Fixing a problem? Is there a problem?

[healer677]

Joe Theismann suggested that the NFL should make it a rule not to show excessive end zone celebrations on tv. He suggested this, with a specific reference to Terell Owens.

I've always enjoyed the post TD antics of a few players, not just Owens.

Is this even a problem?

I think the NFL, with the fines it can impose to the players; have already addressed this.

I found Theismanns comments surprising (considering his team was probably the forefathers of the first organized end zone dance).

DO you find end zone celebrations excessive today?

 

[spartan5782]

DO you find end zone celebrations excessive today?

I still like seeing the group celebrations, but the "individuals" really irk me! Some receivers (Owens) act as if that perfect spiral never took place. That somehow, he blocked Ray Lewis to keep him off McNabb to buy him the time to throw the perfect 60 yarder that landed right in his hands while in stride. You need to give it up to your offensive line, receivers who drew coverage, and above all, the QB.

Outside of that, it's all good.

 

[shack]

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I still like seeing the group celebrations, but the "individuals" really irk me!

I'm of the opposite opinion. Let each player display his happiness of a score for the team in his own way in a spontaneous manner (that does not include Sharpies and cell phones). The group choreography thing is another extension of the gang/ghetto mentality. It's rehearsed, it's not spontaneous. It's sort of like a tribal ritual after slaying the beast.

Just because a player spikes a ball in the endzone doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate the efforts of his teammmates. He can still thank them personally and give them credit when talking to the media.

Let's compare it to hockey. Would you rather have a player raise his stick and celebrate for a few seconds by jumping or sliding or skate to cente ice and meet with his teammates along the red line and do a chorus line dance? You'd probably be outraged to see it in hockey, so why is it OK in football?

Too many of these celebrations are no more than a slap in the face to their opponents who are supposed to be colleagues even though they're competitors. Unprofessional. Unsportsmanlike. Creates ill will.

 

[spartan5782]

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The group choreography thing is another extension of the gang/ghetto mentality. It's rehearsed, it's not spontaneous. It's sort of like a tribal ritual after slaying the beast.

Jesus shack, would you depict the pre-game and post-game prayers as "gang/ghetto" mentality? It's certainly rehearsed.

What I was talking about is spontaneous, not necessarily the rehearsed celebration. I was going back to the "old" days of when a running back scored, he gave the ball to an O lineman to spike and 5 or 6 guys hugged and high 5'd. Now, no one dares come near someone who just scored, he has to do his "ritual", it just doesn't include the "tribe" as you say (I still like calling them a team).

All I'm saying is that the individual on a team sport is nothing without the team. And for them to celebrate alone, as if the other players didn't exist, standing in the endzone on the Dallas Star with your arms spread as if to say "Look at me!! I'm the greatest!" without recognizing that the blocks and QB scramble and accurate thow is what got you the ball...to me it's plain selfish. But ok, I'm old fashioned...

Barry handing the ball to the ref after scoring still in my book epitomizes class, and then allowing his teamates to share in the glory epitomizes team spirit.

 

[spiff]

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Barry handing the ball to the ref after scoring still in my book epitomizes class, and then allowing his teamates to share in the glory epitomizes team spirit. [/B]

I second that. Hand the ball to the ref and get on with the game....