Escort vs Massage vs Stripper

[stevie_boy_1969]

I will not see another escort. I find this event very transactional. The excitement is just not there anymore not matter how hot they are, which is rare these days. Usually very mechanical. I would rather watch PornHub. I do like the massage experience more and more. This can be sometimes suprising and very sensual. Strip clubs are not for me anymore, boring. I'm still feeling addicted and looking for a way out. This shit changes your brain chemistry.

 

[terbzoo]

certainly the average encounter is much more transactional nowadays, as well many more fakes and crooks.
Yet the price constantly is going up.

Perhaps travel is in your future. Find a country were the girls are closer to what was the norm here decades ago?

Perhaps wait, if inflation is severe enough (I mean in real world outside of hobbying) more 'real' women will show up to make ends meet.

Montreal is a way better option than here but you need to be plugged in which is difficult living here. Still worth the trip if you have had overwhelmingly negative experiences
Like Einstein one said , to keep repeating the same actions and expect a different result is a sign of stupidity.
Best of luck!

 

[blacklabdog]

In my opinion, you can't make broad generalizations. There are escorts that experience isn't transactional, and some MAs are.

 

[Nesbot]

Everything is transactional in this business. You're literally paying for sexual gratification but I see your point OP. Id suggest maybe looking a bit harder.

 

[Taraparker]

Perhaps wait, if inflation is severe enough (I mean in real world outside of hobbying) more 'real' women will show up to make ends meet.

Dystopian much?

Just so I fully understand what you’re saying..

You’d prefer the economy to go to shambles (in the real world as if it won’t affect ‘the hobbying world’ lol ) and hope for desperate women to flood the market so you can get a discount on sex?

Not to mention inflation means you’ll be spending money on literally everything else.. so you would rather spend $10 on a loaf of bread and inflated prices on every product than spend the current rates on escorts every once in a while?

Edit: apologies for derailing the thread, but this particular comment struck a cord.

 

[stevie_boy_1969]

In my opinion, you can't make broad generalizations. There are escorts that experience isn't transactional, and some MAs are.

I agree. I am making a broad generalization. There are always exceptions. For me, I guess, this is hobby is not really normal. My dick likes it, but my brain is telling me something else..."hey, is this the best version of yourself?" My answer is no and I think that's part of the reason for my dissatisfaction lately...at odds with myself.

 

[stevie_boy_1969]

certainly the average encounter is much more transactional nowadays, as well many more fakes and crooks.
Yet the price constantly is going up.

Perhaps travel is in your future. Find a country were the girls are closer to what was the norm here decades ago?

Perhaps wait, if inflation is severe enough (I mean in real world outside of hobbying) more 'real' women will show up to make ends meet.

Montreal is a way better option than here but you need to be plugged in which is difficult living here. Still worth the trip if you have had overwhelmingly negative experiences
Like Einstein one said , to keep repeating the same actions and expect a different result is a sign of stupidity.
Best of luck!

Money/Country is not the issue. I think I'm looking for something I truely want in the wrong place.

 

[haplessinquiry]

I've been exclusively a massage guy for years now, gave up on escorts long ago. Mainly for some of the same things you said, felt too mechanical or just not exciting enough. With an MA, you may find a gem who will totally blow your world, or at the very worst, you'll get a very basic service which is good enough, you won't feel you got nothing out of it.

Strippers are to be avoided at all costs (and there are a lot of costs), although I have had some memorable encounters with some at the clubs, but the chances of finding those are very minuscule. However, with strippers I become very transactional, counting songs, saying the count out loud so the girl knows I'm keeping count, etc. So not worth it, just to avoid getting ripped off.

 

[scarecrow119]

I have to say I agree with the OP on this one. I am not sure why but I have not seemed to connect with any SPs lately. In the past, I had some semi regulars that
I seemed to have a connection with. Lately, it has really felt transactional. Encounters feel rushed and/or uninspired. I am not sure if it is something I am bringing to the encounter or if it is just a direction the industry is headed in. I have better luck with MAs, but that is likely because I am still able to wee a couple that I have known for years. I have seen a few newer ones, but again, I seem to struggle to feel enough of a connection to want to repeat.

 

[JohnnyFever]

That's one of the reasons I veered towards MAs, the usual escort encounters became predictable. I made better connections with independents like Jasmin and Jessica, and when they started their spas I never really looked back.

Strippers are a different experience. It's fun sometimes just to sit down and have a beer with them, especially the ones who make an effort to talk before going in for the sale.

