Evasive replies.

[PeteOsborne]

Is it just me or are replies to texts getting harder and harder to get a straight answer.
Took me 11 texts yesterday to get a straight answer to my original text.
For example, I responded to an ad with no rates or restrictions.
"Hi i'm Pete, I saw your ad on Leolist and would like to know your rates and restrictions."
Response was " When can you be here?"
Evasiveness continued from there.
Is anyone else geting the sense that this is becoming the norm?

 

[slippark18]

Is it just me or are replies to texts getting harder and harder to get a straight answer.
Took me 11 texts yesterday to get a straight answer to my original text.
For example, I responded to an ad with no rates or restrictions.
"Hi i'm Pete, I saw your ad on Leolist and would like to know your rates and restrictions."
Response was " When can you be here?"
Evasiveness continued from there.
Is anyone else geting the sense that this is becoming the norm?

Dude im newish to the "hobby" and this is getting me so fucking fed up lol. It seems like the majority of the providers are super flakey and sketchy, last night i even got stood up after driving out to a confirmed appointment. Its already sketchy to begin with but its almost impossible to even get basic details or set expectations because you can't get a straight answer and when they finally do reply again they forget the subject lol. I had one provider i was emailing with, who gave some details, i asked for an appointment, heard nothign back for days.. get a reply saying they are available... im like are you free at night perferably, and she says yes i booked you in for 4pm (how is this night)... so im like umm okay sure.. whats the location... don't hear back.. don't want to stand her up "whats the locatoin i need to know soon so i can leave.. get a message back "oh sorry babe".... its fine, answer the question whats the location. It ended up working out but it was unecessarily stressful and hectic and makes it feel super sketchy or a setup when they seem evasive on basic questions lol.

 

[Chunky Protoss]

It comes from burnout and doing work you don't want to do. The laziness kicks in and you don't really care even if you don't want the consequences to appear, your body and spirit just say fuck it. It is how it is sometimes.

 

[tbird73]

Is it just me or are replies to texts getting harder and harder to get a straight answer.
Took me 11 texts yesterday to get a straight answer to my original text.
For example, I responded to an ad with no rates or restrictions.
"Hi i'm Pete, I saw your ad on Leolist and would like to know your rates and restrictions."
Response was " When can you be here?"
Evasiveness continued from there.
Is anyone else geting the sense that this is becoming the norm?

Evasive replies are common but are not the norm. Evasiveness could mean that you're not going to get the services you desire, or that they are available at extra cost, or that the whole thing is a scam. It could also mean that a third party is answering the texts. Evasiveness is a red flag, best to avoid.

On the other hand, the replies to specific questions are often lies. So sometimes you can't win for trying.

I know, everybody is looking for that diamond in the rough. They are hard to find.

 

[cheektocheek]

Can also mean desperation just to get your cash

 

[MuffDiver]

She just wants your money and on her terms. Your satisfaction is unimportant to her. Remember, you have the money. If you do not feel comfortable or are not getting the answers you need, see someone else. Enough of the nonsense.

 

[AlmaOttawaMA]

It comes from burnout and doing work you don't want to do. The laziness kicks in and you don't really care even if you don't want the consequences to appear, your body and spirit just say fuck it. It is how it is sometimes.

It could also be the tone of the message. If the guy comes off as rude or says things like babe, babsy, sexy ect I personally don't respond to those msgs, they're generally flakey and don't book. Or if their texting just to talk, you can usually pick up on that right away.
They just wanna get to the point as they have lots of msgs to comb through. best just to be direct as possible, ask all ur questions in the first text ie/ location, rates, restrictions, and if the rates and location are good for u then book a time and set sail.

It should be that simple. I'll book someone right away if they ask all their questions in their first msg then if their ok with the location, parking, and rates and we can agree on a time they head on over. When guys txt all their questions up front I'm more than happy to see them. It's when they drag their messages out lots of girls won't respond bc it's very time consuming. you'd be surprised at how many unnecessary texts come through ie/guys sending pecker pics, their abs, wads of cash, bong pics, asking to go out with them and party or hang out at their places, ect. It's a busy industry, lots of guys and lots of girls. Theirs definitely something for everyone. Happy hobbying!

 

[NotADcotor]

Sounds like either stoned or stupid if not unmotivated. All good things to stay away from. Never had that problem myself, but I stick to the reviewed.

 

[slippark18]

It could also be the tone of the message. If the guy comes off as rude or says things like babe, babsy, sexy ect I personally don't respond to those msgs, they're generally flakey and don't book. Or if their texting just to talk, you can usually pick up on that right away.
They just wanna get to the point as they have lots of msgs to comb through. best just to be direct as possible, ask all ur questions in the first text ie/ location, rates, restrictions, and if the rates and location are good for u then book a time and set sail.

