Federal Election Called.

[dr.satan]

O.k. fellow terbites, the federal election has been called. I think that I'm going to vote strategically in this case. The dilemma that we face and hobbyists is that the Conservatives are our biggest enemy, but are still in best shape to run the country. (IMO). I would vote for the Liberals if they had a better leader. I don't think that Stephane Dion is the best leader for the party at the moment.

I think the best way to go about this is to spread votes so that there is another minority government. We as terbites do not want a Conservative majority.

What do you people think?

 

[Quest4Less]

I've never met, or even heard of a Lieberal that I would vote for.

 

[gramage]

I've never met, or even heard of a Lieberal that I would vote for.

I used to like my rep (Bill Graham), but now that it's Bob Rae it's tough.

But when I see the conservatives, and I think about what they want to do to federal powers (reduce them to the level that I would not think this country was worth keeping together) it makes me want to vote liberal anyway.

 

[banglacash]

when i see Obama/McCain in the states creating so much buzz and enthusiasm, the cynical attitude among canadians really scare me a lot.

the reason why our politics is not as exciting as the states is because we Canadians are not political. We should be enthusiastic & patriotic. It starts from individuals.

I am really excited about the election. I do like the Conservative government. Other than the Bill C-61 they didn't do anything that I would strongly oppose. There are so much fear against the Conservatives in Canada. We all believe that they have some hidden agenda as our "liberal" media shoving that idea down our throats.

I would have supporter a Conservative majority during this election but I really don't want the Bill C-61 to pass. Therefore, I would want a conservative minority.

 

[Dancerfan]

I've never met, or even heard of a Lieberal that I would vote for.

Agreed, 100%, why people,especially in Toronto are so in love with them is beyond me.........

 

[red]

I've never met, or even heard of a Lieberal that I would vote for.

well try looking at the Liberal party candidates instead.

 

[landscaper]

its started, Dion called Harper a liar May demands seat at the debate. More soap opera to follow

 

[emerging44]

Well, Harper is a liar and Dion is right to call him on it.

Harper is the guy who pushed and pushed for fixed election dates but has now decided that Parliament is Dysfunctional. He will do his best to re-invent himself during this campaign - just like Mike Harris did in the early 90's. If Harper gets in with a majority government, he will screw us over just like Bush did to the US.

Forget the labels - look at the people involved: Dion is a democrat. He will talk to people and consult with them. He's got at least three very good people around him: Ignatieff, Rae and Kennedy. Harper is a bully and a control freak and he doesnt have a single minister that he will allow the freedom to speak on any topic without his approval. He is a nobody and outside Canada, nobody even knows who he is!

This is our opportunity to blow Harper into political exile.

 

[Don]

I don't think that Stephane Dion is the best leader for the party at the moment.

Not just you:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadavotes/story/2008/09/08/mcguinty-elexn.html

 

[Don]

Some people feel Stephen Harper isn't the best Prime Minister for Canada at the moment.

At least it is no one major from his own party

 

[skidor]

Election !

Who Fucking Cares !!

 

[oldjones]

Oh c'mon. Harris was 'forced' to download welfare, highway maintenence, housing and other provincial programs onto municipalities to make his books look good? It was so he could spend more millions than in some of those programs mailing us individual bribes any fiscally responsible Premier would have just done in a line on the tax return. He sure wasn't forced to resign before his deficits landed in his patsy Ernie Eve's lap. And see, I didn't even mention Walkerton, amalgamation or Dudley George.

Harris chose to bankrupt the government he was elected to lead, because it suited his ideology. Smaller government, bad or good, whatever it costs, an ideology Harper and Flaherty share. No secret why they went to the polls before they had to bring down their next budget.

Rae was a disaster, to anyone who trusted him, but from the records, Harris coming after him only made things worse. So encourage all the Toronto-Centre voters to turf Rae out if you want, but Harris is quite smart enough not to seek elected office again. No one even seems to want his support, and he isn't in this election.

Speaking of which: IF Harper's done well, he's done it with a minority government and proved that a) this Parliament is quite functional enough and b) if you want more of the same, don't give him a majority. That would change everything.

Of course if you don't think he's done well, you won't be considering voting Tory anyway.

 

[red]

Are you joking when you call Rae good people? Have you totally forgotten the mess that he made of the province of Ontario when he was Premier?

