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Bit of reasoned perspective on the silliness that has occupied France during the last couple of weeks.

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Europe inside out

Mar 23rd 2006
From The Economist print edition
The reason why Europe finds reform so hard is that insiders are too protected

IF YOU want to know why Europe's governments have been so hopelessly slow at reforming their economies, waste no time assessing the platitudes about the “Lisbon agenda” at this week's European Union summit. Instead, ponder a few recent events around the continent.

The streets of France have been filled with huge protests against a new labour contract: the biggest so far is due on March 28th (see article). In Germany public-sector workers have staged a series of protest marches over pay. Even Britain, which has reformed its economy more than most, will next week see a big demonstration against public-sector pension changes. And in Italy's rancorous election campaign, both government and opposition have been too fearful of voters to talk about the radical reforms that the country needs.

What links all these things? In part, the perception that change is painful and that potential losers always shout louder than potential winners. This is, indeed, the classic explanation for the popular appeal of trade protection. In recent months, it has manifested itself in the vociferousness of Europeans who have been fighting not just against new labour laws but also against energy liberalisation, freer trade in services, the opening of markets to migrant labourers from central Europe and takeovers of favoured national champions.

But something else obstructs would-be reformers in Europe. This is an acute case of a particular economic complaint: the excessive protection of insiders at the expense of outsiders. In Europe, insiders have permanent jobs with nigh-impregnable security, high wages, guaranteed pensions and a still generous welfare state that they know how to exploit. They are more often male, middle-aged and white than female, young or from ethnic minorities. Many work in the public sector. Others, such as shopkeepers, taxi drivers, lawyers or pharmacists, are insulated from competition by a web of regulations. Outsiders have none of these benefits.

Worse, the few reforms that have been made have often left insiders largely untouched. France's new job contract is only for the young—and, if the government offers more concessions, it may not even help them much—while insiders will keep all their old job security. Too many labour-law changes have created two-tier markets, with an inner tier remaining protected but an outer one on temporary or short-term contracts. Pension reforms have often stopped when they reach sensitive bits of the public sector. And some governments have tried only to change welfare systems and labour laws, which is necessary if unemployment is to be reduced but can also create insecurity and drive down consumer spending. They have neglected the vital accompanying task of injecting more competition into protected industries and services, which would both create jobs and cut costs.

Besides the sheer inequity of perpetuating an insider/outsider divide through unreformed labour markets and a lack of competition, there are two big practical objections. The first is that it keeps economies so inflexible. One outcome is the high unemployment of France and Germany. But another case is Italy, where plenty of temporary jobs have been created, but protected insiders have continued to win big wage increases. Italy has reduced unemployment, but rising unit labour costs are squeezing firms out of markets, a big cause both of slow economic growth and of demands for trade barriers.

You can't buck the market for ever

That leads to the second, even bigger objection to the cosseting of insiders: in the end, it will not work. If it were possible always to insulate insiders, there might be a better argument for doing it. In Germany, for example, businesses have temporarily cut costs and regained competitiveness without ending the insider/outsider split. But they have done it without creating more jobs at home, so unemployment remains high. Thus, even in Germany the pressure of global competition is such that insiders cannot be protected from it for ever. The only real options are to accept change now, or to defer it until economies get into such straits that change is forced. The risk that much of Europe is taking by delaying reforms and appeasing protesters is that it ends up taking this second-best choice.
 

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DonQuixote said:
Good article. They're in a hopeless dilemna. They don't want emigrees,
they are having small families, and their youth can't find jobs. Who'se
going to pay the taxes when the insiders retire? A recent article said
their best and brightest are either looking for government jobs or leaving
the country. Hopless dilemna.
With any luck those with brains and initiative will come to the US.

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DonQuixote said:
With our reputation and emigration policies I think not.
They're going to Canada and Australia. Our loss.
Student visas have become a beaurocratic nightmare.
Why bother?

actually the US will continue to be a haven for the best and brightest of the world for a long time, the Economist says that 70% percent of Nobel Prize winners work in the US, a large number of foreign students who study in the US end up deciding to stay there, why go back to socialist regulation and joke pay as a civil servant teaching in a European university, when the possibility of tenure and good pay gets you in to the US
 

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DonQuixote said:
With our reputation and emigration policies I think not.
They're going to Canada and Australia. Our loss.
Student visas have become a beaurocratic nightmare.
Why bother?
They are still coming to the US. Even the best and brightest out of Canada are still coming to the US. US is still world's R&D leader
 

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they are not coming to Canada or Australia, they are going to the US, between not having their credentials recognized although the Harper government is trying to change that, we shall see how that goes, and the very few spaces available in Canadian universities, the US is still the place to be. Unfortunately Canada's economy is a service and resource based, its a 1-800 economy, compare that with the R&D done in the US and its embarrasing.
 

