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Anyone else notice how many posts notty has made while avoiding that issue (or Abbas calling an attempted assassin a hero)?
I don't know why ANYBODY, including myself, even bother with him, all he does is avoid the issue at hand, or simply reply to a post with an insult.

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Needless to say this will not change the fact that Hamas is still listed as a Terrorist Organization by Canada and the U.S.A. While it's Military Wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades is listed as a Terrorist Organization by Australia, the U.K. and New Zealand.
Nor does it change the reality that Hamas is made up of Jew-hating terrorists -- regardless of what lists it is on or off.
 

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Anyone else notice how many posts notty has made while avoiding that issue (or Abbas calling an attempted assassin a hero)?
In another thread, Nottyboi claimed that Israel "fled" from Gaza in 2005.

At that point, his posts crossed a line from erroneous to delusional.
 

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Oh stop your nonsense, not "ordered" by the Hamas leadership does NOT mean they were not Hamas. They were Hamas. Hamas has confirmed they were Hamas. Hamas has praised what htey did. The fact that this terror cell was operating somewhat independently of Hamas prime is just typical of the way terrorist cells work.

And no it would not be the same as saying Israel is responsible for the murder of the Arab kid, you would have to be really stupid to think that. No part of the Israeli government was involved. Not some cell of the Israeli government operating independently, and Israel sure as hell didn't praise the act later -- on the contrary, it is aggressively prosecuting the perpetrators.

And you have further failed to tell me when hamas has ever prosecuted anyone for an attack on Israel. Ever.
Of course it was exactly the same. You are trying blame by affiliation. They were settlers, does that mean all settlers are to blame. Hamas was quick to deny responsibility here. The perps were in an Israeli controlled area so expecting Hamas to prosecute them is idiotic. As for the Israeli prosecution, did they demolish the familys home? I don't think so. So why do they do this when Arabs are involved? The only explaination - RACISM. You don't think some extremists in Israel praised these people? Also several others suspected of supporting the kidnapping and murder were released.
 

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Palestinians have the choice to reject the violent policies of Hamas and even Fatah's military wing and agree that Israel has a right to exist. Until their leaders do so the people will still be shat upon.


And on the topic of Palestinian leadership...


Most Palestinians accuse Abbas of silencing dissent

Two-thirds are afraid to criticize the PA president, poll shows; over 80 percent say corruption rampant

http://www.timesofisrael.com/most-palestinians-accuse-abbas-of-silencing-dissent/#ixzz3MBxzVE5s

Hamas isn't much better. They stopped asking about the Hamas government because of the supposed reconciliation deal but in March 65% said Hamas was corrupt.
They will be shat on regardless. They were before Hamas, so what makes you believe in this fairy tale of peace?
 

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That kind of defines you doesn't it?
And it isn't pretty
What do you expect them to do? Take it up the ass like you would? At least they don't look into video monitors and launch missiles at buildings when they can see women and children on the roof.
 

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...Hamas was quick to deny responsibility here.....
...As they were praising the act. The same as when they praised the butchering of four old guys praying, driving of cars into bus stops and killing infants.

I used to think you were a hypocrite for praising attacks on Israeli civilians then complaining about the deaths or arrests of the perpetrators. Now I realize it isn't hypocrisy. You don't think those committing those terror acts did anything wrong. Only Israeli Jews do things wrong like standing at bus stops or praying.
 

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They will be shat on regardless. They were before Hamas, so what makes you believe in this fairy tale of peace?
Does that now mean you admit most Palestinian militants won't accept any peace that includes Israel existing or Jews with equal rights?
 

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Of course it was exactly the same. You are trying blame by affiliation. They were settlers, does that mean all settlers are to blame. Hamas was quick to deny responsibility here. The perps were in an Israeli controlled area so expecting Hamas to prosecute them is idiotic. As for the Israeli prosecution, did they demolish the familys home? I don't think so. So why do they do this when Arabs are involved? The only explaination - RACISM. You don't think some extremists in Israel praised these people? Also several others suspected of supporting the kidnapping and murder were released.
You are full of shit. The killers of the Israeli teens were confirmed and acknowledged members of Hamas. The killers of the Arab kid were not part of the Israeli state. Hamas praised the killing of the Israeli teens. Israel condemned the killing of the Arab. Israel is prosecuting the killers of the Arab kid. Hamas has never, ever prosecuted anyone for killing Israelis.

