Dundas Square

Might as well rename Dundas Street as well all streets named after historical figures who will have dark past revealed!!!!!
 
Show me the man and I will show you the crime.
 
I have family in Pittsburgh where their kids go to a HUGE Catholic high school named for a Cardinal. Over the weekend a petition was started to wipe his name off of the place. Apparently he's listed in the documents that came out last week.

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I am getting kind of sick and tired of hiding history to make up for the mistakes we have learned from.

It makes no sense to me. If these people did more harm then good or if these people's harm has changed today for the better because we now see them for the flaw they were back in the day, why not reflect that, instead of trying to wipe it out to fit out new PC entitled world?

Why not add to the "monument" with the change that happened? Why remove it and replace with something else, usually less impacting?
 
We all know they won't be happy until everything in Canada is named after Muslim prophets
Actually we should change the country name too
Too much negative history associated with it
 
Use numbered streets so no one can take offence. Actually, you can't use First Street because you dont want to encourage kids to be competitive.
 
History is full of bad stuff. Pretty much every beloved historical figure has skeletons in their closet, because they were human. Also, people seem to not understand historical context. There are things that make sense at the time that no longer make sense now. I don’t see why we demonize people for doing things that were perfectly fine according to the mores at the time. Yes, in hindsight a lot of things look bad and some of these figures might’ve looked back and regretted their actions eventually, but they usually acted in accordance with their time. Humans are not omniscient, it is not reasonable to ask us to act in a way that won’t offend people hundreds of years from now because we have no idea what people’s values will be then.

I’m not suggesting we forgive people who engaged in genocide or other horrors, but people need to understand the historical context of one’s actions rather than just blindly demonizing. Things are not black and white, there are always shades of grey.
 
History is full of bad stuff. Pretty much every beloved historical figure has skeletons in their closet, because they were human. Also, people seem to not understand historical context. There are things that make sense at the time that no longer make sense now. I don’t see why we demonize people for doing things that were perfectly fine according to the mores at the time. Yes, in hindsight a lot of things look bad and some of these figures might’ve looked back and regretted their actions eventually, but they usually acted in accordance with their time. Humans are not omniscient, it is not reasonable to ask us to act in a way that won’t offend people hundreds of years from now because we have no idea what people’s values will be then.

I’m not suggesting we forgive people who engaged in genocide or other horrors, but people need to understand the historical context of one’s actions rather than just blindly demonizing. Things are not black and white, there are always shades of grey.


There are ONLY 'shades of grey' !!!


As I recall Dundas was only guilty of establishing a 15-year transition to the end of slavery. It was a big change for everyone. Quite complex in a period of not so fast communications.

IF you take it in the context of how long it takes to plan anything today - even mundane things like transit or pipelines - it does not look like a long transition.
 
Might as well rename Dundas Street as well all streets named after historical figures who will have dark past revealed!!!!!

Wait until they start going through all their past Twitter feeds.

We all know they won't be happy until everything in Canada is named after Muslim prophets

Really? Is that how you see it? I thought I was bad at jumping to conclusions.
 
We all know they won't be happy until everything in Canada is named after Muslim prophets
Actually we should change the country name too
Too much negative history associated with it

What's wrong with renaming it to Muhammad square? :confused: