Escorts who don't see Blacks/Indians/Pakistanis

[Kitty]

Hello
I am the escort who posted about not wanting to see black and east Indians.



I like to provide quality sessions. I believe communication is a very important part of an encounter. If I can not communicate with a client it is hard for me to provide them with that quality.

It is also very frustrating for me to have to deal with certain behaver from certain people who call me. I like to be pleasant when I answer my phone and when I am frustrated with a caller before a client with a real inquiry calls I would not like to take that frustration out on him.

As for comparing an escort to a restaurant

There is a difference between serving food and providing an intimate encounter.

If I get a client who calls me and is articulate sweet and down to earth who does not negotiate my rate or is rude I will have an encounter with him.

Take care and happy hunting

 

[sorely]

I don't see how you can judge your comfort level with someone until you have spent time with them,on the phone and in person unless they say threatening or questionable things. To write off certain groups of people because of their accents, colour, race or religion is racist and bigotted. There is no other way to look at it.

Sexual acts provided by sp's, hookers or prostitutes are, for the most part , simply commodities just like food or having your teeth cleaned. To think you get intimacy from these encounters is a significant stretch, or else , you really need a life.

Many of these posts are truly troublesome.

 

[Marco]

Go figure

Booked an appointment with an Asian escort. She was really curious about my exact nationality. And when she found out I was a southern European she called me a player in a non flattering way and said something to the effect that I've probably been with 300 women. Eventhough she was the SP. Very cold person and made me think... if I was black or Indian I would have called her a racist.

 

[Samantha Jones]

I know one escort here once said she doesn't want to see race "x" and was roasted as a racist.
However I would have to say 70-80% of my regulars whom are among the Top 20 reviewed escorts have stated the same thing to me.

I have had Asian, Black, and white girls state that they won't see race "x". Never heard an escort say she won't see a European guy.

Most of my regulars say they won't se Indian/Pakistani men. they seem to b ethe number one on the exclusion list.

I know many escorts will flame me for saying this but I know a lot of escort exclude these men.

Since I am not expecting an honest response from Escorts I am asking my fellow collegues:

Are there any of the three races that I have mentioned who have had a hard time booking escorts or have escorts arrived and made excuses to leave??

I know in Montreal and especially Quebec city I am asked outright if I am "Hindu or Black".

So what's the dirty little secret with escorts?
I have a feeling many act repulsed by this ideal in public but in fact have that policy. I could name 10 well known ones ( I won't) off hand.

Ok I am going to jump in- I generally opt to avoid Dutchmen- they are too mechanical for me-(now I say generally- if the man seems genuine, fun, interesting in his e-mails i will still meet with him), .
I had 3 bad experiences with them- maybe its the Amsterdam "$19.00 for 10 minutes for the girl in the window syndrome?" but comments from them like-"well its been 10 minutes now shall we take our clothes off?", "can you please move 6" to the right on the mattress?", when I have to ask them for even a glass of water- yes I am used to being offered at least a good wine!-and no music, stilted conversation- bottom line boring ,mechanical, no passion-ugh!

I had a funny experience where I had made an appt with a new client, a physician,- then when he phoned me en route to give me his room # I detected a Dutch accent-"Damn " I said to myself- I've screwed up ,he's dutch-well all the way there i was dreading this evening!

I knocked at the door,stepped in to find a good-looking East Indian man - I broke into a smile, sighed with relief and said to him- "I am sooo glad you aren't Dutch!!"
Well this man just broke into the bigest smile, we both had a good laugh as I explained. Turned out he had worked in Amsterdam for 10 years-thus the accent! And yes he had experienced the bias before.


Now since then I received an e-mail request for an appt from another fellow. Stating that all his previous experiences with escorts had been awful and he was still looking for someone- me - to change that. From the name I became weery- I asked in my return letter if he was dutch- he said yes-. then i wrote back politely declining to see him.
He was , understandably angry with me- he wrote back- "well Samantha I am suprised at your bigotism. Oh well, your loss, all the other ladies I have seen had such a good time that they tipped me!Ba-da-boom!"