It should be that simple. I'll book someone right away if they ask all their questions in their first msg then if their ok with the location, parking, and rates and we can agree on a time they head on over. When guys txt all their questions up front I'm more than happy to see them. It's when they drag their messages out lots of girls won't respond bc it's very time consuming. you'd be surprised at how many unnecessary texts come through ie/guys sending pecker pics, their abs, wads of cash, bong pics, asking to go out with them and party or hang out at their places, ect. It's a busy industry, lots of guys and lots of girls. Theirs definitely something for everyone. Happy hobbying!

It sounds like you actually have your shit together though Alma lol. A very common thing ive encountered and seems to be a concensus on here is ask 1 questoin at a time. Often times when i ask even two pretty straight forward questions, or list off a few things, you get 1 thing partially answered.

I can sympathize with the amount of time wasters and whatnot but at least for myself im not even trying to chitchat past a greeting, trying to find out service, rates and location.. Most of the time when im finally "booked" i still can't get a super straight answer if were locked in or basic details like if i should bother driving over lol. This is obviously all anecdotal and obviously not everyone is the same.

 

[William St]

Is it just me or are replies to texts getting harder and harder to get a straight answer.
Took me 11 texts yesterday to get a straight answer to my original text.
For example, I responded to an ad with no rates or restrictions.
"Hi i'm Pete, I saw your ad on Leolist and would like to know your rates and restrictions."
Response was " When can you be here?"
Evasiveness continued from there.
Is anyone else geting the sense that this is becoming the norm?

Yes! I just sent a similar text, only to get the reply "Hi hun." I responded with "Hi how are you doing", only to get back "Fine, and you?" I responded I am fine, and that's where the pleasantries ended. Never did find out her rates. For God's sake, just send the info!

 

[purpleshaft]

Big issue in Kingston and why I've decide to hobby in Ottawa, or only see sp verified recently on terb.

 

[MissKelsey93]

Evasive replies are common but are not the norm. Evasiveness could mean that you're not going to get the services you desire, or that they are available at extra cost, or that the whole thing is a scam. It could also mean that a third party is answering the texts. Evasiveness is a red flag, best to avoid.

On the other hand, the replies to specific questions are often lies. So sometimes you can't win for trying.

I know, everybody is looking for that diamond in the rough. They are hard to find.

A thing is as well,
there have been a lot and I mean A Lot of "fake" men inquiring.
Message asking for info, making the date, confirming and either stop messaging right before the said time.
say they have arrived and in all reality haven't or just stop responding with no true explanation.
Message a bunch of ladies and never reply to the ones that do.
It gets repetitive, also when let's say 5+ men are messaging us, and we can't get back to everyone, what would you have us do? Drop real interested clients to be stood up or ghosted at the end and out of a great time? Or you have more than one account you are messaging from after you've seen one of use and we've had a bad experience or are just not interest in seeing you again.. Trying to lower the rate on us, you'd never try that at a restaurant, clothing store, etc....
Also depending on if your using a text app (thanks to Rodgers shut down) which one etc, they have been a lot of problems with them lately and cell phones lately.
I'm not defending or making excuses for anyone - I understand some women are like that, yet how many men have done that to her, how fed up is she?
I'm also not saying I'm an angel, things do happen. It's life, yet a business I know. Look at it from her point of view sometimes.
I do my own texting, I also have a second job and life is in play things happen.
No one is perfect

 

[tbird73]

A thing is as well,
there have been a lot and I mean A Lot of "fake" men inquiring.
Message asking for info, making the date, confirming and either stop messaging right before the said time.
say they have arrived and in all reality haven't or just stop responding with no true explanation.
Message a bunch of ladies and never reply to the ones that do.
It gets repetitive, also when let's say 5+ men are messaging us, and we can't get back to everyone, what would you have us do? Drop real interested clients to be stood up or ghosted at the end and out of a great time? Or you have more than one account you are messaging from after you've seen one of use and we've had a bad experience or are just not interest in seeing you again.. Trying to lower the rate on us, you'd never try that at a restaurant, clothing store, etc....
Also depending on if your using a text app (thanks to Rodgers shut down) which one etc, they have been a lot of problems with them lately and cell phones lately.
I'm not defending or making excuses for anyone - I understand some women are like that, yet how many men have done that to her, how fed up is she?
I'm also not saying I'm an angel, things do happen. It's life, yet a business I know. Look at it from her point of view sometimes.
I do my own texting, I also have a second job and life is in play things happen.
No one is perfect

Yes, you are right, there are legitimate reasons for a provider to be evasive – brushing off inquires that don't sound promising, putting people off for another day, busy with a client, taking time off, day job, etc.