You go on about Harris re-inventing himself.... well listen.... Harris was forced to do what he did in order to get the finances under control. It was unpopular but when it comes to belt tightening it isnt popularity that wins out.

It's amazing how short people's memory can be, seriously!

don't forget he balanced the books through some chicanery.

 

[LancsLad]

Agreed, 100%, why people,especially in Toronto are so in love with them is beyond me.........

Family reunification.



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[train]

Oh c'mon. Harris was 'forced' to download welfare, highway maintenence, housing and other provincial programs onto municipalities to make his books look good? It was so he could spend more millions than in some of those programs mailing us individual bribes any fiscally responsible Premier would have just done in a line on the tax return. He sure wasn't forced to resign before his deficits landed in his patsy Ernie Eve's lap. And see, I didn't even mention Walkerton, amalgamation or Dudley George.

Harris chose to bankrupt the government he was elected to lead, because it suited his ideology. Smaller government, bad or good, whatever it costs, an ideology Harper and Flaherty share. No secret why they went to the polls before they had to bring down their next budget.

Rae was a disaster, to anyone who trusted him, but from the records, Harris coming after him only made things worse. So encourage all the Toronto-Centre voters to turf Rae out if you want, but Harris is quite smart enough not to seek elected office again. No one even seems to want his support, and he isn't in this election.

Speaking of which: IF Harper's done well, he's done it with a minority government and proved that a) this Parliament is quite functional enough and b) if you want more of the same, don't give him a majority. That would change everything.

Of course if you don't think he's done well, you won't be considering voting Tory anyway.

You are conveniently forgetting Harris had to deal with Martin and the Liberals downloading on the province. Christ you guys just remember what fits your ideology rather than thinking for yourself.

The biggest mistake Harris made was amalgamation of TO. He didn't forsee the people of Toronto electing a pinkp mayor who would abdicate the oprerating of the city to the powerful municipal unions. Still it was a mistake. Interestingly Montreal did the same and then reveresed it recently. So why are you banging on McSquint to reverse it? God knows he's been here long enough to do something about it.

 

[oldjones]

You are conveniently forgetting Harris had to deal with Martin and the Liberals downloading on the province. Christ you guys just remember what fits your ideology rather than thinking for yourself.

The biggest mistake Harris made was amalgamation of TO. He didn't forsee the people of Toronto electing a pinkp mayor who would abdicate the oprerating of the city to the powerful municipal unions. Still it was a mistake. Interestingly Montreal did the same and then reveresed it recently. So why are you banging on McSquint to reverse it? God knows he's been here long enough to do something about it.

So was it right for Harris to download, but wrong for Martin? Could that be your ideology giving you fits?

Amalgamation certainly was bungled, and destroyed any credibility Harris might have had as a populist democrat. Certainly gotta wonder about a guy who ignores referendums that go against him, but passes a law requiring a referendum to raise taxes. Amazingly, Tories bought it. But as Harper's just demonstrated, a government can break any law a government passed. And will. Don't trust'em.

I assume you didn't bother to read your own post

So why are you banging on McSquint to reverse it? God knows he's been here long enough to do something about it.

(and God knows why I did) and you weren't really asking why I'm trying to get amalgamation reversed. Either way, like pretending to know my ideology, once again you don't know what you're talking about, and it would be politer—and smarter— to wait until I expressed my opinions before looking foolish attacking them.

 

[landscaper]

If amalgamation had been done right it would have worked just fine. In theory the amalgamation would have allowed the new council to purge itself of large amounts of middle management and get some cost efficiencys into place. The city did nothing but hire more people.

The liberal party has a lot of good people behind Dion every one on them with a knife

 

[LancsLad]

After we win, I would love to be put in charge of reducing gov't spending.

Hell, i'd do the job for free. My satisfaction would come from watching the lefties that cling to "funding" starve.



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[landscaper]

After we win, I would love to be put in charge of reducing gov't spending.



Hell, i'd do the job for free. My satisfaction would come from watching the lefties that cling to "funding" starve.

You really would not reduce spending all those millions of lefties would be on UIC ...... although the only difference would be that they would actually have to look for work now instead of just absorbing the money

 

[enduser1]

I'm voting for the Rhino party. Are You?

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