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SchlongConery

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this is what you get when you hire incompetent "people" to do very difficult work

why is she alone and why is she tasing everybody? :confused:
Funny, but I thought she did a good job and handled herself well. Tough as nails. Like to see you facing four screaming men and not run away like a scared little keyboard warrior.

She was investigating a crime. Specifically thugs who slashed the tire of a little old lady neighbour. He was a suspect who moved towards her, acted agressively towards her and grabbed her wrist. That could have been two seconds away from him grabbing her gun, pulling a knife etc. She was 100% within her authority to use the taser.

Not all Police Departments have two man patrol cars during the day either. Not every call is about low lifes like you seem to express a special kinship towards.
 

Ginomore

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She should have called for backup.
She could have easily been attacked from behind at any point.
This is why women should not be cops-she didn’t have the strength to put the cuffs on him.
 

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She should have called for backup.
She could have easily been attacked from behind at any point.
This is why women should not be cops-she didn’t have the strength to put the cuffs on him.
Near the end of the clip you can hear sirens so she likely already did call for backup.

And Ive seen tons of police body cam vids where several cops can't get the cuffs on a guy... some that they had already shot or tazed.

Personally, think she's an example of a good copper. Being a good cop isn't just about being a big meathead who can wrestle a crazy person to the ground. It's about trying to descalate so you don't have to and if you do, doing it quickly and with complete confidence. I wish there were more cops like her, male and female. I'd have no problem with being her partner or having her have my back.
 
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Near the end of the clip you can hear sirens so she likely already did call for backup.

And Ive seen tons of police body cam vids where several cops can't get the cuffs on a guy... some that they had already shot or tazed.

Personally, think she's an example of a good copper. Being a good cop isn't just about being a big meathead who can wrestle a crazy person to the ground. It's about trying to descalate so you don't have to and if you do, doing it quickly and with complete confidence. I wish there were more cops like her, male and female. I'd have no problem with being her partner or having her have my back.
She didn’t wait for backup before engaging the suspects and didn’t do a particularly good job of de-escalateing the situation.
 

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Remember those 3 idiots that video recorded their killing of Ahmad Arboury, a black man who they suspected was a burglar/thief a few years ago?
 
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She should have called for backup.
She could have easily been attacked from behind at any point.
This is why women should not be cops-she didn’t have the strength to put the cuffs on him.
So what about the scenes where it is 4 grown male cops who can’t get one set of cuffs on one average man?

Stop being so sexist. To actual say that women shouldn’t be cops because they don’t have the strength to cuff a man. 🤦‍♀️🙄
 
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So what about the scenes where it is 4 grown male cops who can’t get one set of cuffs on one average man?

Stop being so sexist. To actual say that women shouldn’t be cops because they don’t have the strength to cuff a man. 🤦‍♀️🙄
What about ism is not an argument.
In your scenario it would take 10 women to get the cuffs on.
You can’t argue with biology.
 

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What about ism is not an argument.
In your scenario it would take 10 women to get the cuffs on.
You can’t argue with biology.
You were the one who made the singular comment. So when the singular is thrown back, you can’t defend it.


You said women can’t because they can’t cuff a suspect on their own. But men can’t either. You just prove your sexist attitudes. But that’s ok. Do you cupcake.
 

SchlongConery

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What about ism is not an argument.
In your scenario it would take 10 women to get the cuffs on.
You can’t argue with biology.
Are you are proving that you can't argue with genetics either when it comes to intelligence?

A small woman can be trained in one of innumerable fighting skills to take on any street punk or assholes like these mutts.

Never mind pressure points, advanced martial arts etc.. simple judo uses the size of your opponent against him. Literally, the bigger they are the harder they fall.

Now, of course, if a trained woman is up against a trained fighter all bets are off. Or a crazy one. But so it would go with a man. One of those tatted up tough guy cops or a fat out of shape one.

The other thing that makes these situations difficult is that the police officer has an implied duty not to use "excessive" force relevant to the circumstances. So she can't go all Bruce Lee right away. The non-compliant offender has not such limitiations imposed. And by the time it has escalated, it may be too late to regain the upper hand.

I think we do need plenty of women on the police force. Most police work does not involve physical violence. The best cops have skills to de-escalate. Problem is that SOME women, and men, cops go all tough, bad ass but can't back it up. It's the quiet spoken ones that are often the most capable physically as they have that confidence knowing they can handle things if they get rough.
 
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Ginomore

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You were the one who made the singular comment. So when the singular is thrown back, you can’t defend it.


You said women can’t because they can’t cuff a suspect on their own. But men can’t either. You just prove your sexist attitudes. But that’s ok. Do you cupcake.
I can absolutely defend it.
The average man is stronger than most females.
I know it’s shocking to some people.
Men have a much better chance at cuffing a suspect.
 

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Are you are proving that you can't argue with genetics either when it comes to intelligence?

A small woman can be trained in one of innumerable fighting skills to take on any street punk or assholes like these mutts.

Never mind pressure points, advanced martial arts etc.. simple judo uses the size of your opponent against him. Literally, the bigger they are the harder they fall.

Now, of course, if a trained woman is up against a trained fighter all bets are off. Or a crazy one. But so it would go with a man. One of those tatted up tough guy cops or a fat out of shape one.

The other thing that makes these situations difficult is that the police officer has an implied duty not to use "excessive" force relevant to the circumstances. So she can't go all Bruce Lee right away. The non-compliant offender has not such limitiations imposed. And by the time it has escalated, it may be too late to regain the upper hand.

I think we do need plenty of women on the police force. Most police work does not involve physical violence. The best cops have skills to de-escalate. Problem is that SOME women, and men, cops go all tough, bad ass but can't back it up. It's the quiet spoken ones that are often the most capable physically as they have that confidence knowing they can handle things if they get rough.
A small woman even if trained would get destroyed by the average man.
I don’t know how this is not common knowledge.
 
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