Israel is free ranking at 80 percent, Turkey ranks third from the bottom of the partially free states almost into the non-free numbers.
Saudi Arabia by the way ranks at ten percent.
Erdogan slams Israel as ‘terrorist state’ that ‘kills children’
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Saudi Arabia by the way ranks at ten percent.
You do realize that repeating completely refuted claims doesn't strengthen your case right?They don't rule them in apartheid do they?...
What it does though is show you don't care about human rights, only your obsession about Israel's existence.
Franky doesn't care about that. The only time I've ever seen him criticize an Arab/Muslim state was Saudi Arabia as vehicle to criticize the US.Israel is free ranking at 80 percent, Turkey ranks third from the bottom of the partially free states almost into the non-free numbers.
Saudi Arabia by the way ranks at ten percent.
That ranking doesn't include Palestine, which is under Israeli rule, does it?Israel is free ranking at 80 percent,
I don't think we should be allies with the Saudis, true.Franky doesn't care about that. The only time I've ever seen him criticize an Arab/Muslim state was Saudi Arabia as vehicle to criticize the US.
Erdogan is a despot, Turkey is being ruined.
Egypt is now run by a despot.
Syria is fucked, but hopefully the war will at least end.
Iraq is fucked.
Iran is a theocracy that is at least opening up more, though they have far to go.
And Israel is apartheid.
Great region.
You do realize that the charges of apartheid on Israel are anything but 'refuted', don't you?You do realize that repeating completely refuted claims doesn't strengthen your case right?
You can't even answer to any of the charges from the latest report, the only thing you can do is to shoot the messenger.
What a surprise, you only criticize Arab countries so you can make up lies about Israel.I don't think we should be allies with the Saudis, true.
Erdogan is a despot, Turkey is being ruined.
Egypt is now run by a despot.
Syria is fucked, but hopefully the war will at least end.
Iraq is fucked.
Iran is a theocracy that is at least opening up more, though they have far to go.
And Israel is apartheid.
Great region.
Freedom house rates Israel as much better than it's neighbours for the simple reason that it does respect rights far better than it's neighbours.
Apartheid: a policy or system of segregation or discrimination on grounds of race.You do realize that the charges of apartheid on Israel are anything but 'refuted', don't you?....
20% of Israel is the same race as Palestinians yet they have full legal rights. That is a prima facie case that Israel's policies are about citizenship, not race.
Its never enough for you, is it?What a surprise, you only criticize Arab countries so you can make up lies about Israel.
Freedom house rates Israel as much better than it's neighbours for the simple reason that it does respect rights far better than it's neighbours.
Freedom house doesn't include Palestine, which is under Israeli rule, in their rankings.
If they did.....
You should read the report. The West Bank under the PA ranks at 28% and Hamas' Gaza ranks at 12%.Its never enough for you, is it?
Freedom house doesn't include Palestine, which is under Israeli rule, in their rankings.
If they did.....
Right, and if you put those numbers into the Israel ranking then Israel's total freedom ranking sinks down to around 40% or so.You should read the report. The West Bank under the PA ranks at 28% and Hamas' Gaza ranks at 12%.
That's how they should be ranked.
The US should disengage from the ME, it’s a shit show and the Brits drew the lines, let them deal with it.I don't think we should be allies with the Saudis, true.
Erdogan is a despot, Turkey is being ruined.
Egypt is now run by a despot.
Syria is fucked, but hopefully the war will at least end.
Iraq is fucked.
Iran is a theocracy that is at least opening up more, though they have far to go.
And Israel is apartheid.
Great region.
We need to focus on Asia.
Yes and no.The US should disengage from the ME, it’s a shit show and the Brits drew the lines, let them deal with it.
We need to focus on Asia.
USA should focus on USA, leave others alone.
Which of course means leave the Middle East to Russia and Iran.Yes and no.
USA should focus on USA, leave others alone.
While you might be comfortable with that, I doubt much of the rest of the Western World would be, neither would be many Middle Eastern states.
Hear, hear. I still don't understand why a Muslim country is in NATO anyway. It is the only country to have warred on another NATO country, Cyprus vs the Greeks during the 70's.They should throw Turkey out of Nato if possible and the US should secure their nuclear weapons that are stored in Turkey before its too late.
There are better ways to win influence them bombing countries.Which of course means leave the Middle East to Russia and Iran.
While you might be comfortable with that, I doubt much of the rest of the Western World would be, neither would be many Middle Eastern states.
Is not like Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, Yemen or Syria have become anything other then destroyed countries filled with people pissed at US actions.
Because prior to the Erdogan - Putin boromance, Turkey and Russia have been enemies for centuries.Hear, hear. I still don't understand why a Muslim country is in NATO anyway.
Indeed the posts on the wrought iron fence around Transfiguration* Cathedral in Saint-Petersburg, (off Liteyny Prospekt) which was the regimental chapel of the Preobrazhensky Lifeguard Regiment, are captured Turkish bronze cannons.
http://l450v.alamy.com/450v/h96h11/...-bronze-barrel-next-to-the-central-h96h11.jpg
* Which likely shocking no one is in Russian: Preobrazhenshy
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Only you would hold Israel accountable for the human rights violations of Hamas in Gaza and the PA in the West Bank.Right, and if you put those numbers into the Israel ranking then Israel's total freedom ranking sinks down to around 40% or so.
That's how they should be ranked.
Seems to work for Russia.There are better ways to win influence them bombing countries.....
They are still occupied and under Israeli military rule.Only you would hold Israel accountable for the human rights violations of Hamas in Gaza and the PA in the West Bank.
They shouldn't be counted separately until they have rule of their own country, not just a rule of the prison grounds.