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Canada's brain gain

Canada's brain gain

The Canadian Institutes of Health Research now have an annual budget of almost $700-million divvied up among almost 10,000 researchers. (By contrast, the budget of their predecessor, the Medical Research Council, was $250-million and grants went to 3,500 researchers.)

There is also a $1-billion program designed specifically to lure expatriate Canadians back home as Canada Research Chairs.

And another program, run by the Canadian Foundation for Innovation, offers millions to young researchers to buy the expensive equipment they need to do top-flight research.

There are also innovative approaches like the MaRS project which is trying to transform Toronto's hospital district into a vast medical research complex.

The result is a sense of stability and confidence in the scientific community. Today, there is much more talk of "brain gain" than "brain drain."

While it's difficult to tally hard numbers, the gains are believed to be in the hundreds, quite a turnaround from a time, not so long ago, when losses were tallied in the hundreds annually.

In fact, because of its relative largesse, Canada is increasingly being viewed elsewhere as a villain rather than a victim: a wealthy country that is pilfering promising scientists from China, India, Russia and Africa.

In all the gnashing of teeth over the brain drain to the United States, this phenomenon was largely overlooked.

According to a report released by Statistics Canada in 2000, Brain Drain and Brain Gain, the notion that Canada's brain power was being sucked south at alarming levels was more fiction than reality. It showed that there were four times as many university graduates entering Canada as leaving for the United States.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060320.NOBELSIDE20/TPStory/National
 

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DonQuixote said:
Distinguish Canadians from the others. Canada has always been a bridge
to the US. I've had clients who couldn't get into the US but migrated to
Canada first. Once they became Canadian citizens it was a given they
would get US citicizenship. This procedure goes back to 1950.

They may end up going to Australia and Canada to get citizenship if they
really, really want to get here. Not questioning that. But, we've made it
a difficult problem.

By the way, you never answered my question.
I responded to your post. You should respond
to my question. Can't be too obviously unable to
answer my paradox.

Say what, sparty. Your turn.
What's your opinion, zanner?
Which question?
 

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DonQuixote said:
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What's your opinion, zanner?
the U.S. will still attract the best and brightest from around the world. Taxes are less, the income is great for many professional jobs.

I visit my alma mater quite frequently. Alma mater is U of Michigan -Ann Arbor - GO BLUE (i just had to put that in) and I have noticed a huge boom in population in Ann Arbor. Many from the east have called Ann Arbor home recently. Many of them are enigeeners and others work at Pzifer's research and development plant there. I think that more of them will be allowed into the states.

Further there are still plenty of kids who want to study in the states. I look at the LLM for example. Many of the people completing an LLM these days are from foreign countries. The LLM does not mean that much for americans but to many foreign students its a ticket to landing a job at top tier wall street law firm.
 
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Reverse brain drain threatens U.S. economy

Reverse brain drain threatens U.S. economy

Until recently, if Americans heard the words "brain drain," they knew clearly what that meant: Bright, talented scientists, engineers and other techies from all over the world were migrating to the United States. They were drawn here by the world's best universities, the most dynamic companies, the freest economic and social environment and the highest standard of living.

Today, while many of these conditions still apply, Americans are starting to hear a new term: "reverse brain drain." What it suggests is the United States is pursuing government and private-sector policies that, over the long run, could lead to a significant shift in the world's balance of brainpower.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-02-23-economy-edit_x.htm
 

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DonQuixote said:
Before anyone criticizes my position I strongly suggest this site posted by
scroll. This is exactly what I was referring to. Anecdotal info and personal
opinion is valid, but this article affirms my readings. We're in denial of our
response to 9/11. And I am not nor will I bash Bush. This reversal of the US
as being THE destination all started because of our response to 9/11.

The American people had two choices:

A. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

B. We are under attack and must protect US.

The Americans chose B. I hoped for A.

We've surrendered our cultural values for personal security.
On a cost-benefit analysis we've surrendered freedom for
no benefit.

Don = Airborne :(
Gee what a surprise, you endorse an opinion piece with no facts to back its bold assertions.

Now comes the multiculturally sensitive response complete with hundreds of years of irrelevent historical blathering.

Better yet, "don't bother".
 

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DonQuixote said:
With our reputation and emigration policies I think not.
They're going to Canada and Australia. Our loss.
Student visas have become a beaurocratic nightmare.
Why bother?
Becasue the best schools are here, something like 90 of the top 100 in the world!

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Anyone want to make predictions on what France will do, I'm guessing they follow that proud tradition of surrender and bow to the street.

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In a very dark place
Thats why the main boulevards in Paris are so wide. it makes it easy for the German tanks to navigate.

there really is nothing wrong with France that a good nuc wouldn't fix.
 

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Europe is funny in some ways. In places like France, the State makes all sort of chest-beating, grandiose, and openly totalitarian claims to supremacy- against the isolated individual, that is. But when it comes up against the unions or other organized social groups, which hedge about the ostensibly supreme and irresistible power of the State as rival powers in their own right, the State often appears rather less than omnipotent. It seems that the French State, in its sovereign majesty, is powerful to tell teenage girls what to wear in school or employers how to run their businesses, but relatively impotent to keep order in the streets or make policy as it sees fit.
 

