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rexscott

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Really guys, you feel this way ? Wow. Never even come close to any of those feelings or thoughts myself.
Yeah. More often than not, when I walk out and the door closes behind me, I feel deflated. Standing in the cold parking lot, hurrying to my car. Wondering if all that money, and it's a lot of money, was ultimately worth it. Wondering why I keep doing it when it's rarely as satisfying as I'd hoped. Wondering if what I'm looking for can even exist in a one-hour appointment. Wondering if my expectations are wrong but not knowing how to fix them or if they can be changed.
 

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Yeah. More often than not, when I walk out and the door closes behind me, I feel deflated. Standing in the cold parking lot, hurrying to my car. Wondering if all that money, and it's a lot of money, was ultimately worth it. Wondering why I keep doing it when it's rarely as satisfying as I'd hoped. Wondering if what I'm looking for can even exist in a one-hour appointment. Wondering if my expectations are wrong but not knowing how to fix them or if they can be changed.
If it's any consolation to you, I find the excitement is all before the nut, if that makes sense. The finding someone, setting it up, getting there, getting down to business (fyi I only do MA stuff no SP's).

But, I'm similar when it comes to my "real" sex life, so maybe I'm weird. I like the build up and the anticipation and the pre-everything. And like most dudes, once I cum the brain starts thinking about sports or having a nap or something. The difference with this, is that you're not at home, you're in a strangers place, you have to get dressed and leave and make small talk while you're doing that.
 
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Yeah. More often than not, when I walk out and the door closes behind me, I feel deflated. Standing in the cold parking lot, hurrying to my car. Wondering if all that money, and it's a lot of money, was ultimately worth it. Wondering why I keep doing it when it's rarely as satisfying as I'd hoped. Wondering if what I'm looking for can even exist in a one-hour appointment. Wondering if my expectations are wrong but not knowing how to fix them or if they can be changed.
This sounds a bit more than what I experience, and not sure if this is a joke or real, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt and my 2 cents.

You need to do some introspection and figure out what it is you're really after with seeing providers. IF you're looking for genuine connections and intimacy, sorry to say you will not find it here. For many, I wonder if they are even capable of it, and the others would never provide it to a paying client. IF this is what you're looking for, stop seeing SPs because you will never be happy with spending your money on them. Invest in yourself to fill whatever gap it is you find that is forcing you to seek fulfillment from escorts.

My personal journey was realizing I wasn't after what I thought I was. Looking at my name you can assume what I look for, but about 3 or 4 weeks ago I saw a blonde spinner who shall not be reviewed, and she changed my mind. Since then I have seen about 4 or 5 other providers who would never have met my original bust requirement but nonetheless provided excellent service, with one of them becoming my new regular. The difference was that they don't have the typical mentality I've come across in Ottawa. They are very relaxed, open to long dates without raping your wallet, and genuinely just want to enjoy the company of the client they're with. No clock watching, no crazy upcharges, just good times at good rates. That's made all the difference for me and I will never go back to the "elite" SPs in Ottawa. So while I thought I was just after big tits and a quick nut, really I was after good service and long dates with social and fun time. Not dinner dates though, those are still a joke in my eyes.
 

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this is why what i pay for must be an experience that i cannot replicate with my own hand.
if the person i am paying treats this like an assembly line service, then there is zero value in it from my perspective, and i might as well just go solo, and save my money for something better.
getting an actual true gfe is very rare these days, even though that term is used by almost everyone as a method to bait men into coming for a visit.
 

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You've been really horny.

You go online to see what the SP action is like and are intrigued by the MA's.

The girls' profiles on the spa web sites get you even more horny.

You read some reviews on TERB and get even more worked up.

You narrow down a girl you're very interested in and work yourself up into a lather at the thought of spending time with her.

And then... You've been so worked up, you decide to jerk off. And once you do, you're no longer horny, no longer interested in seeing a girl, and cancel any plans.

Has this happened to anyone else?
All the time! Or, regress to a favorite porn video, with the same result...lol
 

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Actually, this is why prebooking is a problem, no? If I'm horny and in the mood and come across your ad, reach out, and you're available now, I'm coming. If you tell me to wait a few hours, or a day, it's during that time that I might relieve myself and decide against coming.

Impulse buying is a real thing and being horny makes men very impulsive. Of course you're not capable of always being available for an impulse session, but they are valid. Personally, I only book same day and I will usually start reaching out in the afternoon for an evening date. If it can't be accommodated it doesn't happen and I try again tomorrow. Many times it is a matter of 1-2 hours from my initial text to me walking in your door. I don't want to prebook then simply not be in the mood for it, so I wait until I'm in the mood then find who is available. I know I'm not the only one.
Pre-booking sucks, I never do it cause something may come up or something may have no desire to come up at that time.
 
