Drunk Driving is Murder

[Questor]

I don't agree because somebody who gets drunk everyday needs more alcohol to effect them. So them being at .2 might be the same feeling for them as the guy who hardly drinks like me at .1

We both would likely drive just as bad...I had 2 drinks last summer in the Falls and drove back to my hotel after waiting a good half hour after, I wasn't drunk but it did effect me.

And with self administered breathalizers at all bars, people would try to drink right up to the limit.


This problem isn't new like in the 1980's was the first real crack down, drunk driving deaths are off the highs in the 80's but have been holding steady or slowly going up since the 90's.

Until cars can drive themselves we might have drunk drivers.

I am just trying to make some suggestions for improving the laws that exist. You can find fault with any law, if that is your goal. Are you an anarchist? It seems you would prefer no laws because you can find a potential flaw in everything. For sure there will be drunk drivers until cars can drive themselves. I think my suggestions warrant consideration, even if they are not perfect, because they could potentially reduce drunk driving. I don't think the points you raise above address the questions I have brought up, nor are they valid reasons for not making changes to the law.

 

[hunter001]

Link to story http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml

 

[S.C. Joe]

I am not for no laws, just fewer laws. Have ONE set limit...you are either drunk or not..this impair, drunk and now maybe you are really drunk sends the message that some drunks on the roads are not as bad as others, when in fact they all have been known to cause deaths.

I bring up the 1980's cause this drunk driving thing has been look at long and hard, everything in this thread has been thought about, most all in the 1980's.

The reason I hear that there isn't a "super drunk" limit is some drunks do have a higher blood alcohol level since they are always drinking. A true drunk is never sober, they never are at .0000, even the next day with nothing to drink...alcohol can build up in the fat cells.

 

[daty]

a bit of levity

The old saying that the best defense is to take the offense

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090103/ap_on_fe_st/odd_drunk_teen911_6



smart girl in many ways


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[BuffNaked]

You want laws to curb drinking and driving? Here are the laws you need then:

Laws that provide better public transportation. If people had an easy way to get home they wouldn't drive drunk.
Laws that don't kick every one out at 2 in the morn. I hate that 2am drunk driver rush.
Laws that limit the serving of patrons. Fine have a few drinks. But save getting wasted for home.

These laws prevent drinking and driving and not punish it.

 

[thompo69]

Laws that limit the serving of patrons. Fine have a few drinks. But save getting wasted for home.

This is actually already in place. Most places just don't bother enforcing it, and AGCO spends more of their time going after other infractions.

 

[Angela@Mirage]

You want laws to curb drinking and driving? Here are the laws you need then:

Laws that provide better public transportation. If people had an easy way to get home they wouldn't drive drunk.
Laws that don't kick every one out at 2 in the morn. I hate that 2am drunk driver rush.
Laws that limit the serving of patrons. Fine have a few drinks. But save getting wasted for home.

These laws prevent drinking and driving and not punish it.

Public transportation is not the greatest in Toronto. A responsible adult would have enough sense to have all preperations in place so that they would not have to resort to drinking and driving. For example; bank an extra few bucks per month, so when you are partying, you have some extra cash to get home safely.

 

[thompo69]

There you have it folks, the real reason why laws aren't working-judges who won't take a stand. We have the laws in place we just don't have judges who care.

It has nothing to do with judges. It has to do with AGCO.

 

[HT_Bob]

Drunk Driving Penalties in other Countries

Australia:
The names of the drivers are sent to the local newspapers and are printed under the heading "He's Drunk and in Jail".
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Malaysia:
The Driver is jailed and if married, his wife is jailed too.
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South Africa
A 10 year prison sentence and the equivalent of a $10,000.00 fine
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Turkey
Drunk drivers are taken 20 miles outside of town by police and are forced to walk back under escort
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Norway
Three weeks in jail at hard labor, one year loss of license. Second offense within five years, license revoked for life.
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Finland & Sweden
Automatic jail for one year of hard labor
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Costa Rica
Police remove plates fron car
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Russia
License revoked for life
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England
One year suspension and a $250.00 fine and jail for one year
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France
Three year loss of license, one year in jail and a $1000.00 fine
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Poland
Jail, fine and forced to attend political lectures
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Bulgaria
A second conviction results in execution
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El Salvador
Your first offense is your last---execution by firing squad
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there are some tuff penalty's there.

Don't Drink and Drive, Stay Alive.

Bob

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[S.C. Joe]

El Salvador is a real great place to live down there the people dreams are to sneak in to Mexico for a better life, lol.

 

[Aardvark154]

I have known habitual drunk drivers. They would get permission to drive to and from work, and still drink. They considered it a joke.

If so, they must have had phenomenal luck in avoiding being arrested and convicted generally a modification of sentence allowing driving to and from work is only granted on first conviction. Good luck finding a judge who will agree to such when it is the third conviction!

 

[S.C. Joe]

Sadly it sometimes is hard to get busted driving drunk

Its how drunk over the limit you are and where at and what time. During late rush hour after happy hour at the bar after work, unless you hit another car, chances are you can get away in bumper to bumper traffic..just follow the other car in front.

Late at night if there is a car behind yours, creep over and watch the other car, if it follows you car drifting over, likely that driver is drunk and just watching your bumper.

Don't ask how I know how drunks drive ..was long long ago, I stop drinking before my luck ran out.