I suppose for me all of these categories are only as interesting as the people you meet.

 

[Lovestoplease]

This is an interesting thread. I too mainly see MA's and have been for the better part of 3 years. Club Alpha is my go to spot and some independents (sweet Melia is my go to, i know she does FS as well, but i only see her for MA services). I do venture in to the FS variety every once in a while and I usually walk away feeling disappointed, I guess i expect more than what is given by the particular lady I am seeing. I usually have really good times with MA's as you know exactly what you get going in, and in most cases the only thing that is YMMV is typically Kissing and DATY. But lets face it, I am really there for a massage (which is typically needed, due to exercise causing back pain and a bonus of a release of sexual tension. Now don't get me wrong, Certain MA's have upcharge pricing for things like DATY, and FS but for the most part you can find out what most ladies have to offer, as most of them have twitter pages and you can have a real conversation with them about do's and don'ts and find out if there is any chemistry at all even before walking in the door. I find more upselling at CMJ lately than at Clubalpha, and I have not ventured in to Paradise or Sparx or ALO very often, as when the few times i did, i left feeling betrayed due to lack of chemistry or too much upselling and the feeling that if you don't purchase the upsell then the session goes downhill from there and becomes faked and mechanical. This is just my 2 cents so take it for what it is worth.
LTP

 

[haplessinquiry]

I have heard there is a term that they use in certain other cities around the world for this, called IOP, or "Illusion of Passion". We are missing that IOP. Low IOP encounters.

 

[Willie Layer]

I go to both SP and MA, depending on how I feel and what I am looking for. I assume hormones play a big part in that decision. In general though, I find that I get a more satisfying connection to a MA. Maybe it’s because of the more intimacy of the massage and sometimes when that little naughty magic occurs it feels more genuine. I dunno….maybe I’m just naive.

 

[JohnnyFever]

It's also a much simpler process booking with a spa. I just go to the club alpha or CMJ site to see who's working and book online. I can do it last minute with no worries about my personal number or deposits or any of that. A lot of the MAs maintain active Twitter feeds too, which makes it even easier to decide who to see.

 

[bumguy]

Agree with some folks here; it is hit and miss. My best "connections" and experiences, no doubt have been with escorts like Nikki Luxx and a few others. Massages: hit and miss. Can be amazing as one anticipates the ending with a lovely woman for twenty minutes. Hotel girls are hit and miss. Some stripper experiences are unforgettable, like Alex at Pigale or Anastasia in Tease. It is a lottery. Some exceptional, some transactional and an immediate regret. Depends on what you want, partly. I want to feel young and adventurous and a little dirty. I know it is all a business deal and even the sweet murmurs and caresses are part of a business transaction. Barring being a ripped twenty year old in a dorm, which I never was, these fulfill the fantasies most of the time.

 

[StillROAMing]

I click better with SPs. Had some good connections with a couple strippers, but they are rare. Hate spas, find them to be a cold environment.

 

[TigerFlex5]

I go from SP to MA to SP to MA, it always depends on who is available and who I feel I will click the most.
I tend to repeat when I meet a provider that I have fun with, no matter if she's a MA or SP, when she is available at my time.

I know strippers are something "different" and it's been a long time I haven't been in a strip club - way before Covid. As of former strippers that switched to MA/SP, I never had good experience with those.

 

[haplessinquiry]

Haven't been to a strip club in ages but the trick to shagging strippers in my younger fitter days was CR daty. They're not all game obviously lol. But if they are.. after that, when they're not hustling dances they're probably sitting with you having a drink. If they're with you at last call ask (ask before the lights come on) if they want to keep the party going. Pretty simple formula. Post daty success rate was probably 20% (a lot of stars need to align), but I've never bagged a stripper I didn't dine on. Yes, strippers are money hungry, but unlike SPs and MAs, it's all about the tease.. they're not getting off at work on a regular basis, or getting punters off on a regukar basis, so it's possible to leverage their libido in your favour. So next time you're in the CR, see if they fancy a little lingual attention.. who knows where your night will go. Final note - zero success rate when I suggested a hotel.

Works on MA's and SP's as well.

 

[haplessinquiry]

Lol I'm taking sport not service. I hope the success rate for an SP is 100% and I've never seen an MA but guessing there would typically be an extra fee involved?

If you can do it well, they might both be happier to see you again.

 

[MarianneC]

If you can do it well, they might both be happier to see you again.

Trust me, I was always happier to see the guys who could do DATY well.