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What did he think was going to happen ? They throw gays of buildings and hang them in Muslim countries like Iran.

Muhsin Hendricks, a pioneering figure dubbed the world's first openly gay imam, has been shot dead in South Africa.

The 57-year-old cleric ran a mosque in Cape Town intended as a safe haven for gay and other marginalised Muslims. He was killed on Saturday morning after the car in which he was travelling near the southern city of Gqeberha was ambushed.
"Two unknown suspects with covered faces got out of the vehicle and started firing multiple shots at the vehicle," police said in a statement.
News of Hendricks' death has sent shockwaves through the LGBTQ+ community and beyond, prompting an outpouring of tributes from across the globe.

Julia Ehrt, executive director at the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (Ilga), called on the authorities to thoroughly investigate "what we fear may be a hate crime".
"He supported and mentored so many people in South Africa and around the world in their journey to reconcile with their faith, and his life has been a testament to the healing that solidarity across communities can bring in everyone's lives," she said.

Hendricks was killed after he had reportedly officiated at a lesbian wedding, though this has not been officially confirmed.
The details of the attack emerged through security footage that was shared on social media.

It shows a car pulling up and blocking the vehicle in which Hendricks was travelling as it was pulling away from the curb. According to police, the imam was in the back seat.

The angle of CCTV footage reveals what happened from one side of the road - an assailant jumps out of a car, runs to the ambushed vehicle and shoots repeatedly through the back passenger window.
Hendricks' Al-Ghurbaah Foundation, which runs the Masjidul Ghurbaah mosque in the Wynberg suburb of Cape Town, confirmed he had died in a targeted attack on Saturday morning.
But Abdulmugheeth Petersen, chair of the foundation's board, appealed via a WhatsApp group for their followers to be patient, stressing the importance of protecting Hendricks' family.

Hendricks' work challenged traditional interpretations of Islam and championed a compassionate, inclusive faith.
South Africa's post-apartheid constitution was the first in the world to protect people from discrimination because of their sexual orientation and in 2006, became the first country in Africa to legalise same-sex marriage.
But despite a thriving LGBT community, gay people still face discrimination and violence. The country also has one of the highest murder rates in the world.

Hendricks came out as gay in 1996, which shocked the wider Muslim community in Cape Town and elsewhere.
That same year, he founded The Inner Circle, an organisation providing support and a safe space for queer Muslims seeking to reconcile their faith and sexuality before going on to establish the inclusive Masjidul Ghurbaah mosque.
He was the subject of a documentary in 2022 called The Radical, in which he said about the threats he faced: "The need to be authentic was greater than the fear to die."

Hendricks often spoke about the importance of interfaith dialogue and the need to address the mental health issues and trauma faced by LGBTQ+ individuals within religious communities.
He told the Ilga World Conference in Cape Town last year: "It is important that we stop to look at religion as the enemy."
Reverend Jide Macaulay, an openly gay Anglican minister, described Hendricks' death as "truly heartbreaking".

The British-Nigerian LGBTQ rights activist runs House of Rainbow, an organisation that provides support for gay people in Nigeria where same-sex relationships or public displays of affection are illegal, and paid tribute to Hendricks' bravery.
"Your leadership, courage, and unwavering dedication to inclusive faith communities have left an indelible mark," he said.

Sadiq Lawal, a gay Muslim man living in Nigeria, told the BBC that Hendricks, had made such an impact as he had made "the impossible possible" by saying the words: "I'm a queer imam."
"He's a mentor to many queer Muslims in Africa, especially in Nigeria, because of religious extremism," he said.

"I'm still in shock and devastated."

 

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What's the difference between religious muslims and the cult of trump? Not a hell of a lot. Fanatics, all of them.

Neither tolerates even the tiniest bit of dissent. Strict adherence to doctrine is demanded at all times. There is no tolerance.
 

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They don't want their religion watered down, turned into a mockery, and end up with lesbian priests like Christianity.

The rest of the world doesn't tolerate such nonsense.

And the vulgar displays of the rainbow crowd is being pushed back even in the West.

 
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What is the dissent in Trumps camp ? Don’t be weird. That’s about it.
The TDS is strong these days...Having said that, Susie Wiles shouldn't let Elon Musk get behind a microphone in the White House ever again...He's a PR nightmare, lol...He doesn't seem to have any self awareness, no impulse control.
 
