortable with someone at least in their 20s.
 

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Interesting and knowledgeable are key for me. I can't/won't sit aroud and talk about the latest Lindsay Lohan movie, nor am I interested in what's going on Laguna Beach. I liked MTV when they actually showed videos. Call me old fashioned. :D

So many guys knock teachers for not being in the real world well where are these teens? Looking for prom dresses and worrying about curfew and sneaking around with fake IDs.
 

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university kid said:
are you guys drunk ? if you turned down an 18 yr old you are either a) insane b) its your daughter. garaunteed all of you older gents have fantasized about your younger daughters friends.
Kinda ridiculous comment I think, seeing as I dont go after women based on age, but rather by looks. Are you telling me all 18 year olds are hot? Cuz theyre not! And I could say they are all immature or underdeveloped but is that true? nope, so you see generalizations dont work.....

.....frankly Id be happy with a super hot looking girl who knew how to fuck!




(and was 19)
:D
 

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I'm going to be blunt, because it's not just about her age:

an 18 year old SP who

-elects to be in unblurred photos, which is very rare in the industry even among more experienced SPs

-has a menu that is a hell of a lot more extreme than the average SP, including golden showers, swallowing, greek, and 2 guys at once

has NO idea what she's doing

period.
 

fantasiafan

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freshbreath said:
I'm going to be blunt, because it's not just about her age:

an 18 year old SP who

-elects to be in unblurred photos, which is very rare in the industry even among more experienced SPs

-has a menu that is a hell of a lot more extreme than the average SP, including golden showers, swallowing, greek, and 2 guys at once

has NO idea what she's doing

period.
Hey youve sumed up Zoe from Burlington! :D
 

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fantasiafan said:
Actually studies have shown that ones peronality/character is defined by the age of 2, so how did mommy and daddy raise ya? After that you're just refining yourself based on environmental influences and the ability to reason. The stupid thing when I say this is people always question "So your saying a person cant change?" In essence yes, but that doesnt mean they dont have choices to better themselves, it just might be harder for a poorly raised 2 year old (product of a teen whitetrash parent) turned adult to be good - but is good, than for a well nurtured 2 year old turned adult to be good. Both are good, both choose to be good. It just comes easier for the latter.....thats all.....
I am afraid that you are misinformed here. Personality/character is NOT defined by the time you are 2. There is some evidence to suggest temperament may be hard wired by the time you are two, but personality most definately not. Children can not be given a diagnosis of "Personality Disorder" quite simply because the personality has not fully formed. According to the DSM IV and the APA this diagnosis for Personality Disorder may not be applied until the child reaches the age of 18. The only caveat is that if the symptomolgy has been stable and persistent for more than 1 year. And specifically, Anti-social PD may not in any circumstance be diagnosed until after the age of 18.
 

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Sexy_Dave said:
I am afraid that you are misinformed here. Personality/character is NOT defined by the time you are 2. There is some evidence to suggest temperament may be hard wired by the time you are two, but personality most definately not. Children can not be given a diagnosis of "Personality Disorder" quite simply because the personality has not fully formed. According to the DSM IV and the APA this diagnosis for Personality Disorder may not be applied until the child reaches the age of 18. The only caveat is that if the symptomolgy has been stable and persistent for more than 1 year. And specifically, Anti-social PD may not in any circumstance be diagnosed until after the age of 18.
I take it youve never heard the deaf lion joke :D
 

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My all time favourite fantasy:

Twin - Virgin - 18 year old - cheerleaders

Never happen - but that's why it's a fantasy...
 

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Frank, I'm with you on some of those qualities, but here's the thing:

Elissa was none of those things. She's smart, humble, patient, and generally without the affect of someone that age.

I don't know if you considered the opposite qualities: that someone that age is open to new things, interested in the wisdom of older people, likes facials, ....

Sorry couldn't resist, lol, but you get my point. Because I've been with dozens and dozens of 18/19 year old MP's, I'm prepared for the immaturity, and in Elissa's case, it's not there. She's a pretty wise young girl.
 

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Would I have sex with an 18 year old girl?

SP: Yes - she's made her decision about what she's doing and I'm ok with that.

Non-SP: Yes - as long as I feel that I would not be taking advantage of her by capitalizing on some emotional attachment that really has no future.

In general, though, I find the younger girls to be less experienced and more about the act than the connection during the act. I tend to prefer a woman in her 30's.

BTW, I'm 54 (for a few more days).
 

Arunis

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Lets face it, the fantasy of an 18 year old is hot. If it plays out in reality depends on the girl, cant really give a performance rating based on age alone. Just try them all and find out which works! :cool:
 

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If she's hot and willing, hell yeah! :p
Women of all ages have something to offer in various ways.

The arguement that I should stay away because I'm old enough to be her father means that I wouldn't be able to see any 30 year old women either.
We've drawn a line for consent that I respect, why raise it?
 
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