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Eglinton Crosstown won't open until 2024, construction group to take legal action: Metrolinx

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The Eglinton Crosstown LRT will not open until sometime in 2024 and the construction consortium in charge of building it intends to take legal action against Metrolinx and stop working with the TTC, according to the head of Metrolinx.

President and CEO Phil Verster says Metrolinx will defend the legal challenge from Crosslinx Transit Solutions (CTS) and calls the latest move from the group of construction companies an “unacceptable delay tactic” at a time when they should be focused on finishing the much-delayed project.


“They believe some of the arrangements we have with the TTC as the operator may may not have supported their delivery of the project. This is all about money,” Verster told CityNews during a one-on-one interview on Tuesday.

“This is without substance. What we need to focus on now is to drive together all of the parties to complete the project on time for the communities that have been waiting.”
Staff with the provincial transportation agency say they are already withholding significant payments from CTS for “poor performance” and continue to try to hold the company accountable. They also say they require a schedule of how CTS plans to “complete the testing, commissioning, safety and quality rectifications of the rail line.”

In a statement to CityNews, a spokesperson says the consortium had been forced to take legal action after “months of engagement with Metrolinx about the challenges to the project as a result of Metrolinx having no signed operating agreement with the TTC.”


The statement says a notice of application has been filed to try to seek to be treated fairly to allow the group to complete the project as efficiently as possible.

It notes construction is more than 98 per cent complete and testing, training and commissioning is currently underway. They claim that during this the TTC is able to make requests and provide input at any time, including at a late stage, that goes beyond CTS’s contractual responsibilities.

“Metrolinx has refused to manage or take ownership over these late changes requested by the TTC despite the undeniable continual impact on the project schedule,” read the statement.

“This has resulted in delays to the Project outside our control and significant costs overruns which CTS has continued to incur.”

CTS is asking the court to find that they are not obligated to continue working on the Eglinton Crosstown project while the issues between Metrolinx and the TTC are resolved.



Despite the legal action, Verster says the CTS consortium remains the best organization to complete the project and hopes they respond favourably to the schedule request.

“We’re looking very carefully at how CTS is going to respond to our request,” he says when asked if another company or other companies should be brought in to take over.

“They are by far the best-placed organization to continue to deliver this project.

“Despite the fact that there are commercial claims like this, the work on the ground continues.”

TTC spokesperson Stuart Green told CityNews in a statement the legal issues are between Metrolinx and Crosslinx Transit Solutions.

“We have not been notified of any legal action against us at this time,” he wrote.

“The TTC continues to work with Metrolinx and CTS to start operating Line 5, Eglinton Crosstown, as soon as possible.We are ready to begin operator training as soon as construction is completed to a level that safely allows us to do so.”

News of the potential court battle and further delays did not sit well with Eglinton Avenue business owners CityNews spoke with on Tuesday.

“It also doesn’t help business. People are still staying away from Eglinton and it just feels like it’s getting ridiculous at this point,” Mark Lash jewelry co-owner Mark Lash said.

The sentiment was echoed by Maureen Sirois, the chair of the Eglinton Way BIA.

“[Business operators] are absolutely horrified this thing is going to be delayed further. It’s too much, it’s too long, it’s too intense, we can’t keep this up,” she told CityNews.

The line was originally set to open in 2020, but its deadline was pushed back multiple times. In the latter part of 2022, an indefinite delay was announced. During Tuesday’s interview, Verster said the new line isn’t expected to be operating until 2024.

“We’ve had our concerns about the 2023 date, which is exactly why we’ve been pushing so hard for a credible schedule,” he says.

“In our estimate, it’s a date in 2024, but when exactly that date is will depend on how much must still be fixed.”

Verster says a credible schedule involves dates for correcting deficiencies, training of crews, showing who is responsible for what and outlining the required resources

“You want to see production rates that matches with what is achievable and we have not seen that in several cases,” he says, referring to Crosslinx’s past submissions.

Construction on the Crosstown began in 2011.


Eglinton Crosstown to open in 2024, consortium taking legal action: Metrolinx (citynews.ca)
 
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Heads to roll:

1) Vester
2) Mulroney
3) Ford
 

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If we're talking lawsuits, all people and businesses impacted negatively by this boondoggle over the years should file a class action suit against Metrolinx for the damages they incurred...
 

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They started construction on this in the fall of 2011. 12+ years to build 19 km of subway track. That's insane!
It only took 5 years (1949-1954) to build the original 7.5 km Yonge subway line from Wellington to Eglinton.
We're fucking lost as a society.
 

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They started construction on this in the fall of 2011. 12+ years to build 19 km of subway track. That's insane!
It only took 5 years (1949-1954) to build the original 7.5 km Yonge subway line from Wellington to Eglinton.
We're fucking lost as a society.
!!