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Pre-booking sucks, I never do it cause something may come up or something may have no desire to come up at that time.
100%. I wonder if women forget that men actually have to have the desire to have sex, to have sex, and we don't always know when we will want it. If we don't want it then junior won't stand at attention and it's a complete waste. Even more than that though, say junior will stand at attention but you're just not in the mood, that's when you experience huge regret after the session because you didn't really want to but your sense of responsibility to be a good client made you. Many will then associate that with the provider herself and never repeat, or maybe leave a bad review.

Sometimes guys don't want to flake or cancel, our desire has just changed since the time of our booking.
 
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100%. I wonder if women forget that men actually have to have the desire to have sex, to have sex, and we don't always know when we will want it. If we don't want it then junior won't stand at attention and it's a complete waste. Even more than that though, say junior will stand at attention but you're just not in the mood, that's what you experience huge regret after the session because you didn't really want to but your sense of responsibility to be a good client made you. Many will then associate that with the provider herself and never repeat, or maybe leave a bad review.

Sometimes guys don't want to flake or cancel, our desire has just changed since the time of our booking.
I had that experience recently. Got all worked up to see a particular girl at a spa and when I got there - poof - desire gone. When she came in the room and we started the session, a brief increase in desire was eventually zapped by a request for an up charge which I may have gone for had I been in a different mood. She was very attractive and overall friendly, so I won't name the spa nor the MA, because in all fairness the failed experience was entirely on me.
 

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I try to explain this to my wife. When men are horny we are completely different people. As soon as we bust a nut it's like a switch is flipped. More than once I have been extremely excited to fuck the girl I'm with, but once I'm done all I want is to get away lol.

It's such a weird phenomenon and we have no control over it. Similarly, once you bust a nut your brain starts to think of all the other things you could do with that money and the plans are cancelled. Sure, you could not relieve yourself, but then you may not last long enough haha. Rock and a hard place.
I've found out that going to MAs that have strong massage skills help me out to deal with the "I could've done this at home and save some money" feeling, since my mindset is that I paid for a good massage, and the happy ending is just added value. Self depreciating guilt trip is usually averted this way.
 

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I've found out that going to MAs that have strong massage skills help me out to deal with the "I could've done this at home and save some money" feeling, since my mindset is that I paid for a good massage, and the happy ending is just added value. Self depreciating guilt trip is usually averted this way.
I'm interested in neither the massage or the release. For massage I prefer a professional trained masseuse (that I can apply my insurance toward), and a release is something I can do myself. I'm interested in spending quality intimate time with a lovely young woman with a great personality and attitude.
 

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I've found out that going to MAs that have strong massage skills help me out to deal with the "I could've done this at home and save some money" feeling, since my mindset is that I paid for a good massage, and the happy ending is just added value. Self depreciating guilt trip is usually averted this way.
That's what I'm looking for too. Once in a while, I get one who gimme a bit more and I'm more happy.
 

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You've been really horny.

You go online to see what the SP action is like and are intrigued by the MA's.

The girls' profiles on the spa web sites get you even more horny.

You read some reviews on TERB and get even more worked up.

You narrow down a girl you're very interested in and work yourself up into a lather at the thought of spending time with her.

And then... You've been so worked up, you decide to jerk off. And once you do, you're no longer horny, no longer interested in seeing a girl, and cancel any plans.

Has this happened to anyone else?
all the fucking time now for me i look for girls all see scammers j7st jerk of and sleep
 
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For me, it's not about being scammed. It's about the experience rarely living up to what I envisioned. Often it's "good enough" but 9 times out of 10 I walk away thinking ehhhh... It's mostly me, not the provider, I know that. But I think a lot of guys are similar. It's one of those "seems like a great idea at the time and she seems nice" then $160 or whatever later and I'm thinking I can cum better by myself lol. There's a reason knowing your partner usually makes for better sex!
I'm replying to my own post lol.

I think it's the way it is because 9x out of 10 the person you're seeing just isn't into it (nor should they be, tbh, it's a business). The best experiences I've had were from private massage practitioners who may provide something extra if there's a connection (or you're clean, attractive to them, whatever). Basically, someone who actually does massage but is okay with extras if you're cool, if that makes sense. And not someone who takes a dozen appointments a day, all with happy endings. I've found these women don't exist much anymore, but they definitely did 6 or 7 years ago when I jumped into this.

