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Leaffan1976

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Gelinas turned out to be the best acquisition at the trade deadline he is amazing. Wouldn't surprise me if he scored the winning goal to win the cup!
 

kingcobra

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They didn't get Gelinas at the trade deadkine, they signed as a free agent last summer. Getting Kiprusoff at the trade deadline, now that was a move that paid off in spades. Is there a better player in the league right now than Iginla.

As a former long time resident of Calgary I gotta say YEAH BABY! Time to book a flight to Calgary.
 

Ranger68

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Go Flames!

Iginla and St. Louis, the two best players in the NHL, may end up head to head in the finals. Now THAT would be worth watching. :)

Kiprusoff got to stick it to his old team. Nice.

Anyone know off-hand if the Flames are the first team to advance to the finals by beating all three division winners? (Or, the 1-2-3 seeds?) I suspect not, but don't have the time to research it.
 

Ranger68

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I'm actually more interested to see if they're the first to beat the top three seeds, since the four-round playoff format has been in effect for longer. This year, in the west, those two categories are the same - the top three seeds *are* the division winners.
If they then play and beat Tampa, the top seed from the east, I'd bet that'd be the first time that whole combo has ever been done.
 

The Doctor

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Ranger68 said:
I'm actually more interested to see if they're the first to beat the top three seeds, since the four-round playoff format has been in effect for longer. This year, in the west, those two categories are the same - the top three seeds *are* the division winners.
If they then play and beat Tampa, the top seed from the east, I'd bet that'd be the first time that whole combo has ever been done.
Well actually Ranger, not to be picky but by definition, under the current NHL playoff structure, the division winners are guarenteed to be the top 3 seeds in the conference. Seeding for a tournament (in this case the Stanley Cup playoffs) is a processed designed structure the draw by dispersing relative strength through out and at the same time reward certain participants for performances against a league or peer group. Therefore in the NHL, if you win your division you are rewarded with one of the top three seeds in the tournament. The NHL chooses to use regular season points to assign the division winners the 1, 2 or 3 seeds and uses the same format for determining the seedings for the next 5 strongest teams in the conference. However if your own interpretation and assignment of the seeds is based on the top three teams in the conference based on points then, yes, this year your statement would be correct.

I don't have the statistical eveidence to confirm (perhaps one of those websites that provide endless hockey statistics/trivia might have it) but I would hazzard a guess to say that this seeding/points correlation has been the case in past years, particularly in the Western conference with its more balanced divisions and where there have been consistently strong division leaders (Detroit, Colorado and Dallas).

But hey, what do I know.

Iginla is the most dominating player in the game right now. Go Flames!
 

Ranger68

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Well actually Ranger, not to be picky but by definition, under the current NHL playoff structure, the division winners are guarenteed to be the top 3 seeds in the conference. Seeding for a tournament (in this case the Stanley Cup playoffs) is a processed designed structure the draw by dispersing relative strength through out and at the same time reward certain participants for performances against a league or peer group. Therefore in the NHL, if you win your division you are rewarded with one of the top three seeds in the tournament. The NHL chooses to use regular season points to assign the division winners the 1, 2 or 3 seeds and uses the same format for determining the seedings for the next 5 strongest teams in the conference. However if your own interpretation and assignment of the seeds is based on the top three teams in the conference based on points then, yes, this year your statement would be correct.
I'm aware of all this.

What I *should* have said, was top three teams, not seeds. That is, the teams with the three best records. As I indicated, this year they're the same. They're not always. In fact, most of the time, this isn't the case.
 
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