I think this is final proof that Dubai skyscrapers have 'jumped the shark'. I mean, how many YEARS of business formation will they need to fill up that building with viable businesses?? I know someone who just got back from Dubai and Abu Dhabi; he said it's just a big artificial Vegas in the middle of nowhere without a shred of authentic local flavour.
Dubai Skyscraper to be over one km. high
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U should be upset with Vegas resource blackhole in the desert.tboy said:
Think closer to home, Centre island & Montreal island. Marine life more adapt than you realize, merely relocate.
Common practice to landfill: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_islands
It's building technique with green features. Like the Osaka airport, building in the sea/gulf presents unique challenges. UN project habitable land scares in upcoming century. Dutch, Singapore & others to learn from this project.
Not necessary, no different than Egypt or S. Africa World cup tour doable with planning.tboy said:
Hub to/from Asia. Promotions for European & their middle east neighbors. Expect price to drop as demand & increase competition.
Toureast with 12 days YYZ to Dubai & Egypt tour.
Dude, you make about as much sense as a 3 dollar bill. Seriously. Do you think the prices will EVER drop? With houses that would cost $400K here going for 5 - 6 million there?goodtime said:
Give your head a shake (or a sheik lol) Dubai will always and ever be nothing but a playground for the rich and shameless.
As for your inane comment about centre island. For the record: centre island (and all our islands) were formed by a hurricane that dumped a ton of material on our doorstep. The material came from the Scarborough bluffs. As for the marine habitat, it wasn't disturbed by US building or making an island, it was formed by a natural event.
Oh, and in case you don't know it: just because someone else fucked up doesn't make it right for someone else to do it.......
You should consider a different handle...
Perhaps you heard of the term, land reclamation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Islands
Dubai on my tdl in '09 or '10. Expand your horizon. The world is ours to discover. Tip: Don't believe in everything you see on CNN.
Perhaps you heard of the term, land reclamation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Islands
Dubai on my tdl in '09 or '10. Expand your horizon. The world is ours to discover. Tip: Don't believe in everything you see on CNN.
You should think before you post:goodtime said:You should consider a different handle...
Perhaps you heard of the term, land reclamation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Islands
Dubai on my tdl in '09 or '10. Expand your horizon. The world is ours to discover. Tip: Don't believe in everything you see on CNN.
"The islands were originally a 9 km peninsula or sand spit extending from the mainland. The islands are composed of alluvial deposits from the erosion of the Scarborough Bluffs. Longshore lake currents deposited sediments at the south end of the harbour and began to form a sand spit. A violent storm in 1858 blew a hole at the base of the spit which was later formalized as an entrance to the harbour called the Eastern Gap.[1][2]"
Ok, so the storm didn't deposit the sand, it just blew a hole in it...my bad....
But if you're comparing using landfill to extend the island to form the area of the airport to the palm and earth communities built in Dubai? Dude, give your fricken head a really REALLY big shake.....
BTW: let me ask you: do you enjoy shark fin soup too? With your attitude towards hatural marine habitats I bet you do......
Try getting off the couch & open your eyes. The world is round.
What's the point of land reclaimation? Since you're expert, you alreday knew they running out of land, expanded into the desert. And it's CDN & EU expats benefit from all the building boom.
Building airport is right, living on land is wrong? T.O. considered landfill for lakeview condos? And that's ok? If you
been in the Humber river, you'll realize how env. friendily we are.
In terms of costs, not so long ago air travel was out of reach for common Joe. Today, SW airline $19/one way between hubs.
Learn some Economics, supply & demand curves. Like other tourist mecas Vegas & Macau, competition will drive price down, not today but eventually.
You should try set goal in life & work toward it. Guess you haven't heard of the Detroit assembly worker that saved up for a Stealth.
The world can be a friendly place if you choose to experience & understand it.
What's the point of land reclaimation? Since you're expert, you alreday knew they running out of land, expanded into the desert. And it's CDN & EU expats benefit from all the building boom.
Building airport is right, living on land is wrong? T.O. considered landfill for lakeview condos? And that's ok? If you
been in the Humber river, you'll realize how env. friendily we are.
