Fascinating interview with Russian commander on the new realities of warfare

nottyboi

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Impossible to have a debate with someone who lives in an alternate universe.
You can't even answer why the most powerful nation on the planet used S. Korean troops in Iraq? Yet you say its an act of desperation by Putin and you can offer no evidence other then it was reported on the news with no photos? I have seen some pix of a few claimed NK prisoners. No real proof they are Korean. Russia has a lot of asian citizens. you can't tell a Yakutian from a Korean. :

 

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You can't even answer why the most powerful nation on the planet used S. Korean troops in Iraq? Yet you say its an act of desperation by Putin and you can offer no evidence other then it was reported on the news with no photos? I have seen some pix of a few claimed NK prisoners. No real proof they are Korean. Russia has a lot of asian citizens. you can't tell a Yakutian from a Korean. :


Reading is your friend, try it and see if you can comprehend reality. They demolished Iraq with just airpower before a boot even touched the ground so take you nonsense and bullshit elsewhere where folks are dumbasses and believe it.


U.S., British, and other coalition forces quickly overwhelm the Iraqi Army, though elements loyal to Saddam who will form the core of a postwar insurgency fight on. Three weeks after the invasion, Iraqi civilians and U.S. soldiers pull down a statue of Saddam in Baghdad’s Firdos Square.
 
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They really don't have much weapons left to arm Ukraine. If there is armed conflict in the far east with China, Taiwan, Japan, Phillipines, Australia, etc. the U.S. runs out of missiles in 8 days
If this is the case Trumputin and Hegshit should be doing their job and get the weaponary manufactured. Especially if Hegshit wants to play tough guy by threatening China.

 
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They really don't have much weapons left to arm Ukraine. If there is armed conflict in the far east with China, Taiwan, Japan, Phillipines, Australia, etc. the U.S. runs out of missiles in 8 days
But China runs out of targets that America needs to hit in 7 days....
 

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Reading is your friend, try it and see if you can comprehend reality. They demolished Iraq with just airpower before a boot even touched the ground so take you nonsense and bullshit elsewhere where folks are dumbasses and believe it.


U.S., British, and other coalition forces quickly overwhelm the Iraqi Army, though elements loyal to Saddam who will form the core of a postwar insurgency fight on. Three weeks after the invasion, Iraqi civilians and U.S. soldiers pull down a statue of Saddam in Baghdad’s Firdos Square.
Yeah and because of how they did it (not killing the Iraqi army off) how long did the insurgency last? lol. In fact Saddams army evolved into ISIS. Remember "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED lol. Russia just creates a pocket in Kursk and Russia observes the guys being sent in by Zelensky for culling. Why did the mighty USA need so many people to help with Afghanistan? The USSR did it on its own and did not have the shambolic retreat at the end like the USA
 

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They have fought the Chinese before, and they were dominant as a nation at the time. How did it go?
Stalemate because the USA didn't go all out and China did.

Like your buddies in Russia, the Chinese Army is reputed to be almost useless by experts due to massive corruption and incompetence. That's the real reason they haven't taken their shot at Taiwan.
 

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Yeah and because of how they did it (not killing the Iraqi army off) how long did the insurgency last? lol. In fact Saddams army evolved into ISIS. Remember "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED lol. Russia just creates a pocket in Kursk and Russia observes the guys being sent in by Zelensky for culling. Why did the mighty USA need so many people to help with Afghanistan? The USSR did it on its own and did not have the shambolic retreat at the end like the USA
I guess the reading of facts hasn't helped with your Putin delusions. OH BOY, some folks just cannot be helped.
 

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I guess the reading of facts hasn't helped with your Putin delusions. OH BOY, some folks just cannot be helped.
What facts? Iraqi war facts? How did they do in Afghanistan? Have they been able to stop the Houthis? Have NATO weapons and training been able to defeat Russia? Do you not see the chaos impending defeat is causing in NATO? Are they still saying "as long as it takes?" 🙄
 
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But the Trump deal requires Ukraine to sign away its resources and gives Ukraine nothing in return. It's the dumbest "deal" in history. There are no demands on Russia and no security guarantees for Ukraine. And any obligation for Russia to keep up its end of any bargain will never, ever, ever be enforced by Trump who is ridiculously pro Putin because he sucks Putin's dick.
What the fuck do you think all those funding Biden sent are for? The reality is Ukraine is not a nato member, what does the US get out of funding Ukraine? Uou think the US fund grow on trees Mandy? You can't keep sending $$$ with zero ROI..that's not why Trump was voted in.
 

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What facts? Iraqi war facts? How did they do in Afghanistan? Have they been able to stop the Houthis? Have NATO weapons and training been able to defeat Russia? Do you not see the chaos impending defeat is causing in NATO? Are they still saying "as long as it takes?" 🙄
You're hilarious! I'm going to call your nonsense Notti facts in a Notti world.
 
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Stalemate because the USA didn't go all out and China did.

Like your buddies in Russia, the Chinese Army is reputed to be almost useless by experts due to massive corruption and incompetence. That's the real reason they haven't taken their shot at Taiwan.
China does lack combat experience. And their military is in a bit of chaos right now with a lot of generals being purged. But the fact that they can produce 10x the missiles that the us can and 350x the ships that the us can is something to worry about.

I think its not within their calculus that an invasion would be successful yet. But its something the west has to continually keep an eye on
 

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The US is burning all ties except with Russia and Israel.
The approach by the Trump admin is a bit puzzling towards his allies. But he is pointing out some major deficiencies with his partners and within the US.

Also, I think strengthening ties with its Asian Pacific partners is smart. Not deterring China and if it decides to make a move against Taiwan would cripple the modern economy as well as weaken the West positions in that region (Japan, SK, Phillipines, Australia, etc.)
 

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These "new realities of war" are flawed,
the only conclusion we can get is that when the 2 opposing sides are closely matched (in technology, resources, manpower, tactics, etc) it is very likely that the result will be a bloodbath and a slugfest
this was the case when the 2 sub-par, poorly trained, poorly led, corrupt, antiquate armies of Russia and Ukraine clashed

Very recently, Israel had no issues defeating well entrenched, drone armed, highly trained and highly skilled Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon

the US coalition had no problem kicking ass against battle hardened Iraquis in 91;
this was months after the end of Iran-Iraq war. And if someone tried to draw conclusions from that 8 year conflict was that offensives were costly, the battlefields static, trench warfare the norm, etc. The vast technology difference between the US and Iraq invalidated those arguments

A (conventional) war between Russia and Nato would look different
 
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