Crawl back under your bridge.
 

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The killers of the Israeli teens were confirmed and acknowledged members of Hamas. The killers of the Arab kid were not part of the Israeli state. Hamas praised the killing of the Israeli teens. Israel condemned the killing of the Arab. Israel is prosecuting the killers of the Arab kid. Hamas has never, ever prosecuted anyone for killing Israelis.
Those are enormous differences.

Nottyboi likes to stroke himself by claiming his historically and intellectually butchered attempts at moral equivalency represent some sort of high ground. They are nothing of the sort.
 

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You are full of shit. The killers of the Israeli teens were confirmed and acknowledged members of Hamas. The killers of the Arab kid were not part of the Israeli state. Hamas praised the killing of the Israeli teens. Israel condemned the killing of the Arab. Israel is prosecuting the killers of the Arab kid. Hamas has never, ever prosecuted anyone for killing Israelis.

Crawl back under your bridge.
Some people praised the killing if the Israeli teens. The killers of the Arab teens did get support from extremist elements in Israel. Hamas denied involvement in the killing of the Israelis and the press in its attempts to pin it on Hamas made some vague claims that various people praised it. I think Hamas praised it when it was a kidnapping hoping it could be used as a prisoner exchange, but using google I was unable to find any evidence that their murder was praised by Hamas. The praises were all on the context of Israel releasing Palestinian prisoners as far as I can see.

To me the murder of the Israelis was a kidnapping gone bad, the massive Israeli response likely cause the kidnappers to panic. The murder of the arab kid was especially evil as they took him with the express intent to horribly torture him to death. It was incredibly sadistic. They took him to a forest, and doused him with gasoline and set him on fire. Utterly evil. The students were kidnapped initially with the hopes of exchanging them for Pali prisoners as is most of these kidnappings. But the overreaction by the Israeli authorities probably panicked the kidnappers.
 

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Some people praised the killing if the Israeli teens. The killers of the Arab teens did get support from extremist elements in Israel. Hamas denied involvement in the killing of the Israelis and the press in its attempts to pin it on Hamas made some vague claims that various people praised it. I think Hamas praised it when it was a kidnapping hoping it could be used as a prisoner exchange, but using google I was unable to find any evidence that their murder was praised by Hamas. The praises were all on the context of Israel releasing Palestinian prisoners as far as I can see.

To me the murder of the Israelis was a kidnapping gone bad, the massive Israeli response likely cause the kidnappers to panic. The murder of the arab kid was especially evil as they took him with the express intent to horribly torture him to death. It was incredibly sadistic. They took him to a forest, and doused him with gasoline and set him on fire. Utterly evil. The students were kidnapped initially with the hopes of exchanging them for Pali prisoners as is most of these kidnappings. But the overreaction by the Israeli authorities probably panicked the kidnappers.
Your justification of the kidnapping and subsequent killing of the Israeli teens by blaming it on "overreaction by the Israeli authorities probably panicked the kidnappers" is an utterly disgusting attempt to put lipstick on a pig. You are a pathetic terrorist-sympathiser, and completely degenerate human being.
 

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To me the murder of the Israelis was a kidnapping gone bad, the massive Israeli response likely cause the kidnappers to panic.
Sure thing.

And I'm guessing you believe some of the ISIS beheadings were shaving incidents "gone bad."
 

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Reality is so much better than fiction. Funnier, too. The EU removes Hamas from terrorist list and, today, Hamas celebrates by firing a missile into Israel. You can't make this shit up!
 

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The EU removes Hamas from terrorist list and, today, Hamas celebrates by firing a missile into Israel. You can't make this shit up!
Let's not jump to rash conclusions.

It may have just been a fireworks display "gone bad."
 

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What do you expect them to do? Take it up the ass like you would? At least they don't look into video monitors and launch missiles at buildings when they can see women and children on the roof.
I expect them not to launch rockets at anyone, but especially not civilians
If you were not driven by hatred you would find that 99% of sane people take the same view

You disgust me
 

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Some people praised the killing if the Israeli teens. The killers of the Arab teens did get support from extremist elements in Israel...
Slight difference. Palestinian government praised one. Only a fringe of Israeli society praised the other. The Israeli government on the other hand widely condemned it and quickly arrested the perpetrators.
 
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