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The TDS is strong these days...Having said that, Susie Wiles shouldn't let Elon Musk get behind a microphone in the White House ever again...He's a PR nightmare, lol...He doesn't seem to have any self awareness, no impulse control.
I don’t disagree with that comment. Elon is awkward. He will admit it himself. He is also a major troll, probably biggest one in the world. He will do things for his own amusement, even if he’s the only one who gets the joke.

The thing is I also wouldn’t bet against Elon. He loses a lot of battles but always wins the war (his goal) in the end no matter the odds against him.
 

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I don’t disagree with that comment. Elon is awkward. He will admit it himself. He is also a major troll, probably biggest one in the world. He will do things for his own amusement, even if he’s the only one who gets the joke.

The thing is I also wouldn’t bet against Elon. He loses a lot of battles but always wins the war (his goal) in the end no matter the odds against him.
Maybe he's brilliant enough to see the value in the long game....But let me ask you Do you think Elon, Vance and Trump can co-exist for 4 years?
 
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Maybe he's brilliant enough to see the value in the long game....But let me ask you Do you think Elon, Vance and Trump can co-exist for 4 years?
I think the question there is can Trump allow them to co-exist with him. We all saw the revolving door in the first term and it’s fair to ask this question. This time, Trump picked the people he surrounded himself with based on shared vision and loyalty. The first time around he had no idea what he was doing and he picked people who others say were best for the job. Vance has proved himself to share this vision and say what’s uncomfortable in the name of that vision. Elon and Trump - I really believe that shared vision will bring them to the finish line.
 

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I think the question there is can Trump allow them to co-exist with him. We all saw the revolving door in the first term and it’s fair to ask this question. This time, Trump picked the people he surrounded himself with based on shared vision and loyalty. The first time around he had no idea what he was doing and he picked people who others say were best for the job. Vance has proved himself to share this vision and say what’s uncomfortable in the name of that vision. Elon and Trump - I really believe that shared vision will bring them to the finish line.
Why do you think Vivek jumped off? Was he not down with what Elon wanted to do? Or did he see the Ohio gig as a better career choice.
 

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Maybe he's brilliant enough to see the value in the long game....But let me ask you Do you think Elon, Vance and Trump can co-exist for 4 years?
Yes, I think they can. Don't forget if it wasn't for Elon's continuous help, Trump probably would have lost the election to Kamala!!
 

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It's been discussed and confirmed hundreds of times. Any criticism of trump, whether appropriate or not is considered dissent and will be considered a hate crime that will be punishable be dath.
That's the way it should be. Trump has learned his lesson, from the mistakes he made in his first term, as President!!
 

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Yes, I think they can. Don't forget if it wasn't for Elon's continuous help, Trump probably would have lost the election to Kamala!!
I can't disagree with that...Elon will do whatever he possibly can to eliminate the woke mind virus...God help those in his path.
 

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Why do you think Vivek jumped off? Was he not down with what Elon wanted to do? Or did he see the Ohio gig as a better career choice.
Although Elon showed support for Vivek in the Republican primaries, I don’t think they worked well as 1a and 1b because let’s be realistic, Elon had the power at DOGE. I don’t think Vivek plays well as a second in command.

He also had the Ohio governor position he was gearing up for. DOGE isn’t a permanent agency. It will get disbanded next year after they’ve cleaned house in the government agencies. There were clashes on how much time Vivek would devote to DOGE.

Finally, I think Vivek wanted to go about the shut down of these agencies from the legal route. Elon wanted to do it using tech and seeing what was underneath the hood. Vivek stated this as the main difference in their vision for DOGE.
 

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Maybe he's brilliant enough to see the value in the long game....But let me ask you Do you think Elon, Vance and Trump can co-exist for 4 years?
There is however one topic which surprised me and could potentially cause a rift between Trump and Elon. The OpenAI/Softbank deal.

Everyone knows Elon hates OpenAI and Sam Altman over Elon’s initial investment of OpenAI as a nonprofit. Elon is building his own platform and it was passed over for this deal. Altman is also super liberal and has not supported Trump in the past.

I thought this might be a rift between Trump and Elon but the more I think about it, I think Elon was always in on this and Trump and Elon will make sure Altman is screwed over at the end of the day.
 
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