I can't speak to SP's, but if it's your job to have sex with x-number of guys a day, you're gonna have a hard time being genuine.

When it comes to the MA's that I personally had experience with years ago, but don't seem to exist anymore, the feeling was that they provided massages and if they liked you (or in some cases, were in the mood) you could leave happy, or even ecstatic in some cases. I likened it to if I, a guy, provided massage services. Most of the people coming through my door would not be "my type" and they'd all be asking for a happy ending. I wouldn't be super into it. Unless I was attracted to them, they were nice, respectful, etc.

I can say I haven't even come close to matching the fun I had pre-covid, let alone c. 2017/18 where there WERE some genuine experiences, even though it was paid for. There absolutely were some horny women who provided massage, not just for the money. I literally had conversations about this topic with a few of them, and they absolutely admitted they got excited when they got a client they were attracted to. Just as any of us guys would have a good time (potentially great time!) if a sexy woman stripped down and paid us to massage them :) I can guarantee you I saw many that did this on the side for the occasional thrill of massaging someone they found attractive. Those they didn't, they made $80 giving a massage. Those they did, they also got something other than money.
 

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Not all nuts are good nuts.
That's serious words of wisdom.

Lots of times, the drama and effort of screening, countless hours scrolling LL, twitter, etc, chatting up back and forth, building the anticipation gets too much, saps all the energy, more often than not, I give in to the path of least resistance.

I hope our lady friends are reading this thread, gives an insight as to why that dude that's been throlling you, and finally managed to snag a date with you suddenly called it off once physically and mentally drained, lol.
 
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I'm replying to my own post lol.

I think it's the way it is because 9x out of 10 the person you're seeing just isn't into it (nor should they be, tbh, it's a business). The best experiences I've had were from private massage practitioners who may provide something extra if there's a connection (or you're clean, attractive to them, whatever). Basically, someone who actually does massage but is okay with extras if you're cool, if that makes sense. And not someone who takes a dozen appointments a day, all with happy endings. I've found these women don't exist much anymore, but they definitely did 6 or 7 years ago when I jumped into this.

I can't speak to SP's, but if it's your job to have sex with x-number of guys a day, you're gonna have a hard time being genuine.

When it comes to the MA's that I personally had experience with years ago, but don't seem to exist anymore, the feeling was that they provided massages and if they liked you (or in some cases, were in the mood) you could leave happy, or even ecstatic in some cases. I likened it to if I, a guy, provided massage services. Most of the people coming through my door would not be "my type" and they'd all be asking for a happy ending. I wouldn't be super into it. Unless I was attracted to them, they were nice, respectful, etc.

I can say I haven't even come close to matching the fun I had pre-covid, let alone c. 2017/18 where there WERE some genuine experiences, even though it was paid for. There absolutely were some horny women who provided massage, not just for the money. I literally had conversations about this topic with a few of them, and they absolutely admitted they got excited when they got a client they were attracted to. Just as any of us guys would have a good time (potentially great time!) if a sexy woman stripped down and paid us to massage them :) I can guarantee you I saw many that did this on the side for the occasional thrill of massaging someone they found attractive. Those they didn't, they made $80 giving a massage. Those they did, they also got something other than money.
Good old days... well, I think it's still possible, once in a while, to get one of those who will go extra miles with you because she likes you. But they are hard to find !
 

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I'm replying to my own post lol.

I think it's the way it is because 9x out of 10 the person you're seeing just isn't into it (nor should they be, tbh, it's a business). The best experiences I've had were from private massage practitioners who may provide something extra if there's a connection (or you're clean, attractive to them, whatever). Basically, someone who actually does massage but is okay with extras if you're cool, if that makes sense. And not someone who takes a dozen appointments a day, all with happy endings. I've found these women don't exist much anymore, but they definitely did 6 or 7 years ago when I jumped into this.

I can't speak to SP's, but if it's your job to have sex with x-number of guys a day, you're gonna have a hard time being genuine.

When it comes to the MA's that I personally had experience with years ago, but don't seem to exist anymore, the feeling was that they provided massages and if they liked you (or in some cases, were in the mood) you could leave happy, or even ecstatic in some cases. I likened it to if I, a guy, provided massage services. Most of the people coming through my door would not be "my type" and they'd all be asking for a happy ending. I wouldn't be super into it. Unless I was attracted to them, they were nice, respectful, etc.

