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Tangerinedreamer

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Just a lurker, first time poster and still a virgin to the hobby.

This morning I made my first phone call to an SP and the conversation went something like this:

Me: whats the difference in service you offer for GFE and PSE.

SP: pretty much do anything, whatever you like.

Me: So you mentioned your location was XXXXXX, is it easier to get to via public transit or by car?

SP: not really sure, because I've only been working out of this location recently. If you book through me its $___, if you book through the agency its $___. Booking through the agency they can help with answering those questions.

Me: I see... (in my mind, I become confused because I always thought the SP was independent. I'm very new to this so I just kept to myself because of my negligence, maybe I just don't know enough about the SP).

SP: the agency's number is 416... Do you need to write it down?

Me: (I cut her off and said) no, no its OK I just thought you might know off the top from other peoples experience.

SP: oh, so you want to be difficult .. well .. *profanity*profanity*profanity and don't bother to call or text again.

Me: I'm sorry if you were offended but I didn't mean any ...

The call was cut short at this point and I thought to myself, why did I even try to apologize? I was so confused ...


Anyways, long story short, was it bad manners to mention "other people"? Because that was the only sensitive spot I could think of. The phone conversation was probably only about 1-2 minutes long so there couldn't have been that much I could have said wrong surely. I just dont want to make the same mistake again and offend someone but I'm completely at a loss here.

Like I said above, never been with an SP so I'm completely inexperienced. But by that short of a conversation, I must have hit a sore point without knowing it. Can anyone chime in and guide a newb?
 
It sucks that you encountered something like this during a first attempt at hobbying. I think the issue isn't so much the mention of "other people" but more likely that she told you she had no idea, moved on to trying to seal the deal, and you kept at the transportation question. An absurdly minor detail, but who knows, maybe she had had a shitty day, maybe the last 5 calls had been cranks that she had to blow off... any number of things could have made her short with you. Or she may have thought you were trying to pinpoint her location before you showed up (often you will get a general area, then a specific location when you call from the corner of x and y streets just before the appointment), and she wasn't having any of it (only a cop or crook would want to know early. An ordinary client is happy to be told at the last minute). Whatever the reason, don't take it personally.

edited to add: re-read your post again after Scarey's comment below. I had originally glossed over the cutting her off part of your post, but yeah. Cutting her off when she asks whether you need to write the number down and saying "no no" might well have made her think you were wasting her time and not going to call and book.
 
It could be the result of many things.

I inadvertently pissed off an Indy once. I felt she wasn't as professional or patient as other ladies. Too bad. I was really attracted to her.

To answer your question, some indies are double-breasted, meaning they work for an agency as well as work themselves.
 
Ya, best guess you made it seem like you were just fucking with her. Random (but legit, I get it) transportation questions and saying you don't need the number (though I you were along an Indy that part is a little odd) and chances are she figured you were wasting her time.

Helpful hint. Just google maps that shit next time. If you get up the nerve to try again, feel free to ask for recommendations
 
OK thanks guys, I cut her off only because I was going to head down there one way or another. But I guess it didn't cone out as gracefully ...

The SP had great reviews as well and I finally chose her for my first ... Oh well ...
 
Tangerinedreamer said:
Just a lurker, first time poster and still a virgin to the hobby.

This morning I made my first phone call to an SP and the conversation went something like this:

Me: whats the difference in service you offer for GFE and PSE.

SP: pretty much do anything, whatever you like.

Me: So you mentioned your location was XXXXXX, is it easier to get to via public transit or by car?

SP: not really sure, because I've only been working out of this location recently. If you book through me its $___, if you book through the agency its $___. Booking through the agency they can help with answering those questions.

Me: I see... (in my mind, I become confused because I always thought the SP was independent. I'm very new to this so I just kept to myself because of my negligence, maybe I just don't know enough about the SP).

SP: the agency's number is 416... Do you need to write it down?

Me: (I cut her off and said) no, no its OK I just thought you might know off the top from other peoples experience.

SP: oh, so you want to be difficult .. well .. *profanity*profanity*profanity and don't bother to call or text again.

Me: I'm sorry if you were offended but I didn't mean any ...

The call was cut short at this point and I thought to myself, why did I even try to apologize? I was so confused ...


Anyways, long story short, was it bad manners to mention "other people"? Because that was the only sensitive spot I could think of. The phone conversation was probably only about 1-2 minutes long so there couldn't have been that much I could have said wrong surely. I just dont want to make the same mistake again and offend someone but I'm completely at a loss here.

Like I said above, never been with an SP so I'm completely inexperienced. But by that short of a conversation, I must have hit a sore point without knowing it. Can anyone chime in and guide a newb?
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Here is how to talk to SPs:

Are you available at Xo'clock for 1/2 hour? OK, what's your location? Thanks, see you then.
 
bubble pop said:
Here is how to talk to SPs:

Are you available at Xo'clock for 1/2 hour? OK, what's your location? Thanks, see you then.
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Actually I would start that sentence with "Hello (Sps name), my name is (so and so) would you be available.................

To answer the op's question, its hard to say, but I'd probably run with the fact that you were a time waster in her mind, Well reviewed ladies always get more hassled on the phone.
 
bubble pop said:
Here is how to talk to SPs:

Are you available at Xo'clock for 1/2 hour? OK, what's your location? Thanks, see you then.
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well cut the dude some slack. I can tell you the first few times I booked I was nervous as shit. Even now sometimes I get a little nervous for some weird reason. (maybe because I don't see them that often as I've had a regular for about 13 years that I usually go. Once in a blue moon I'll see a new one just to mix thngs up a bit)

Anyway, I actually used to tell them "hi, I'm really shy and nervous because this is the fist time I've done this so sorry if I come across as naïve". I found once I let them know that, they were usually very understanding. (I say usually cause even after I'd seen my first one, I would still be nervous when I was younger so I'd still give them the "it's my first time speech"...lol)
 
I'd suggest emailing indies or the agency to ask all these housekeeping questions. If you're dealing with a reputable agency or Indy, then they're usually happy to answer those questions. Make sure to read their ads or websites carefully though because this information is usually there.

