Drug pushers pushing on SP's

kono

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I've known about this problem for a while now but it just hit me when I spoke to one of my close friend's who works in the industry. This has happened to her on several occasion where one of her client's tried to push drugs on her.
Get her hooked and now she's a slave to the drug/s.
That's great for the client because now he only has to pay her drugs.
These people sicken me! They have no respect for human life or dignity. Think about it. You get someone hooked on heavy drugs and they're F-ed quite possibly for life. And it's almost an impossible hole to dig yourself out of.
I can think of a few high profile EE girls who've had to deal with these issues and are still fighting the addiction. And PLEASE don't name names here. this is just a general thread regarding drug pushers. I just want people's opinion and or experiences on the matter. Personally, I would like to see this industry drugs free (Heavy drugs). It ruins people lives! But that's wishful thinking I guess. For SP's on here who are new to the biz, don't let these guys persuade you into taking drugs because it won't end good.
 
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Get them hooked and you have residual sales.

That said when it comes to pimps and pushers I say terminate with extreme prejudice.
 

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okay, i'm gonna take some slack here...but isn't the ol' saying" Sex, drugs and Rock and Roll?"
is it wrong for Charlie Sheen to bust out a case full o coke and start spreadin the love, with his den of ladies?
i mean, it's not like they are saying no....
you no reason to take heat

you just saying this not 1955 anymore.
maybe our parents and grandparents were right.
 

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exactly papa! it's 2011, and i think everyone knows the dangers that go into doin drugs( and from a young age as well)...it's a choice people make as well, and not always forced upon by predators.

you are exhibiting the not me mind set.

Drugs are addictive and not a play thing

now you will make the pot arguement but I doubt the OP was talking pot
 

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Thankx PapaSmerf :)

A lot of the girlls starting out are fresh out of high school (Not all but most). At that age girls may not have much will power to say no, or maybe they're more easily persuaded. And that's unfortunate that someonw would prey on someone who hasn't had much real life experience (just generalizing).
Really, all it takes is a smooth taker and she'll buy anything.
 

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Thankx PapaSmerf :)

A lot of the girlls starting out are fresh out of high school (Not all but most). At that age girls may not have much will power to say no, or maybe they're more easily persuaded. And that's unfortunate that someonw would prey on someone who hasn't had much real life experience (just generalizing).
Really, all it takes is a smooth taker and she'll buy anything.

doesn't matter much that you are selling a YOGO or meth it is still crap
 

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Oh, that's ok then?

Drug dealers giving a young woman a "choice" to try drugs?

When does this become pushing? Do they have to tie her down and inject heroin into her arm for a few days?

The original poster said "This has happened to her on several occasion where one of her client's tried to push drugs on her. " Were you there to know otherwise and refute her statement?

This "choice" is the excuse of dirtbag low life predators the world over.
I couldnt agree with you more. I know we in a different world but it sure as hell doesn't make it okay to "push" drugs ontp anyone for that matter.

To the people who seem to be okay with this let me ask you a question.
Let say you had a daughter who was "pushed"(Friends, Dealer etc..) into taking heroin. How would you feel then? I'm sure your opinions would change?
 

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I am a SP.. I am a human being with a mind of my own.. so are these other Sp's and MP's . if someone trys to push anything on me. wether it be drugs ,bbfs or fucking olives( i hate them). I tell them where to go and how to get there .. its called using your brain. these girls have the option to say NO.. they choose not to say no so they can look cool or some bullshit.
 

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I am a SP.. I am a human being with a mind of my own.. so are these other Sp's and MP's . if someone trys to push anything on me. wether it be drugs ,bbfs or fucking olives( i hate them). I tell them where to go and how to get there .. its called using your brain. these girls have the option to say NO.. they choose not to say no so they can look cool or some bullshit.
Exactly. Women are not delicate little things needing constant male protection.

They can make their own decisions and accept the responsibilities and consequences of their choices and actions.
 

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No one "PUSHED" anything on her, she was given a choice and she made the wrong decision.
Actually, no, some clients push, and push pretty hard. They hire an SP to "party" with them and they expect her to do drugs with them, often cocaine. If the SP refuses they will push and cajole and complain. It is an occupational hazard for SP's, and most especially for outcall SP's.

While I'm sure quite a lot of SP's have the backbone to say no and mean it, some lack the confidence, don't want to disappoint clients, or don't want to create a confrontation. Especially some of the new girls in the industry who aren't fully sure what's expected of them or what they can say no to can easily be pushed into doing something they wouldn't otherwise do, and wind up with a nasty addiction.

Technically you are correct that they had a CHOICE, but I don't think you are aware of how hard some clients push on this issue. I'll wait for the ladies here to chime in, but I've spoken to more than one SP who has complained about this.
 

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Really?

So you also think it is acceptable for a drug dealer to offer free drugs to those who are -by definition- stupid or insecure or vulnerable enough to start down that well known One-Way street?
You will always have a minority of people doing stupid things and managing to fuck themselves over because of it. The question is should the government become Big Brother watching what we do and restricting our freedom and liberty because of it? And I say no.

