F-off Mike Layton

[GameBoy27]

With the current system a PEO must physically place the ticket on your vehicle. If you drive away before the ticket is void. That's the way it should be. Can you imagine if they gave them the power to write tickets without having to actually issue them on the spot? What's to stop them from writing plates down at random? Since these guys already have quotas and bonuses, it opens up the system to abuse.

Thank you Mike Layton, you've officially been handed the Adam Vaughan douche crown!

Councillors on the executive committee are also being asked to urge the province to change the legislation to allow parking enforcement officers to deliver tickets by mail to drivers who manage to drive away before being physically issued a ticket.

Councillor Mike Layton wants the change to help crack down on vehicles blocking curb lanes and bike lanes.

"Every day, as Toronto residents drive their cars, ride their bikes, or take the TTC to work or school, they are needlessly held up in traffic by individuals or delivery vehicles parked illegally in the curb lane or bicycle lane," Layton wrote in his letter requesting the change. "We have all witnessed this selfish behaviour and have been frustrated at one time or another with the actions of these individuals.

"The Province can give the authority to provincial offences officers to issue infraction notices by regular mail to ensure that the City of Toronto can enforce these important parking restrictions that keep traffic moving and fight gridlock."

Toronto Sun City Hall Bureau Chief Don Peat will be at the executive committee meeting covering all the action.

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/08/20/executive-committee-meeting

 

[james t kirk]

Actually, I don't have a problem with them nailing guys who just stop a car in a travelled lane for the sake of their convenience.

The worst offenders are UPS and FedEx and guys like that who just stop their trucks and jump out to make a delivery and all hell breaks loose..

 

[GameBoy27]

Actually, I don't have a problem with them nailing guys who just stop a car in a travelled lane for the sake of their convenience.

That's right, we have laws for that. Motorists break the law, they get a ticket.

The worst offenders are UPS and FedEx and guys like that who just stop their trucks and jump out to make a delivery and all hell breaks loose..

So how exactly is this new law going to change anything. UPS/FedEx etc. drivers don't have to pay tickets anyway so how is not having to put them on the vehicle going to change traffic flow? It only takes them 15 seconds to write a ticket in the first place. The only thing it's going to do is allow them to abuse the system.

 

[George The Curious]

It seems that today giving police more power is the only solution to counter small number of law-breakers, whom we let in this country in name of improving economy.

 

[explorerzip]

Parking fines are just a cost of doing business for the courier companies and I'm sure they make plenty to cover it. They probably have some great accountants that can bury that expense in the books. The only way the city would get the couriers to change would be to put a boot on one of the wheels.

 

[JohnHenry]

Parking fines are just a cost of doing business for the courier companies and I'm sure they make plenty to cover it. They probably have some great accountants that can bury that expense in the books. The only way the city would get the couriers to change would be to put a boot on one of the wheels.

The courier companies staple a delivery receipt to the ticket to show that they were making a delivery at that address and time, and send it back to the city, and it gets cancelled.

 

[Viggo Rasmussen]

Placing a ticket on the windshield is proof the officer witnessed this particular vehicle breaking a by-law. Layton's idea will mean even more court challenges and waste our time.
It's not like they need more business, there are plenty of drivers who get away with the current set-up.

 

[Marla]

The courier companies staple a delivery receipt to the ticket to show that they were making a delivery at that address and time, and send it back to the city, and it gets cancelled.

really? can I do that too if I am delivering something?

 

[GameBoy27]

Placing a ticket on the windshield is proof the officer witnessed this particular vehicle breaking a by-law. Layton's idea will mean even more court challenges and waste our time.
It's not like they need more business, there are plenty of drivers who get away with the current set-up.

Exactly! If they change the law to mailing tickets, what's to stop PEO from writing parking tickets for 10-15 minutes after their pay and display ticket has expired? And don't think they wouldn't do it!

 

[elmo]

It seems that today giving police more power is the only solution to counter small number of law-breakers, whom we let in this country in name of improving economy.

If you are saying that this problem is only due to immigration, rather than give police more powers that will affect the entire population, why don't we just not let these people immigrate?

 

[NorthernBear]

I'm tired of seeing delivery trucks park wherever the fuck they want to. There are no parking and no stopping zones for a reason and that reason is not to make convenient parking areas for couriers.

I think the idea of putting a boot on violators is great. With the threat of a disabled vehicle these illegal parkers would think twice about parking in illegal spots.

And if I understand correctly what I saw on the news, mailing parking tickets would be for violators in illegal spots, not for expired metres. The reason is that many parking control officers have been assaulted by drivers or hit with cars trying to get away.

Making a delivery is no excuse to park in a restricted zone.

 

[Brotherman]

It's funny. A bunch of you guys were making fun of Rob Ford for all the drama that he caused. But he actually hates the idea of changing the law and having PEO mail tickets.

Where's all the Rob Ford haters now?

 

[oldjones]

It seems that today giving police more power is the only solution to counter small number of law-breakers, whom we let in this country in name of improving economy.

'Cause not a one of us native-borns ever breaks even the teensiest of parking rules.

 

[oldjones]

It's funny. A bunch of you guys were making fun of Rob Ford for all the drama that he caused. But he actually hates the idea of changing the law and having PEO mail tickets.

Where's all the Rob Ford haters now?

Why would Rob being in favour of letting scofflaws get away be a surprise to anyone? Why would yo imagine anyone would change from anti-Ford to pro-Rob because of one more proof he's unworthy of public office?

 

[oldjones]

Placing a ticket on the windshield is proof the officer witnessed this particular vehicle breaking a by-law. Layton's idea will mean even more court challenges and waste our time.
It's not like they need more business, there are plenty of drivers who get away with the current set-up.

It 'proves' only that the officer and the vehicle were in the same place at some time or other. The officer's testimony is the proof of the offence recorded by the ticket. Lotsa folks have pulled yellow tags from under their wipers and found the goof who 'earned' the ticket had given them a wee giftie. And others have found weeks later when the mail arrived that some merry prankster had swiped theirs.

If you—and everyone else—were parked illegally as described, and pay up for your sins, there should be no increase in court costs.

 

[Viggo Rasmussen]

If you—and everyone else—were parked illegally as described, and pay up for your sins, there should be no increase in court costs.

Very true.
However, the punishment should be immediate to get people to change their bad habits.

 

[NorthernBear]

Unfortunately, the attitude of far too many people as well as a majority of guys on TERB is that if they break the law it is all right to waste taxpayer money and time to go to court.
The courts should make it a little bit less enticing to fight every ticket. I understand that there are those that get tickets that they do not deserve, but most of the people in court are just whiners that are trying to get off.

 

[explorerzip]

The courier companies staple a delivery receipt to the ticket to show that they were making a delivery at that address and time, and send it back to the city, and it gets cancelled.

Interesting how a city councillor seems to have no idea that the city is cancelling these tickets thereby condoning the illegal parking.

 

[explorerzip]

It seems that today giving police more power is the only solution to counter small number of law-breakers, whom we let in this country in name of improving economy.

So, Canadian born people never break the law?!

 

[explorerzip]

really? can I do that too if I am delivering something?

Wouldn't that be convenient on an outcall where you couldn't find parking