In terms of costs, not so long ago air travel was out of reach for common Joe. Today, SW airline $19/one way between hubs.
Learn some Economics, supply & demand curves. Like other tourist mecas Vegas & Macau, competition will drive price down, not today but eventually.
You should try set goal in life & work toward it. Guess you haven't heard of the Detroit assembly worker that saved up for a Stealth.
The world can be a friendly place if you choose to experience & understand it.
This picture http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp15/oddsoxster/dubai.jpg might give you an idea of why they want to make it so tall - they're looking for clean air!
Check out http://www.yannarthusbertrand2.org/ for some magnificent photography!
Check out http://www.yannarthusbertrand2.org/ for some magnificent photography!
LOL badtime, go back and read my posts: I never ONCE said "what we did was right", I specifically said "just because we did it doesn't make it right". I can tell english is your second language so I'll excuse you this time.....
As for Humber bay, we're talking about the Toronto Islands, stick with the program will you?
As for experiencing the world, dude, you have NO idea what you're talking about. I travelled for over 2 years straight and probably have seen more of this hemisphere than you have and I will tell you this: Of all the places I've travelled there are some set aside for the elite, and then there are some for the masses and Dubai is definitely one of the former. They will NEVER become another vegas, disneyland, SLC, Cuba, BVIs etc.
Well, I say that with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek because if they go through a bust like some have forecast? Then maybe you WILL see a hotel room for $29.00 a night there....(but I highly doubt it).
As for airfares, show me an overseas return flight to dubai for under $100.00 and I'll but you the ticket. In addition, show me a hotel room in Dubai under $75.00 a night and I'll buy you a couple of nights there too.....If you can't ? STFU already.
Edited: I just checked at expedia, and the average airfare is around $4000.00 return and I was surprized to see you could actually get a hotel room for $125.00 a night....(but one has to wonder if it comes with straw and a place to park your camel lol).
As for Humber bay, we're talking about the Toronto Islands, stick with the program will you?
As for experiencing the world, dude, you have NO idea what you're talking about. I travelled for over 2 years straight and probably have seen more of this hemisphere than you have and I will tell you this: Of all the places I've travelled there are some set aside for the elite, and then there are some for the masses and Dubai is definitely one of the former. They will NEVER become another vegas, disneyland, SLC, Cuba, BVIs etc.
Well, I say that with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek because if they go through a bust like some have forecast? Then maybe you WILL see a hotel room for $29.00 a night there....(but I highly doubt it).
As for airfares, show me an overseas return flight to dubai for under $100.00 and I'll but you the ticket. In addition, show me a hotel room in Dubai under $75.00 a night and I'll buy you a couple of nights there too.....If you can't ? STFU already.
Edited: I just checked at expedia, and the average airfare is around $4000.00 return and I was surprized to see you could actually get a hotel room for $125.00 a night....(but one has to wonder if it comes with straw and a place to park your camel lol).
A one km tall tower.
From his SCTV days John Candy had a great line that would apply to that tower when its full of them.
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From his SCTV days John Candy had a great line that would apply to that tower when its full of them.
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Couchboy, it really shows how little you know...tboy said:
What's the real issue here, Greenpeace rejected you? Or against people with more money than you? different than you? If you're such environment protectionist, advocate closer to home. Let me connect the dots for you. More marine life killed by trash from Humber river & raw sewage from Lakeshore filteration plants. Seen plenty of dead fish & seagulls over the years all the way to the islands.
Going to the beer store may be a trip for some but wouldn't consider that travelling. Comparing Dubai to Cuba shows how you're so out of touch.
Flying out of YYZ, taxes alone are over $100. Let me make a paper airplane for your imaginary trip.
www.ethiad.com.com $1,300 yyz to xnb via Abu Dhabi. If you can't afford $1,300, stay home. Emirate more expensive & upscale. For the travel agency type, Toureast package is $4,400 incl. airfare & 12 nights hotel Dubai & Egypt.
Using Expedia N.A. search engine for Dubai. Do you even know where's Middle east? Hint: Hotels tend to attract locally before promote abroad. Western hotel chains playing catch up in Dubai.
