Drownings

SkyRider

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Why are there so many drownings this year and it is not even a hot Summer? It seems that almost all the victims are not locals. Do they not know the danger of lakes and ponds?
 
SkyRider said:
Why are there so many drownings this year and it is not even a hot Summer? It seems that almost all the victims are not locals. Do they not know the danger of lakes and ponds?

I suspect most involve alcohol.
 
Currents at traditional swimming holes running stronger becasue of rain and cool weather and water is colder for the same reason.

Bow river in Calgary is notorious for folks underestimating the current especially over a little three or four foot weir, once you get caught its like a giant washing machine.
 
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All drownings are tragic but the most heatbreaking is the two Pakistani men who drowned trying to rescue a 9 year old girl (who survived). What would you do if your 9 year old or dog is in danger of drowning? Would you leap in?
 
Cycleguy007 said:
Because of global warming, the ice caps are melting and the water is so much deeper now!

No... it's true... just ask Al Gore! :rolleyes:

(He got a Nobel prize dontcha know...)
And don't forget he invented the internet...why without him this thread wouldn't exist!
 
Sukdeep said:
No question, if a kid is in trouble, I'd be right in. Not sure about the dog...

Dogs can probably manage to survive better than a man in water. I recall seeing headlines in the past that says: "Man Drowns Trying to Save Dog."
 
SkyRider said:
What would you do if your 9 year old or dog is in danger of drowning? Would you leap in?



If you have to ask you do not know me.
 
SkyRider said:
All drownings are tragic but the most heatbreaking is the two Pakistani men who drowned trying to rescue a 9 year old girl (who survived). What would you do if your 9 year old or dog is in danger of drowning? Would you leap in?


I would do anything to save my dog.
 
SkyRider said:
All drownings are tragic but the most heatbreaking is the two Pakistani men who drowned trying to rescue a 9 year old girl (who survived). What would you do if your 9 year old or dog is in danger of drowning? Would you leap in?


Damned right I would. Especially for my kids. I would jump in for a dog I know that if I did not have kids. I would however think twice about risks to myself knowing I have kids for the sake of a dog. I just have to be around for them.
 
The Bandit said:
Why play with your life, you can buy a lifejacket for $15.

When is the last time you kept one in your car?

With all the flooding around in the last 24 hours that might seem like good advice.

Ironically I have one in my vehicle all sailing season.
 
jiiimmm said:
I suspect most involve alcohol.

And not wearing a life jacket. You may look like a dork, but better a live dork as opposed to being dead.

As for a dog - They are actually pretty good swimmers and can take care of themselves. If they are caught in a current and cannot get out of it, chances are the average person would not manage any better.

Any kid, especially my own, I would try to save them. If they have a life jacket on it may buy you time to assess the situation. If they are not wearing a life jacket - Instinct should take over.

I know that the Muskoka's have had a large amount of drownings lately. I am pretty sure most of them could have been avoided if life jackets had been worn.
 
Ref said:
I know that the Muskoka's have had a large amount of drownings lately. I am pretty sure most of them could have been avoided if life jackets had been worn.

Most of them could have been avoided if people weren't stupid.

2 of them died because they went drunk midnight canoeing.

Other drownings were at Moon River, jumping into the falls when the water was running too fast and high.
 
People are stupid. Period. IT"S THE FUCKIN" WILDERNESS!!!! It's NOT like going to the local urban park. IT"S THE FUCKIN" WILDERNESS!!!!

I was raised with a respect, and a healthy fear, of the outdoors. I live in the city now, but grew up in the wilds of northern Ontario. If you can't handle yourself out there - if you've never spent time there - learn about it before you go. A campground is not experience.

If this life-jacket law goes through, or any other laws regarding the great outdoors, I may seriously re-consider my position on immigration & tourism. Perhaps we should start giving out handbooks along with visas.

As Canadians we expect a certain number of wilderness-related deaths every year. Even the most experienced outdoorsman can run into trouble. But it's absolutly ridiculous for the majority of Canadians to have to endure being fenced off (literally or figuratively) from our amazing forests & lakes because of the disrespect, ignorance & stupidity of a few visitors & newcomers.

This does not mean I have no sympathy for these people and their families. It is aweful to lose someone you love - especially in a preventable accident. But man... are we really so far gone as a species that we think the wilderness is no different than hanging out in the backyard?

Grrr!!!!
 
Solution is very simple ban booze on boats and ENFORCE the wearing of LIFE JACKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The Bandit said:
WTF???? :confused:

Yeah right, like no Mangia-cakes fall out of their boat drunk...and drown.

Manga-cake drunks who fall out of their boats are OBVIOUSLY stupid and Canadians have, over DECADES, responded appropriately - "What an idiot. Serves him right. Shame for his family though." We don't go all "nanny-state" and start making laws to protect adults from themselves. Once again...

IT'S THE FUCKIN' WILDERNESS!!!!

If you don't know it, stay out of it. Period.

If the drowned father & uncle of the little girl who they died saving had been more itelligent, the entire situation would not have even happened. For the uneducated, unexperienced and unexposed there are plenty of Provincial Parks in forests, near still(er) waters, with campgrounds that feel like the wilderness complete with lifeguards & park rangers all trained in wilderness & water safety.
 
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I am not a boater so bear with me.Is there any rules regs etc re: buying a boat? Are there any tests like a drivers test to MAKE SURE someone is QUALIFIED to operate a boat in Ontario?

Just wondering