 

[OnlyAl]

Agree that this is a trend and very real with a number of SP’s. I agree that one question at a time, kept short and to the point seems to be more effective in most cases.

There are some that seem to have an “Auto Responder” with standard info (services, rates and restrictions). Others that you have to piece it out of.

Seem to be more saying “I’ve had a problem with cash and now don’t take it”. At that point, I drop it. Or if a deposit is required. Not so much the risk of a few $$, more about privacy and discretion.

Kingston is a limited market, but there always seems to be at least one around that works for me, between the local standards and the touring ones. But lots of picking through stones to find a jewel. And let’s not even talk about the Asian assembly lines……

 

[William St]

Agree that this is a trend and very real with a number of SP’s. I agree that one question at a time, kept short and to the point seems to be more effective in most cases.

There are some that seem to have an “Auto Responder” with standard info (services, rates and restrictions). Others that you have to piece it out of.

Seem to be more saying “I’ve had a problem with cash and now don’t take it”. At that point, I drop it. Or if a deposit is required. Not so much the risk of a few $$, more about privacy and discretion.

Kingston is a limited market, but there always seems to be at least one around that works for me, between the local standards and the touring ones. But lots of picking through stones to find a jewel. And let’s not even talk about the Asian assembly lines……

Haha! I laughed when I first heard "I don't take cash"! You're an escort but you don't take cash?! Get real!

 

[OnlyAl]

Haha! I laughed when I first heard "I don't take cash"! You're an escort but you don't take cash?! Get real!

The challenge being most of them are scams, not escorts…..

 

[westcityside]

The challenge being most of them are scams, not escorts…..

An easy way for some guy in his Mom's basement to make some money, put up hot pics on ll and ask for a deposit. I'm sure they rake in a decent amount of cash from non-terb users, but anyone who is a member here really has no excuse to fall for that.

 

[AlmaOttawaMA]

An easy way for some guy in his Mom's basement to make some money, put up hot pics on ll and ask for a deposit. I'm sure they rake in a decent amount of cash from non-terb users, but anyone who is a member here really has no excuse to fall for that.

I've often wondered that myself. Ive had guys text me asking me I'll take a deposit before I even meet them. I find that odd so I just simply tell them it's not necessary. why would u want to send an etransfer to someone you've never met?

 

[William St]

The challenge being most of them are scams, not escorts…..

Well, sure, that was the point. An escort that doesn't take cash is obviously scamming.

 

[Theredmilf]

Just to respond to the OP, I commend you for at least including your name, that already puts you better than average. However writing and asking “rates and restrictions?” is not effective in my opinion and it’s also not a booking inquiry.

Firstly, info on rates may already be included in a provider’s ad and website. I know you said it wasn’t however most don’t bother to look. Also, rates for what length of date? For what type of service? Answering this question fully would require copying an entire page of my website which makes no sense by text.

And how are we supposed to answer a question on restrictions? These can vary by booking type, the context and by person. Are we supposed to list absolutely everything such as no tongue in ear, no agressive digits, no cum in eye or hair… You can see how impossible open-ended and non-specific questions are to answer if you think of it from a provider’s perspective, especially as we can’t possibly anticipate every situation. And many clients will claim false advertising if we don’t mention a restriction or provide all the caveats.

We can receive dozens of inquiries daily and so writing something to ask questions without communicating any intention to book makes you sound like a tire-kicker and possibly a time waster. You’re competing for a provider’s attention in a sea of inquiries, weak ones get set aside in favour of someone who sounds like they’re ready to book and already know they want to see us. Even if the provider does respond, you’ve already raised suspicions you may not be serious, so burning off goodwill to chat further without closing a booking.

To be effective, a booking inquiry should include basic information like your name, the city you’re looking for (we have people writing us from all over the globe) the date or rough date and time(s), whether incall or outcall mentioning whether hotel or residence and then what you’re looking for.

I’m personally ok with a couple of service questions or acronyms provided it’s not ridiculous or the entire laundry list but others may not be so use some discretion here. For example, “I like sensual dates and wondering if you offer kissing?”

Most of my inquiries are really weak TBH and I can see why many providers just stop responding altogether until they receive a proper booking request or remove texting as an option in favour of a booking form.

If you’re not receiving responses or worse, getting snippy ones back, it likely has something to do with your texting game. Try to remember you’re not on Tinder and include the same info you would to book any other service and this will make a lot more sense. I’m pretty sure not even my cat groomer would reply if I sent a message asking, “rates and restrictions?” or that old chestnut, “you avail?”