You can Google search the general area for the best way to get there by transit or car.
 
explorerzip said:
I'd suggest emailing indies or the agency to ask all these housekeeping questions. If you're dealing with a reputable agency or Indy, then they're usually happy to answer those questions. Make sure to read their ads or websites carefully though because this information is usually there.

You can Google search the general area for the best way to get there by transit or car.
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I agree, my initial booking contact is almost always via email. Then text on morning of appointment to confirm, and another text 10 minutes before appt time to get buzzer code or other necessary info. A voice phone call is a last resort, if something's gone wrong.

And asking over the phone "what's the difference between GFE and PSE?" probably put her off right from the start, she's a prostitute not your personal Oxford English Dictionary, and not the TTC Information Desk. "Is it easier to get there by public transit or car?" !? How could she possibly know or answer (or care about) this for you?
 
Had that happen while talking to SP once or twice. Some of them are strung out and totally unprofessional. I neither apologize nor feel bad. Having a smidgen of manners and a pinch of patience is not an excessive expectation. Just move on, there are plenty of guys willing to put up with shit like this. Don't be an asswipe. Truly great providers have decent manners. You're ahead of the game, if you pass on such individuals.
 
Start off with agencies that have a phone person. Dealing with the public is not brain surgery, but it is a skill. There people in all kinds of professions who loath this part of the job and suck at it.

I found as a novice that many Indy's tend to be impatient & testy when asked too many questions, asked any version of the same question twice, and sometimes just when the call is lasting longer than they feel it should (which is very brief!). Kind of like the Female version of talking to a grumpy auto mechanic or plumber.

Note that the attitude on the phone is not necessarily indicative to what you may experience at the appointment. She could be a different way once you're on the clock. Perhaps some SP's "save" all their patience & friendliness for the session?
 
I'm with bbl in regards to mentioning you are new, and using text or email first. I've had a few ladies want to talk on the phone briefly as well after initial contact and before confirming a time.
 
To back track a bit, I first PM'd her here and asked those questions, with the title "First Timer". Her reply was text me and give me your terb username. I did what she said and asked those same questions, and she responded to the approximate location but asked me to call her about the GFE/PSE. The exchange in the opening post was the phone conversation. I did not reiterate however that I was new to this ... I probably should have ...

I'll take peoples advice to start with an agency next time. I would definitely still ask questions tho. If you can't ask what's on the menu for the different prices, then I would definitely move on to another SP.
 
Tangerinedreamer said:
To back track a bit, I first PM'd her here and asked those questions, with the title "First Timer". Her reply was text me and give me your terb username. I did what she said and asked those same questions, and she responded to the approximate location but asked me to call her about the GFE/PSE. The exchange in the opening post was the phone conversation. I did not reiterate however that I was new to this ... I probably should have ...

I'll take peoples advice to start with an agency next time. I would definitely still ask questions tho. If you can't ask what's on the menu for the different prices, then I would definitely move on to another SP.
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Check out Mirage, Eye Candy, Bon-Bons and some of the other agencies advertising here. Many have a list for each lady as to their exact services on their sites.
 
Yes an agency might be better since you'll be dealing with a phone handler to set up the session. But that person might promise anything to get you booked since he or she isn't the one who will be performing the services.

Tangerinedreamer said:
To back track a bit, I first PM'd her here and asked those questions, with the title "First Timer". Her reply was text me and give me your terb username. I did what she said and asked those same questions, and she responded to the approximate location but asked me to call her about the GFE/PSE. The exchange in the opening post was the phone conversation. I did not reiterate however that I was new to this ... I probably should have ...

I'll take peoples advice to start with an agency next time. I would definitely still ask questions tho. If you can't ask what's on the menu for the different prices, then I would definitely move on to another SP.
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Don't ask "what's on the menu" or any variation of that vague question. If there's a specific act you want, be direct and ask if she'll do it. Better yet since this is going to be your first time, forget about the "a la carte" offerings, book the appointment 'go with the flow' and enjoy the experience instead of having a goal-oriented mental checklist that must be accomplished like a Call of Duty single player campaign.
 
DanJ said:
I'm with bbl in regards to mentioning you are new, and using text or email first. I've had a few ladies want to talk on the phone briefly as well after initial contact and before confirming a time.
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I tell every girl I see that I'm a virgin.
 
Tangerinedreamer said:
To back track a bit, I first PM'd her here and asked those questions, with the title "First Timer". Her reply was text me and give me your terb username. I did what she said and asked those same questions, and she responded to the approximate location but asked me to call her about the GFE/PSE. The exchange in the opening post was the phone conversation. I did not reiterate however that I was new to this ... I probably should have ...

I'll take peoples advice to start with an agency next time. I would definitely still ask questions tho. If you can't ask what's on the menu for the different prices, then I would definitely move on to another SP.
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Can I ask you a question? playing a hunch here...

Is the SP in question let's say considerably older than 25? Not too long ago I had a completely bizarre, oddly similar exchange (PM, text, call, BS) with a well reviewed SP on here.
 
That was a rude SP. End of story.
 
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