F1 race: Indianapolis (only six drivers)
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This was complete horseshit! I will NEVER watch F1 again. Seriously. The only reason I watched F1 in the first place was to see Jacques - hoping that he might pull a rabbit out of his ass and actually win a race. I'm through. It's the good 'ole boys for me! They race almost every weekend and not just NEXTEL. You got BUSCH and CRAFTSMAN too!
P.S. The NASCAR boys aren't pussies!
P.S.S. "I've raced with a wrecked car, blood in my mouth, lungs pierced, and eyes poppin' out of my head. Fuck the doctor you candyass" Rowdy Burns, 1990
P.S. The NASCAR boys aren't pussies!
P.S.S. "I've raced with a wrecked car, blood in my mouth, lungs pierced, and eyes poppin' out of my head. Fuck the doctor you candyass" Rowdy Burns, 1990
I don't think any of the fans care one bit why the teams did what they did. They showed up from around the world to see their favourite drivers race not to see seven teams fulfilling their contractual obligations.Kev said:By taking the warm up lap, the teams honour their contract to race.
If your choice is to bitch slap the very people that keep this series alive or accept a fine then you accept the fine.
One set of tires for the weekend is bullshit
Safety, huh if they wanted safety they would hve put M. Shoemaker in a Pace car long ago. The rule for one set of tires in F1 is ridiculous. With the raw acceleration & braking few tires would be safe for two hundred miles. The faster the tire, the softer the compound and Michelin outfoxed themselves on this one. It should never have been an issue as each team would have had a dozen sets of tires ranging from hard to soft compounds, wet, intermediate and dry. One motor for qualifying and racing is a good idea but one set of tires is dangerous as proven.
I've worked in F1 and it is all about the money. Ferrari has a greater race budget than all the NASCAR teams combined. Test drivers make more than Jeff Gordon. The racing series couldn't give a hoot about the fans. They will just take their money and run; but the sponsors are a different story. If you are a secondary sponsor on the cars and are an American based company you would be real pissed at losing the screen time even if they were doing 30 mph through turn 13. I am sure there were sponsors asking for their twenty million back this morning and the only thing that old, decaying Ecclestone loves more than Viagara is money.
Sponsors drive this sport and sponsorship is the true sign of being a fan. As if you and I are going to step out and buy a Ferrari but I am also sure that this race will not increase sales at US dealerships. British American Tobacco must be cacking a lung out at the thought of the Lucky Strikes brand not appearing on one car in North America. The money will set these pricks straight as this is the only race for the bag of cash. Oh and buy the way, if the Yanks had been throwing $100 bills at turn one instead of watered-down beer, I am sure Ecclestone would have dodged cars in order to pickup a roll for party time with the girls.
Safety, huh if they wanted safety they would hve put M. Shoemaker in a Pace car long ago. The rule for one set of tires in F1 is ridiculous. With the raw acceleration & braking few tires would be safe for two hundred miles. The faster the tire, the softer the compound and Michelin outfoxed themselves on this one. It should never have been an issue as each team would have had a dozen sets of tires ranging from hard to soft compounds, wet, intermediate and dry. One motor for qualifying and racing is a good idea but one set of tires is dangerous as proven.
I've worked in F1 and it is all about the money. Ferrari has a greater race budget than all the NASCAR teams combined. Test drivers make more than Jeff Gordon. The racing series couldn't give a hoot about the fans. They will just take their money and run; but the sponsors are a different story. If you are a secondary sponsor on the cars and are an American based company you would be real pissed at losing the screen time even if they were doing 30 mph through turn 13. I am sure there were sponsors asking for their twenty million back this morning and the only thing that old, decaying Ecclestone loves more than Viagara is money.
Sponsors drive this sport and sponsorship is the true sign of being a fan. As if you and I are going to step out and buy a Ferrari but I am also sure that this race will not increase sales at US dealerships. British American Tobacco must be cacking a lung out at the thought of the Lucky Strikes brand not appearing on one car in North America. The money will set these pricks straight as this is the only race for the bag of cash. Oh and buy the way, if the Yanks had been throwing $100 bills at turn one instead of watered-down beer, I am sure Ecclestone would have dodged cars in order to pickup a roll for party time with the girls.
I'm not too sure about the part where you said test drivers make more than Jeff Gordon. Jeff Gordon made about 25 million last year.
You could be very right, Kev.Kev said:George tells the FIA that, then George is out a whole lot of dough.
Since George fucked things up with Cart by bringing in the IRL, open wheel racing in North America hasn't been what it use to.
If George says your out of here FIA, then George just put another noose around his neck. IMHO.
Interesting article in Tuesday's Indy-Star:
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050621/SPORTS01/506210454
And yep: Tony George singlehandedly killed North American open-wheel auto racing. The "Greatest Spectacle In Racing" isn't even the greatest spectacle at his own race track. It takes sheer talent to be such a master fuck-up...
Speedo said:You could be very right, Kev.
Interesting article in Tuesday's Indy-Star:
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050621/SPORTS01/506210454
And yep: Tony George singlehandedly killed North American open-wheel auto racing. The "Greatest Spectacle In Racing" isn't even the greatest spectacle at his own race track. It takes sheer talent to be such a master fuck-up...
..as i said in my first post, "lets see what transpires out of all of this." The axe is going to swing on someone.
I wonder who?
Well said stang5 couldn't have said it any better!!!Let's see what France brings?
stang5 said:Ferrari and Bridgestone did nothing wrong here. Ferrari came to Indy to race and Bridgestone brought the right tire. Michelin f*cked up and expected the FIA to roll over and change the rules for them.
All of a sudden, a two-horse race (Alonso and Kimi) has now turned into a three-horse race (add MS). With 9 races still to go and with the Bridgestones making ground on the Michelins, we're in for a good battle for both titles.
Had this occurred at the French grand prix...
Next up: French grand prix (in two weeks time).
http://www.formula1.com/race/news/3231/740.html
michellin has offered to refund tickets. It does not say if it will be dollar for dollar or a cupon for tires or how.
michellin has offered to refund tickets. It does not say if it will be dollar for dollar or a cupon for tires or how.