I can say I haven't even come close to matching the fun I had pre-covid, let alone c. 2017/18 where there WERE some genuine experiences, even though it was paid for. There absolutely were some horny women who provided massage, not just for the money. I literally had conversations about this topic with a few of them, and they absolutely admitted they got excited when they got a client they were attracted to. Just as any of us guys would have a good time (potentially great time!) if a sexy woman stripped down and paid us to massage them :) I can guarantee you I saw many that did this on the side for the occasional thrill of massaging someone they found attractive. Those they didn't, they made $80 giving a massage. Those they did, they also got something other than money.
Tbh, I never thought being genuinely liked by a SP was a thing until recently lol. Not because I hadn't received good service, I always just assume it's all a show and fake, which is fine, so I've never looked for what you describe. However, I've recently began to repeat a lot with a couple ladies I liked and have experienced what you describe. Free time, extra services, forbidden services, genuine conversation, invited into their home, and so on. Now that I have had this type of service, goodluck getting me to spend any real money on anything less. I may venture out to other providers here and there but my bar is set so high now I doubt many will reach it, so I'm pretty much sticking with my regulars at this point.

Getting service, or extra/forbidden services because the lady genuinely likes you is much like getting a civvy girl to like you and have sex with you, mentally, I think. She has no reason to offer what she is except that she wants to, which makes you feel good because it's reasonable to assume she genuinely enjoys your company and wants more of it. This feeling can't be matched by someone who says "donation?" as you walk in then turns their back and walks away with it, only to move on to basic mechanical service with no connection.

Goodluck to all the gents still searching for quality providers in Ottawa that offer a solid GFE, I feel your pain.
 

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[...] Getting service, or extra/forbidden services because the lady genuinely likes you is much like getting a civvy girl to like you and have sex with you, mentally, I think. She has no reason to offer what she is except that she wants to, which makes you feel good because it's reasonable to assume she genuinely enjoys your company and wants more of it. This feeling can't be matched by someone who says "donation?" as you walk in then turns their back and walks away with it, only to move on to basic mechanical service with no connection.

Goodluck to all the gents still searching for quality providers in Ottawa that offer a solid GFE, I feel your pain. [...]
To a certain extreme, yes. But, never forget :
"I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave... " (Tonight's Girlfriend).

😉
 
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Tbh, I never thought being genuinely liked by a SP was a thing until recently lol. Not because I hadn't received good service, I always just assume it's all a show and fake, which is fine, so I've never looked for what you describe. However, I've recently began to repeat a lot with a couple ladies I liked and have experienced what you describe. Free time, extra services, forbidden services, genuine conversation, invited into their home, and so on. Now that I have had this type of service, goodluck getting me to spend any real money on anything less. I may venture out to other providers here and there but my bar is set so high now I doubt many will reach it, so I'm pretty much sticking with my regulars at this point.

Getting service, or extra/forbidden services because the lady genuinely likes you is much like getting a civvy girl to like you and have sex with you, mentally, I think. She has no reason to offer what she is except that she wants to, which makes you feel good because it's reasonable to assume she genuinely enjoys your company and wants more of it. This feeling can't be matched by someone who says "donation?" as you walk in then turns their back and walks away with it, only to move on to basic mechanical service with no connection.

Goodluck to all the gents still searching for quality providers in Ottawa that offer a solid GFE, I feel your pain.
For sure. My experience is with ma's (indy's) so a bit different. I'm just not into the SP scene. I'm in need of the occasional massage, and several years ago I got tired of having to make appointments several days or a week out, so checked out Kijiji (or probably craigslist at the time!) and it opened a whole new world lol. Over those first few years I found several who actually liked what they did, and didn't do it for just anyone who came through their door. A few who used me just as much as I used them for a good time. One older (late 40's, early 50's) lady who literally said this was her way of getting off occasionally and she could be choosy.

It's these types of massage providers who don't seem to exist anymore. Anyone on Kijiji, or other sites (not including LL here) offers up their extras almost immediately. They are sex workers - which is fine. But there was a time where I didn't know beforehand what might happen, you had to wink/wink a little, play your cards right, maybe even go back for a second or third session. It was always the thrill of the chase for me. Usually it ended up being a lacklustre HJ for an extra $20. Every now and again, way WAY more than an HJ. Worst case scenario I take care of my own needs afterwards. Best case scenarios made for some great stories and happy memories you can't replicate with straight-up SW's.

But I agree with you about the SP's, even if I don't have firsthand experience. There absolutely are providers out there who you can make a genuine connection with, and I don't dispute that. If you see them regularly, get to know each other, and they're comfortable with you, it can happen for sure.
 
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