Anyone else notice how many posts notty has made while avoiding that issue (or Abbas calling an attempted assassin a hero)?...and Hamas has subsequently outright praised their actions....
Anyone else notice how many posts notty has made while avoiding that issue (or Abbas calling an attempted assassin a hero)?...and Hamas has subsequently outright praised their actions....
I don't know why ANYBODY, including myself, even bother with him, all he does is avoid the issue at hand, or simply reply to a post with an insult.Anyone else notice how many posts notty has made while avoiding that issue (or Abbas calling an attempted assassin a hero)?
Nor does it change the reality that Hamas is made up of Jew-hating terrorists -- regardless of what lists it is on or off.Needless to say this will not change the fact that Hamas is still listed as a Terrorist Organization by Canada and the U.S.A. While it's Military Wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades is listed as a Terrorist Organization by Australia, the U.K. and New Zealand.
In another thread, Nottyboi claimed that Israel "fled" from Gaza in 2005.Anyone else notice how many posts notty has made while avoiding that issue (or Abbas calling an attempted assassin a hero)?
Of course it was exactly the same. You are trying blame by affiliation. They were settlers, does that mean all settlers are to blame. Hamas was quick to deny responsibility here. The perps were in an Israeli controlled area so expecting Hamas to prosecute them is idiotic. As for the Israeli prosecution, did they demolish the familys home? I don't think so. So why do they do this when Arabs are involved? The only explaination - RACISM. You don't think some extremists in Israel praised these people? Also several others suspected of supporting the kidnapping and murder were released.Oh stop your nonsense, not "ordered" by the Hamas leadership does NOT mean they were not Hamas. They were Hamas. Hamas has confirmed they were Hamas. Hamas has praised what htey did. The fact that this terror cell was operating somewhat independently of Hamas prime is just typical of the way terrorist cells work.
And no it would not be the same as saying Israel is responsible for the murder of the Arab kid, you would have to be really stupid to think that. No part of the Israeli government was involved. Not some cell of the Israeli government operating independently, and Israel sure as hell didn't praise the act later -- on the contrary, it is aggressively prosecuting the perpetrators.
And you have further failed to tell me when hamas has ever prosecuted anyone for an attack on Israel. Ever.
That kind of defines you doesn't it?Well that's the point isn't it? To discourage occupation....duh!!! Do you suggest they lob missiles into the desert?
They will be shat on regardless. They were before Hamas, so what makes you believe in this fairy tale of peace?Palestinians have the choice to reject the violent policies of Hamas and even Fatah's military wing and agree that Israel has a right to exist. Until their leaders do so the people will still be shat upon.
And on the topic of Palestinian leadership...
Most Palestinians accuse Abbas of silencing dissent
Two-thirds are afraid to criticize the PA president, poll shows; over 80 percent say corruption rampant
http://www.timesofisrael.com/most-palestinians-accuse-abbas-of-silencing-dissent/#ixzz3MBxzVE5s
Hamas isn't much better. They stopped asking about the Hamas government because of the supposed reconciliation deal but in March 65% said Hamas was corrupt.
What do you expect them to do? Take it up the ass like you would? At least they don't look into video monitors and launch missiles at buildings when they can see women and children on the roof.That kind of defines you doesn't it?
And it isn't pretty
So in notty's mind, terrorism is a valid way to resolve conflict.Well that's the point isn't it? To discourage occupation....duh!!! Do you suggest they lob missiles into the desert?
...As they were praising the act. The same as when they praised the butchering of four old guys praying, driving of cars into bus stops and killing infants....Hamas was quick to deny responsibility here.....
Does that now mean you admit most Palestinian militants won't accept any peace that includes Israel existing or Jews with equal rights?They will be shat on regardless. They were before Hamas, so what makes you believe in this fairy tale of peace?
You are full of shit. The killers of the Israeli teens were confirmed and acknowledged members of Hamas. The killers of the Arab kid were not part of the Israeli state. Hamas praised the killing of the Israeli teens. Israel condemned the killing of the Arab. Israel is prosecuting the killers of the Arab kid. Hamas has never, ever prosecuted anyone for killing Israelis.Of course it was exactly the same. You are trying blame by affiliation. They were settlers, does that mean all settlers are to blame. Hamas was quick to deny responsibility here. The perps were in an Israeli controlled area so expecting Hamas to prosecute them is idiotic. As for the Israeli prosecution, did they demolish the familys home? I don't think so. So why do they do this when Arabs are involved? The only explaination - RACISM. You don't think some extremists in Israel praised these people? Also several others suspected of supporting the kidnapping and murder were released.
Those are enormous differences.The killers of the Israeli teens were confirmed and acknowledged members of Hamas. The killers of the Arab kid were not part of the Israeli state. Hamas praised the killing of the Israeli teens. Israel condemned the killing of the Arab. Israel is prosecuting the killers of the Arab kid. Hamas has never, ever prosecuted anyone for killing Israelis.
Some people praised the killing if the Israeli teens. The killers of the Arab teens did get support from extremist elements in Israel. Hamas denied involvement in the killing of the Israelis and the press in its attempts to pin it on Hamas made some vague claims that various people praised it. I think Hamas praised it when it was a kidnapping hoping it could be used as a prisoner exchange, but using google I was unable to find any evidence that their murder was praised by Hamas. The praises were all on the context of Israel releasing Palestinian prisoners as far as I can see.You are full of shit. The killers of the Israeli teens were confirmed and acknowledged members of Hamas. The killers of the Arab kid were not part of the Israeli state. Hamas praised the killing of the Israeli teens. Israel condemned the killing of the Arab. Israel is prosecuting the killers of the Arab kid. Hamas has never, ever prosecuted anyone for killing Israelis.
Crawl back under your bridge.
Your justification of the kidnapping and subsequent killing of the Israeli teens by blaming it on "overreaction by the Israeli authorities probably panicked the kidnappers" is an utterly disgusting attempt to put lipstick on a pig. You are a pathetic terrorist-sympathiser, and completely degenerate human being.Some people praised the killing if the Israeli teens. The killers of the Arab teens did get support from extremist elements in Israel. Hamas denied involvement in the killing of the Israelis and the press in its attempts to pin it on Hamas made some vague claims that various people praised it. I think Hamas praised it when it was a kidnapping hoping it could be used as a prisoner exchange, but using google I was unable to find any evidence that their murder was praised by Hamas. The praises were all on the context of Israel releasing Palestinian prisoners as far as I can see.
To me the murder of the Israelis was a kidnapping gone bad, the massive Israeli response likely cause the kidnappers to panic. The murder of the arab kid was especially evil as they took him with the express intent to horribly torture him to death. It was incredibly sadistic. They took him to a forest, and doused him with gasoline and set him on fire. Utterly evil. The students were kidnapped initially with the hopes of exchanging them for Pali prisoners as is most of these kidnappings. But the overreaction by the Israeli authorities probably panicked the kidnappers.
Sure thing.To me the murder of the Israelis was a kidnapping gone bad, the massive Israeli response likely cause the kidnappers to panic.
Let's not jump to rash conclusions.The EU removes Hamas from terrorist list and, today, Hamas celebrates by firing a missile into Israel. You can't make this shit up!
I expect them not to launch rockets at anyone, but especially not civiliansWhat do you expect them to do? Take it up the ass like you would? At least they don't look into video monitors and launch missiles at buildings when they can see women and children on the roof.
Slight difference. Palestinian government praised one. Only a fringe of Israeli society praised the other. The Israeli government on the other hand widely condemned it and quickly arrested the perpetrators.Some people praised the killing if the Israeli teens. The killers of the Arab teens did get support from extremist elements in Israel...