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simon482

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You must be really bored with no Loki around to argue with.
not at all and i didn't start with you. all i said was that comparing treyvon to gsp is stupid. you started in with me and i am guessing by your arguing about TM vs GSP you are looking for arguments since now you are arguing that you are not arguing it. i could show you several posts by you arguing it.

you justified his stupidity by arguing it. if you thought it was stupid you wouldn't have even acknowledged it.

so again he made a stupid comparison and you argued his stupid comparison.
 

versitile1

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not at all and i didn't start with you. all i said was that comparing treyvon to gsp is stupid. you started in with me and i am guessing by your arguing about TM vs GSP you are looking for arguments since now you are arguing that you are not arguing it. i could show you several posts by you arguing it.

you justified his stupidity by arguing it. if you thought it was stupid you wouldn't have even acknowledged it.

so again he made a stupid comparison and you argued his stupid comparison.
Never said you started with me. BR's original statement was that TM (5'11", 160 lbs.) and GSP (5'10", 170 lbs. fighting weight) shared similar physical traits. He probably was unaware that GSP cuts weight to get to 170 lbs. I just informed him that GSP's normal weight is around 185-190 lbs. About 25-30 lbs. difference from TM's weight. Not really a stupid comparison if you didn't know about cutting weight and thought 170 lbs. is what GSP walks around at.

Everything else I threw in there to be sarcastic after BR said our definitions of "way off" were different.

Not trying to start up with you but if that's how you feel, so be it.
 

simon482

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Never said you started with me. BR's original statement was that TM (5'11", 160 lbs.) and GSP (5'10", 170 lbs. fighting weight) shared similar physical traits. He probably was unaware that GSP cuts weight to get to 170 lbs. I just informed him that GSP's normal weight is around 185-190 lbs. About 25-30 lbs. difference from TM's weight. Not really a stupid comparison if you didn't know about cutting weight and thought 170 lbs. is what GSP walks around at.

Everything else I threw in there to be sarcastic after BR said our definitions of "way off" were different.

Not trying to start up with you but if that's how you feel, so be it.
the idea that his original thought about gsp and tm was even entertained is idiotic. comparing a world class fighter who has trained his whole life (at the very least longer than tm had even been alive) to hurt people to a 17 year old kid that at best may have been in 1 or 2 fights in a school yard. it doesn't matter how you try and justify the conversation, it's just dumb. in my opinion.

and if you were not trying to start with me mur11 said the exact same thing as i did before i said. why not go after him considering his post was 20 mins before mine.
 

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From the comments in the thread thus far, its hard to tell if anyone has actually listened to the opinion piece. If he was 5'11" and 160 lb, I don' think its an exaggeration to say he was slight. Besides, if that's the most objectionable and inaccurate thing that was said, then he must have said some things that hit very close to home. I wonder why everyone is ignoring all the other things that were stated.
 

simon482

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From the comments in the thread thus far, its hard to tell if anyone has actually listened to the opinion piece. If he was 5'11" and 160 lb, I don' think its an exaggeration to say he was slight. Besides, if that's the most objectionable and inaccurate thing that was said, then he must have said some things that hit very close to home. I wonder why everyone is ignoring all the other things that were stated.
i didn't even watch the video. i know what happened and have formed an opinion which is 100% correct so i no longer need to be given more information on the topic.
 

versitile1

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the idea that his original thought about gsp and tm was even entertained is idiotic. comparing a world class fighter who has trained his whole life (at the very least longer than tm had even been alive) to hurt people to a 17 year old kid that at best may have been in 1 or 2 fights in a school yard. it doesn't matter how you try and justify the conversation, it's just dumb. in my opinion.

and if you were not trying to start with me mur11 said the exact same thing as i did before i said. why not go after him considering his post was 20 mins before mine.
Comparing TM, a 17-year old small high-school wide receiver to George St-Pierre, one of the best athletes in the world simply because they are vaguely in the same weight class and the same height is one of the stupidest comparisons to make
Give your a head a shake
I never made this comparison, BR did. I simply stated it was wrong and gave reasons for it. The other statements I made in this thread were meant as sarcasm.
 

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It's irrelevant what mainstream journalists say or now. what is a relevant is what the law is in florida.

the law says that anyone can defend themselves if they think they are in danger. (stand you ground law is even easier)

zimmerman almost certainly instigated the issue, he had a gun, and Trayvon ended up dead. but under the law, this is largely irrelevant.

something stinks in the state of florida.

z
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Yup, 5'11'' 160 lb. damn near emaciated. Just for comparison MMA star GSP, 5'10'' 170 lb.
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GSP is nowhere near 5'10" tall. He's closer to 5'8" or 5'9".

Trust me, I seen him in person. UFC will sometimes list their fighters an inch or 2 taller then they are. Major league baseball often does the same
 

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From the comments in the thread thus far, its hard to tell if anyone has actually listened to the opinion piece.
When the infamous Martin Bashir starts off with the over the top "slight young frame" do I really need to waste any more of my time given Danmand's title to this thread?
 

Zook

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I understand this is a forum, filled with people tying to be controversial, but why not try to be rational?

lol, ok, silly me.
 

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When the infamous Martin Bashir starts off with the over the top "slight young frame" do I really need to waste any more of my time given Danmand's title to this thread?
A waste of time thread, if anyone has been around the streets, you'd know that some of the smaller guys can be the most viscous.
 

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Weighing 160 lb at 5'11'' is slight. Comparing him to GSP, an adult, professional athlete, is dumb. Some people are stupid beyond comprehension.
 

Questor

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i didn't even watch the video. i know what happened and have formed an opinion which is 100% correct so i no longer need to be given more information on the topic.
I wasn't referring to you simon. Obviously you are just trolling. No point in watching the video. Its not required to troll other people for reactions.

When the infamous Martin Bashir starts off with the over the top "slight young frame" do I really need to waste any more of my time given Danmand's title to this thread?
For you, it would truly be a waste of time. We have already seen that facts and reason have no effect on you opinion. But thanks for confirming for us that you wouldn't bother viewing it before expressing an opinion about it.
 

simon482

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I wasn't referring to you simon. Obviously you are just trolling. No point in watching the video. Its not required to troll other people for reactions.
hardly trolling when all i said was comparing tm to gsp is ludicrous. that's not trolling, that is just a fact. if i was trolling i would have come up with something fancy and shocking like fuck him he got what he deserved. however i am not trolling and don't think that so i'm not gonna say it.
 
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