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I was in Paris last Saturday - the downtown streets were nearly devoid of anyone French, it was mainly tourists who had money to spend. This is the miracle of socialist economy - pursue policy that fucks things up beyond recognition and then bury their heads in the sand. Such a same to see such a great city in a state of rot, although it must be considered that those who built such splendors had nothing in common with the wretched scoundrels in charge of the State today.
 

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sparty86 said:
Gee what a surprise, you endorse an opinion piece with no facts to back its bold assertions.

Now comes the multiculturally sensitive response complete with hundreds of years of irrelevent historical blathering.

Better yet, "don't bother".
DQ = pwn3d
 

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Approximately 20 years working with post-secondary students overseas:

There was no overarching desire to come to the US to attend university, although some did. Students offered oportunity to study abroad seemed to universally look for what was the best deal for them. Other main rationale was a personal connection - they know someone there. Quite often strictly financial reasons precluded the US. Rather, I noticed the opposite: anecdotal talk of racism, crime and transportation complexities in America had many students pursuing opportunities elsewhere.

Most often students are sponsored as part of a country's foreign-aid program; therefore, if it's a Swedish project for example, students would be sponsored to a university in Sweden. In my experience, a majority of students studying abroad arrived at their university by this route.

Facts of how the process works belie patriotic fervour. However, the story is probably different for doctoral candidates and post-doctoral research as funding models are quite different.
 

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onthebottom said:
Anyone want to make predictions on what France will do, I'm guessing they follow that proud tradition of surrender and bow to the street.

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Damn, right again:

France scraps youth job law

By Matthew Bigg

PARIS (Reuters) - French
President Jacques Chirac bowed to weeks of angry protests on Monday and scrapped a youth job law in a climb-down that undermined his prime minister and handed victory to opponents of the law.

Chirac's decision was a personal blow to Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, who had championed the First Job Contract (CPE) as a vital job-creating reform of the French economy but who had seen his popularity slump as mass opposition grew.

The government U-turn over the CPE makes it unlikely France will attempt broader reform of its highly regulated labor market before 2007, economists said.

Villepin said in a television address he regretted that the strikes and street protests showed the CPE could not be applied.

"The necessary conditions of confidence and calm are not there, either among young people, or companies, to allow the application of the First Job Contract," Villepin said, adding he would open talks with unions on youth employment.

He later told TF1 television he hoped to learn from the two-month ordeal and denied his presidential prospects had suffered, saying he had never been interested in the job.

A protest march in Paris planned for Tuesday should show whether student anger over the contract has abated.

"Today is a defining victory but there are still many issues outstanding," said Bruno Julliard, who heads the UNEF student union. He was referring to other parts of the government's employment policies but did not spell out future student action.

Villepin had said the CPE would reduce youth unemployment of 22 percent. Lack of jobs is the country's number one political issue and a major reason for weeks of rioting in poor suburbs late last year.

The "easy hire, easy fire" CPE would have allowed firms to sack workers under 26 without giving a reason during a two-year trial period.

The prime minister's poll ratings plunged as opposition to the measure mounted, damaging his chances of becoming the ruling UMP party's candidate for president in elections in 2007.

"The president ... has decided to replace article eight of the equal opportunities law with measures to help disadvantaged young people find work," the presidency said in a statement.

A DROP OF CHAMPAGNE

Chirac and Villepin were careful to say that the CPE, part of a wider law on equal opportunities, was being "replaced" rather than repealed. Unions who opposed the measure, arguing it would create insecurity for young workers, declared victory.

"Perhaps we will drink a drop of champagne. This is an undeniable victory for a social movement," said Gerard Aschieri, secretary of the FSU union.

A confederation of unions said that despite the decision to abandon the CPE they would "remain vigilant" until new measures became law and would support Tuesday's marches but have announced no future dates for action.

The new measures include increased financial incentives to employers to hire people under 26 who face the most difficulties in getting access to the labor market, Employment Minister Jean-Louis Borloo said in an interview with Le Monde newspaper.

That would apply to approximately 159,000 young people currently hired under government-subsidized job contracts and the cost to the government would be around 150 million euros ($180 million) in the second half of 2006, Borloo said.

The measures, financed by an increase in tax on tobacco, could be introduced in parliament as early as Tuesday, said a senior UMP deputy but there were doubts over further reform.

"The question is whether this has signed away the possibility of reform in the longer term," said David Naude, economist at Deutsche Bank.

UMP leader Nicolas Sarkozy, the interior minister and Villepin's main conservative rival for 2007, said the battle now was to prevent the CPE crisis tainting all reform in France.

"I would not want the idea of reform now to be carried off by this unfortunate affair," he told the Le Figaro in an interview out on Tuesday.

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