I like fuji's points. It does make sense for an employer to look out for the well-being of their employees (they are a investment) by educating them on drug use, how to refuse drugs in a clever manner and so on. What I don't like is saying how women are dumb little things that constantly need a man to protect them, look out for them, etc. It reduces both of us into out-dated gender roles.
 

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I once tested this theory, because #1 I was fearful the girl I was about to see was into some hard stuff and with that risky behavior a potential I was concerned what else she was being risky with. So before we ever met I asked her, what she would think if I brought some stuff with me. She replied, for the right stuff she would be happy to give freebies. No 'pushing' just asking and it was quite sad. Needless to say I moved on, but there are a ton of non-workers using more and more drugs and those in this industry have a little more $ on hand and a lot of potential issues they are trying to escape. Drugs are extremely prevalent in this industry and if you are concerned about someone, follow my test and you will find your answer in seconds.
That is just a fucking stupid thing to do.. just like when a asshats asks me for bbfs and i say fuckoff.. then they say it was just a test.. well I say you failed cuz I wont see you .. and I would do the same dam thing to anyone who likes to "tests" right to do not see. and its really not free . drugs costs money to..
The girsl out there that are not quite sure and are new should really talk to a girl who has been around for a bit .
 
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Chris Rock once did a bit on the drug trade.

"No one needs to sell drugs. Drugs sell themselves. They're not a vacuum cleaner, or a set of encyclopedias."

When did personal responsibility become passe? You get offered something you don't want, say no. Problem solved.
 
Some ladies will start this work with an inner strength and from a position of power (the freedom to say no, the money to walk away) but many, many ladies don't. Age is a factor but social and economic status also come into play, if you are 18, no job, no money in the bank and sent to a 40 year old mans house to have sex with him in order to pay your rent it's not going to be easy to say to him "No thanks, I only fuck" when he offers you drugs. You know it's likely the end of your date and you may really need that money, there is also the possibility he'll complain to the agency or write a bad review which may cost you future money as well, and of course there is the odd guy that threatens violence or is so paranoid they will try to stop you from leaving. These are not simple decisions and low risk activities, for a lady that is in a tough situation or is unsure of her future. It's not easy to find your legs, to know how to say no to a person in a position of power and to do so in the least offensive way possible, to expect a lady to do that when she is fresh out of school and with little life experience is ridiculous, everyone struggles with saying no to their boss or clients and it takes practice to get it right.

I've been yelled at, insulted and threatened by clients that I was not willing to indulge when they offered me something, I've also had clients call agencies to complain when I told them I wasn't staying. I've also had the reverse happen where I've been on an outcall or an incall with another lady that was high, drunk or somehow incapacitated, and I've had agencies send me on dates where the previous lady was high, drunk or made the client uncomfortable because of a related issue. I've dealt with agencies that supported me in my choices and ones that didn't. I've also worked in offices where a good number of the employees were battling drug or alcohol addiction so it's not something limited to this industry.
I think it's important to keep in mind who you are dealing with and why they are there. If you are in a position of power over the person then be aware of it and respectful of your position just as you would like those you deal with each day to do for you.
 

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Some ladies will start this work with an inner strength and from a position of power (the freedom to say no, the money to walk away) but many, many ladies don't. Age is a factor but social and economic status also come into play, if you are 18, no job, no money in the bank and sent to a 40 year old mans house to have sex with him in order to pay your rent it's not going to be easy to say to him "No thanks, I only fuck" when he offers you drugs. You know it's likely the end of your date and you may really need that money, there is also the possibility he'll complain to the agency or write a bad review which may cost you future money as well, and of course there is the odd guy that threatens violence or is so paranoid they will try to stop you from leaving. These are not simple decisions and low risk activities, for a lady that is in a tough situation or is unsure of her future. It's not easy to find your legs, to know how to say no to a person in a position of power and to do so in the least offensive way possible, to expect a lady to do that when she is fresh out of school and with little life experience is ridiculous, everyone struggles with saying no to their boss or clients and it takes practice to get it right.

I've been yelled at, insulted and threatened by clients that I was not willing to indulge when they offered me something, I've also had clients call agencies to complain when I told them I wasn't staying. I've also had the reverse happen where I've been on an outcall or an incall with another lady that was high, drunk or somehow incapacitated, and I've had agencies send me on dates where the previous lady was high, drunk or made the client uncomfortable because of a related issue. I've dealt with agencies that supported me in my choices and ones that didn't. I've also worked in offices where a good number of the employees were battling drug or alcohol addiction so it's not something limited to this industry.
I think it's important to keep in mind who you are dealing with and why they are there. If you are in a position of power over the person then be aware of it and respectful of your position just as you would like those you deal with each day to do for you.
Well said, and may I add that you're stunning!
 

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Please don't do drugs and don't offer drugs to anyone. Educational Program!

 
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