In 1832 they finished Rideau canal after 5 years, but to be fair, it was built with slave labour during the Irish potato
famine, the same slaves who became lumberjacks.

Looks like the Boston Big Dig where everyone is grabbing $

Now it takes longer than 5 years to get environmental assessment done


The chunnel took 6.3 years after construction started
They had a contest to find a company that could plan, fund, and operate a Channel link
 
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shit design..shit planning..shit project management...wrong companies involved...waste of tax payers money...just another grand fuckup...and you wonder why the best talent no longer works in Toronto..
 

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And they refuse to tell the public WTF is going on??????

It must be the tunnel esp where it goes under the Young line but I heard there are leaks everywhere

A very challenging tunnel but that is why you search world wide to hire the best engineers
who love great challenges

I suspect it is a management issue as running the show is as great a challenge as the
engineering
 
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They started construction on this in the fall of 2011. 12+ years to build 19 km of subway track. That's insane!
It only took 5 years (1949-1954) to build the original 7.5 km Yonge subway line from Wellington to Eglinton.
We're fucking lost as a society.
I don't really know what is the real story, but I know a thing or two about manpower/duration. The only reason for the project to go massively past the completion date is the flow of cash. It looks like no one is in control of expenditures. Metrolinx is building like in the Soviet block- unlimited manpower, unlimited time, no hard benchmarks and unlimited cash. This is now past the boondoggle stage.
 
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Mulroney and Ford had nothing to do with the project. That honour goes to the Liberal Party and Kathleen Wynne.
Who has been in charge now for 5 years?

And don't say Metrolinx, because Metrolinx has been co-opted in every conceivable way by the Ford and Mulroney.

Funny, how it was all on a schedule until Thug and company lay their mitts on it.
 

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what is their logic? "I didn't complete my project in time, despite the lighter than usual traffic due to a global pandemic, so I am going to sue you for trying to hold me accountable."
 

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Timeline on the Chunnel built in 6.3 years after digging started



1802 -- French engineer Albert Mathieu Favier created a plan to dig a tunnel under the English Channel for horse-drawn carriages.

1856 -- Frenchman Aimé Thomé de Gamond created a plan to dig two tunnels, one from Great Britain and one from France, that meet in the middle on an artificial island.

1880 -- Sir Edward Watkin began drilling two underwater tunnels, one from the British side and the other from the French. However, after two years, the British public's fears of an invasion won out and Watkins was forced to stop drilling.

1973 -- Britain and France agreed on an underwater railway that would link their two countries. Geologic investigations began and digging started. However, two years later, Britain pulled out because of an economic recession.

November 1984 -- British and French leaders once again agreed that a Channel link would be mutually beneficial. Since they realized that their own governments could not fund such a monumental project, they held a contest.

April 2, 1985 -- A contest to find a company that could plan, fund, and operate a Channel link was announced.

January 20, 1986 -- The winner of the contest was announced. The design for a Channel Tunnel (or Chunnel), an underwater railway, was chosen.

February 12, 1986 -- Representatives from both the United Kingdom and France signed a treaty approving the Channel Tunnel.

December 15, 1987 -- Digging began on the British side, starting with the middle, service tunnel.

February 28, 1988 -- Digging began on the French side, starting with the middle, service tunnel.

December 1, 1990 -- The linking of the first tunnel was celebrated. It was the first time in history that Great Britain and France were connected.

May 22, 1991 -- The British and French met in the middle of the northern running tunnel.

June 28, 1991 -- The British and French met in the middle of the southern running tunnel.

December 10, 1993 -- The first test-run of the entire Channel Tunnel was conducted.

May 6, 1994 -- The Channel Tunnel officially opened. French President Francois Mitterrand and British Queen Elizabeth II were on hand to celebrate.

November 18, 1996 -- A fire broke out on one of the trains in the southern running tunnel (taking passengers from France to Great Britain). Although all the people on board were rescued, the fire did a lot of damage to the train and to the tunnel.
 

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Scrap the entire project. Make Englinton Avenue designed for cars again. The future for mass transit is thousands of small airborne drones.
 
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What I don't understand on the east part of the LRT from Leslie street where it is above ground and is now complete, they have planted real grass between the tracks which does look good, however, last fall the left lane on Eglinton was closed as a truck was watering the grass which has now grown higher than the tracks. Can't wait to see when they have to mow the lawn. LOL. Wouldn't artificial turf look just as good? Yeah i know heat may be the reason.
 

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As a life long Toronto resident I wish they would have just bitten the bullet and made it 100% underground.
Who the hell wants to stand outside in the freezing rain or blowing snow to wait for a glorified streetcar ?
 

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So CEO Phil Verster stated today, in response to the usual question about when he will advise the Eglinton Crosstown actual public use opening date: "Three months before the opening, but we're not there yet".

He might as well have said "Three months before The Rapture", cuz who the heck knows when that will be!"

You can't make this shit up... :mad:
 
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