I wrote back to him- "thank you for re-confirming my feelings about Dutchmen- I am more pleased than ever that I have refused to meet you."

 

[sorely]

How do you test cleanliness over the phone ?

Is smelling different necessarily a cleaniness issue ?

I agree that attitude is important; however , faking a good attitude is very easy ? In such a case, bad attitude may be the least of your problems !!

Any john with half a brain can get past the attitude test quite easily. So, where does that leave you , unless you meet the person ( with its inherent risk)?

 

[Sasha Jones]

Any john with half a brain can get past the attitude test quite easily. So, where does that leave you , unless you meet the person ( with its inherent risk)?

You would be suprised at how many people assume that you will be all gung ho to meet them after they have sent you emails saying they want to rape your ass and pics of thier "manhood" just so we can have an idea who we will be meeting.

Any man with half a brain likely has enough respect for women that he refrains from displaying this type of behaviour, both in emails and in session.

No, you can't judge whether a person is clean or not on the phone. You also can't tell if he is a serial killer either, but you can get a pretty good idea of what type of person he is.

When you have been in the business for a while and your life depends on your intuition, you get pretty good at sizing people up. When I used to take appointments by phone I could pretty much tell if I was going to see a person or not as soon as they said "hello".

The fact that these terrible stereotypes are in the minds of some SP's and hobbyists STILL in this day and age is sad as hell to say the least.

Yes, but even though some of these stereotypes are in the minds of SP's, some of us are smart enough to know that most of them are just plain silly.

Having apprehensions about a meeting is much different than flat out refusal. And as I said before those apprehensions are usually put to rest within about 5 seconds of walking in the door.

 

[olguy]

I am Suprised By Samantha Jones obvious racism.
So blatant and so unnerving. Reminds me of Gestapo gurad talkig bad about Jews as if it's "ok" to do it.

Samantha just because you pickedon a PC Approved target what you said is still racist.

I would never see a lady like you.

Replace Dutch with Black or East Indian and most people would be all over you but because it was European it's "ok".
In my eyes you are every inch the racist that escorts who exclude black me.

 

[olguy]

I honestly hope so. I didn't peg her as that close minded but who knows nowadays.
If it was then I apologize. If it wasn't then shame on her.

 

[revolver]

Errr, no, you are.

I don't agree. Sorely compared escorts to restauranteurs. I don't see that as a fair comparison. One is regulated by laws the other is not. Business for one is carried out in a public place the other is not. One is completely on her own while carrying out 'business' the other is not. Surely you can see a difference here.

What about a taxi driver?

Agreed, a taxi driver does have personal safety issues to deal with. They do have 'some' mechanisms to deal with them. Warning lights, the car horn, a network of other taxi drivers watching out for trouble. What similar mechanism does an escort have, once she's behind locked doors?

They clearly have issues with personal safety. Is it okay for them to refuse rides to young, black men because they don't feel comfortable with them?

I guess that depends who you ask. If you ask me sitting here at my PC I can say, no, it's not right. That's morally wrong. But ask the taxi driver and you might get a different answer. How about if he comes upon a group of young white guys, or green (whatever), that are clearly intoxicated and acting in an intimidating manner. Odds are that they're just looking for a ride home, but does he chance it, or does he just keep on driving. I'd bet many keep on driving whether morally right or not.

What about 7-11 clerks working the midnight shift?

They're clearly in a vulnerable position. What would you suggest?

My quote:
Having sex with someone is a very intimate thing. No one should feel a moral obligation to provide that to anyone they don't want to do it with.

Typically modern, baby boomer, moral relativist crap!!!!!

I guess I do have some morals after all! Say what you want fan. Come up with any nicely wrapped, canned wisecracks you want. That's not going to change my opinion. We're not talking here about a restaurant, a seven-eleven store or a flower shop. We're not talking about hiring practices or whatever other example anyone wants to come up with and present an argument based on morals. These girls are working on their own mostly, out in the real world. And morals don't always work in the real world. You're talking like it's the escorts obligation to service you or anyone else. My point is it's not. She has no such obligation whatsoever. She can conduct business with who she chooses when she chooses or can choose to refuse to do business with whoever she chooses.