Take a look at, 3 stars for less than $125 available thou outer edge of city.
www.godubai.com
www.dubai.ws
www.hotels.com
Rule of thumb, outside of N.A. deduct a star. ie: 3 stars M.E. = 2 stars in N.A.
Hey Fucktard, I can read just fine, can YOU? Obviously you can't.
Go back and READ R E A D my post: I DID say you COULD get a hotel for $125.00 a night...DOH
I know many local schools offer ESL classes, I suggest you enroll in one, that way you can actually contribute intelligently to these discussions.....
As for the cost of flights, you're the tard that brought up SW Airlines flights for $19.00....sheesh, are you that DENSE? So if you're going to make me a paper airplane, make one for yourself because you're the one who brought up the "cheap" airfares, damn, this really is like talking to a child.
As for comparing Dubai to Cuba, you're trying to argue that Dubai will become a hot vacation spot, Cuba et al, are hot vacation spots, therefore the comparison applies. But then again, seeing that requires congnative thought processes yet obviously you're lacking in this area.
Have fun in dubai, post some pictures when you get back because I'm done with with you on this topic, it's like talking to a 4 yr old.
Go back and READ R E A D my post: I DID say you COULD get a hotel for $125.00 a night...DOH
I know many local schools offer ESL classes, I suggest you enroll in one, that way you can actually contribute intelligently to these discussions.....
As for the cost of flights, you're the tard that brought up SW Airlines flights for $19.00....sheesh, are you that DENSE? So if you're going to make me a paper airplane, make one for yourself because you're the one who brought up the "cheap" airfares, damn, this really is like talking to a child.
As for comparing Dubai to Cuba, you're trying to argue that Dubai will become a hot vacation spot, Cuba et al, are hot vacation spots, therefore the comparison applies. But then again, seeing that requires congnative thought processes yet obviously you're lacking in this area.
Have fun in dubai, post some pictures when you get back because I'm done with with you on this topic, it's like talking to a 4 yr old.
you guys are both correct and probably slightly incorrect about Dubai's role.
The Middle East is a funny place; there are a lot of individuals with a lot of money but throughout the Middle East there are few welcoming, comfortable places to spend it. This role was exclusively Lebanon's for decades: casinos, nightclubs, swimming with both sexes scantily clad, skiing, alcohol, hashish, sp's. In other words, safe, accepted commercial debauchery within a few hours or less of your own home, where you were welcome, spoke the language, knew the food, etc. Perfect.
Morocco inherited this role from Lebanon. The trouble was always twofold: Morocco is quite far from most of the MIddle East's moneyedclass, and more base, in the Middle East Morocco is seen sort of as rather low class, the street walker compared to the courtesan.
The amount of money these moneyed Middle Easterners throw around is staggering when they are away from the restrictions of home. The Dubai sheik may have commercail altruism at heart for his tiny country, but certainly he seems to be inheriting some of Lebanon and Morocco's provenance. It will be interesting to see if it sustains, his family clamps down on the excesses, or if it becomes more global than regional.
The Middle East is a funny place; there are a lot of individuals with a lot of money but throughout the Middle East there are few welcoming, comfortable places to spend it. This role was exclusively Lebanon's for decades: casinos, nightclubs, swimming with both sexes scantily clad, skiing, alcohol, hashish, sp's. In other words, safe, accepted commercial debauchery within a few hours or less of your own home, where you were welcome, spoke the language, knew the food, etc. Perfect.
Morocco inherited this role from Lebanon. The trouble was always twofold: Morocco is quite far from most of the MIddle East's moneyedclass, and more base, in the Middle East Morocco is seen sort of as rather low class, the street walker compared to the courtesan.
The amount of money these moneyed Middle Easterners throw around is staggering when they are away from the restrictions of home. The Dubai sheik may have commercail altruism at heart for his tiny country, but certainly he seems to be inheriting some of Lebanon and Morocco's provenance. It will be interesting to see if it sustains, his family clamps down on the excesses, or if it becomes more global than regional.
Match my understanding. I'm by no mean middle-east expert. Keeping an open mind to experience & learn.antaeus said:
