Filing a complaint against a cop

Smallcock

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Is not so easy.

 
I only watched 2 minutes into that and can already tell the reporter was being intentionally invasive and antagonizing the cop to get a reaction out of him
 
I only watched 2 minutes into that and can already tell the reporter was being intentionally invasive and antagonizing the cop to get a reaction out of him
So you missed the officer fingering his weapon saying, "Take one more step, see what happens." I only watched the first segment (2:42)minutes as well, but I entirely disagree.

Even if I take your word for it about the reporter, that is how 'undercover' stuff is done. Don't we want trained and experienced police dealing with ordinary citizens who have come into their Station to be professional, impartial, rather than defensive and emotional, even if the citizen is disturbed, or excited and unreasonable? In any case, all your so-called 'invasive' citizen was doing was asking one reasonable question: "Is there a complaint form I can take and fill out?" I see no reason why the cop insisted on evading that question. He did so repeatedly and with increasing anger and hostility, when he could have avoided any and all trouble with a simple "Yes" or "No". An inadequate and hostile response and unprofessional in the extreme.
 
So you missed the officer fingering his weapon saying, "Take one more step, see what happens." I only watched the first segment (2:42)minutes as well, but I entirely disagree.

Even if I take your word for it about the reporter, that is how 'undercover' stuff is done. Don't we want trained and experienced police dealing with ordinary citizens who have come into their Station to be professional, impartial, rather than defensive and emotional, even if the citizen is disturbed, or excited and unreasonable? In any case, all your so-called 'invasive' citizen was doing was asking one reasonable question: "Is there a complaint form I can take and fill out?" I see no reason why the cop insisted on evading that question. He did so repeatedly and with increasing anger and hostility, when he could have avoided any and all trouble with a simple "Yes" or "No". An inadequate and hostile response and unprofessional in the extreme
I don't necessarily disagree with you, he should have just handed him the complaint form.

But that still doesnt change the fact these so-called investigative reporters try very hard to antagonize cops so they can get some sensationalist video for the evening news. Also notice it appears some of the footage is heavily edited
 
I don't necessarily disagree with you, he should have just handed him the complaint form.

But that still doesnt change the fact these so-called investigative reporters try very hard to antagonize cops so they can get some sensationalist video for the evening news. Also notice it appears some of the footage is heavily edited
And cops who have to deal with lots of really antagonistic people are supposed to be trained and skilled at doing so professionally, and properly administering the laws of the city as the citizens want them to. Especially if they're wearing the stripes that mark them as leaders. That cop failed utterly and completely. He determinedly ignored the simple, calm request from the citizen, in order to defensively impose his SOP, without any word of explanation and ended the encounter with an ordinary citizen by his weapon-supported threat.

You may well be right about some investigative reporters' tactics, but not this one. However, as I said, undercover investigations aren't done by cops or media to show nothing of interest is happening, and this investigator was as innocuous as they come.

BTW: How do you know there was a complaint form to hand him? The point of the piece was how few South Florida PDs have any such thing at all.
 
There was indeed some I'm not going to fully cooperate on the part of the reporter. Now that may have been for a number of reasons: he had failed to think up a cover story OR he knew that a cover story could have lead to charges of filing a false report.

This would have been a better report had they sent a reporter to interview the Chief of Police as to what the procedure was, and then seen if the procedure was followed.
 
Why shouldn't it be difficult (to deal with the general public). Thats what they signed up to do, no-one candy coated the job I'm sure. They must have been told they will deal with violent and mentaly challenged individuals and their own conduct will be held to account. The problem is, some cops just believe they will be held to account.

All kinds of job descriptions have the same problem. including medical professionals. I've heard nurses who regularly go hime with cuts and bruises from patients who are intentionally or unintentionally in a conscious or otherwise way violent. They don't tell them to go home or threaten them with arrest or death if they don't stop. Some cops have an attitude that this report will help to change in a positive way.

I was referring to filing a complaint.... it should not be difficult
 
If you guys think cops should COMPLETELY obey every rule in society, you will have complete chaos and anarchy because no criminal will ever respect them.

Thats a fact!!
 
Why shouldn't it be difficult (to deal with the general public). Thats what they signed up to do, no-one candy coated the job I'm sure. They must have been told they will deal with violent and mentaly challenged individuals and their own conduct will be held to account. The problem is, some cops just believe they will be held to account.

All kinds of job descriptions have the same problem. including medical professionals. I've heard nurses who regularly go hime with cuts and bruises from patients who are intentionally or unintentionally in a conscious or otherwise way violent. They don't tell them to go home or threaten them with arrest or death if they don't stop. Some cops have an attitude that this report will help to change in a positive way.
Perhaps you might consider editing your post; I suspect you meant to say '…they will not be held to account'.
 
Gotta give me more reason than "perhaps". What did I miss?

U missed a repeat of the first few minutes where the guy was very respectful and was treated inappropriately by the receiving officer. (I'm a police supporter by and large as well).
 
I was referring to filing a complaint.... it should not be difficult

Actually it should. Too many will make false reports for any slight injustice they feel they have suffered. To save officers from false complaints, to save time, money, resources, etc. It should not be simple.

It should be laid out in layman's terms, with forms available beside the front desk of every police station. Like a work order form should be available to every tenant of every rental property but to say it should be "simple" - I can't get on board with.

So many people are willing to walk in somewhere and bitch and moan but most are not willing to go through proper channels of filing and writing out a report, meeting with a staff sergeant on another date, to talk to a lawyer, an ombudsman etc. Because 3hrs later, they don't care anymore about what happened.
 
Actually it should. Too many will make false reports for any slight injustice they feel they have suffered. To save officers from false complaints, to save time, money, resources, etc. It should not be simple.

Interesting stance. The same logic should be applied to how easy it is to allege rape/sexual assault, correct?
 
Interesting stance. The same logic should be applied to how easy it is to allege rape/sexual assault, correct?

Wow - only a troll would put filing a complaint in the same category as a serious crime. Love how you said rape not murder. Love how I am talking about filing a complaint, not pressing charges. Two completely different acts. If you are pressing charges against cop, there is a whole different policy for that. Which I didn't comment on and is not the topic of this thread.

But to squash your narrative attempt - Yes. In this day, yes. Sexual assault should be throughly investigated, following proper policies and procedures.

I feel that along with that should be support services to assist with the process and it's affects, but investigate properly through the proper channels.

Filing a complaint - again is different however as I also said and you purposely left out, filing should be done through the proper channels and I have stated those should be listed and made readily available.

But you already knew all that, didn't you pumpkin???? Thought so.

Have a lovely holiday long weekend.
 
Actually it should. Too many will make false reports for any slight injustice they feel they have suffered. To save officers from false complaints, to save time, money, resources, etc. It should not be simple.

It should be laid out in layman's terms, with forms available beside the front desk of every police station. Like a work order form should be available to every tenant of every rental property but to say it should be "simple" - I can't get on board with.

So many people are willing to walk in somewhere and bitch and moan but most are not willing to go through proper channels of filing and writing out a report, meeting with a staff sergeant on another date, to talk to a lawyer, an ombudsman etc. Because 3hrs later, they don't care anymore about what happened.
And the video shows the complete hostile opposite of that ideal.