I stand by my statement quoted above. That's my opinion. You don't have to agree or like it.

 

[revolver]

Originally posted by revolver
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Any sp who writes off a whole race or religion as being dangerous or otherwise undesireable is unenlightened ( stupid), racist or suffering from some neurosis.

A small point but I didn't say that. That was sorely's quote.

Revolver - You're again completely twisting the (valid) points that Sorely is making.

I'm not twisting any points. I'm disagreeing. There is a difference.

I've read his posts in detail - nowhere does he suggest that any SP should be forced to have sex with people with whom she doesn't feel comfortable. Why do you keep responding as if he has?

Really. The implication of his posts being that escorts should not refuse clients based on personal assumptions, past experience, etc.. leads to the conclusion that the escort should have sex with anyone that calls regardless of her own feelings or judgement.

 

[fergi_GTA]

How do you test cleanliness over the phone ?

Is smelling different necessarily a cleaniness issue ?

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The thing is people tend to associate unbearable ordour with un-cleankliness.

Why would people spray carpet with de-orderizer ?

Do you ever use mouth wash ?

I know it is tough when you are at the receiving end, but try to put yopurself in the SP's shoes. Imagine some woman who has a bad body ordour, even though she is very clean, would you sleep with her for money ?


BTW, there are clients who do not see black escorts . I suppose that is a a matter of choice , and not racism .

 

[Samantha Jones]

Yes it was satire

-my point was that we each end up going by our own history of experiences- fortunately or unfortunately-
ie if you have 3 bad experiences with the same group of person- whether it be -weight,age, a certain nationality, profession, or girls from a certain agency it undeniably has some effect on future meetings with someone from that same group. I'm not saying its right- just that its human nature to become more cautious when you've been burnt several times before!

I make my decision re seeing any new client on a individual basis- based on what and HOW they write me.

 

[sorely]

There is a world of difference between refusing to see a client because of intuition and past experience with respect to risk and weirdos; and, refusing to see them because of race, colour or nationality.

The latter is bigotry and racism. The former is common sense. I think Sasha Jones has it right, for the most part.

Also, some of my best screws have been with ladies with strong, yet clean,odours.

I would suggest that there are a lot of terb members that need to wake up and understand what living in this world is all about.

 

[sorely]

Samantha;

I suspect it would be pretty easy to bullshit one's way into seeing you, without you having a clue what the person was like.

Just a guess on my part.

 

[Samantha Jones]

With over 12 years assessing patients in psychiatry sorely I doubt it. So far I've met 2 men total who tried that- i left within 5 minutes of talking to them in person-and I did NOT take any $$.

 

[sorely]

Sam;

I believe that I agree with your last post. You made your decision after meeting these individuals.

In your previous post you indicated that you could tell by simply having them write you. That, I don't believe.

Someone just pm'd me and suggested that I was being mean spirited to you. No way; I was simply making a point. Let me know if I offended you , Samantha. If so , it certainly wasn't intended.

By the way, you made a point which is worth stressing. I hope all you sp's are returning the clients cash if you are turning them away once you see the colour of their skin.

It sounds like Sam has some principles in that regard.

 

[sorely]

By the way, why aren't you ladies working?

It should be prime time .

 

[Jenn_angel]

sorely

Some of us choose to take only one or two a day... Soooooooo... We end up online when we are finished.

 

[Samantha Jones]

Actually I didnt just not take their money- i gave them the cost of their hotel room from my pocket. One time when it was at the mans home we spent an hour talking before I left- it was his first callever. Another time I called Select and arranged someone else to come see him.
I refuse to ever give someone a reason for saying that i ripped them off. Plus I am the one that has to live with myself at the end of the day.
Wow tonight is gorgeous- nothing like a thunderstorm over a big lake!

 

[sorely]

You sound like one of the few. Good on ya !

It is a great evening ; although the last lightning/thunder crash was getting pretty close. It would be magnificent in a condo overlooking the lake.

Glad you ladies are around. You are good company and, at this point, the price is right.

Back to some controversy, please.