Driving peeves

[rhuarc29]

1. People who don't signal lane changes, but instead signal turns as if they weren't equally important. The whole point of a signal is to let drivers around you know what your intentions are. It's quite obvious you are turning when you're in a turn lane, but if you're going to try to squeeze between me and the car in front of me atleast do me the courtesy of warning me.

2. People who tailgate you, but when they have a chance to pass they don't go for it.

3. People who see you coming in the fast lane and pull in your way so as to not "pass up their chance" to get around drivers in their own lane. Seriously, why hold us up when you could have passed the guy a minute earlier?

4. People who change lanes with no consideration for the actual flow of traffic in that lane.

 

[Medman52]

My PEEVE is with the Canadian Government.

Why oh why does it allow the importation of the so called "Luxury Imports" WITHOUT turn signals?

I have yet to see someone in a Porsche, Mercedes, Jaguar, BMW, Audi, Ferrari, and some others use their TURN SIGNALS!!!

These cars are obviously missing this option. It certainly couldn't be that these people think that since they lease "fancy cars" they are immune from the rules of the road?

No, certainly not, the cars must be missing the signals!

 

[Yoga Face]

In Ontario, if the light is green, you go into the intersection and get ready to make your left turn, lined up for the proper receiving lane. The green light is the equivalent of having an open road while it is green.

[B]In a big intersection, there's room for a couple of cars to line up for the turn. That's legal, I believe..

Is it leagal to be the second car in the intersection?. I was taught one at a time

 

[oldjones]

It is. The HTA leaves it to municipalities to define entering the intersection w/o being able to clear it as an offence, and as far as I know Toronto hasn't. Don't count on it elsewhere.

Still as stupid and anti-social as grabbing the money out of a wallet you've found instead of turning it in then justifying yourself by saying, "If I don't take it someone else will.

When you're the second car out there, and Bozo in the first car fails to make his turn, how smart do you feel? How generous minded are you when you're car No.3 and the two bozos are maybe trying to back up? Legal maybe, stupid for sure.

You do know what we call people who need laws to tell them how to behave, don't you?

 

[tboy]

You do know what we call people who need laws to tell them how to behave, don't you?

Well, laws are simply rules put down on paper and I guess whatever you're calling people who need laws/rules you'll be looking in the mirror when you call em that. I would hazard a guess that your parents probably taught you hundreds of rules when you were growing up to help you cope with living in a diverse society.

Laws and or societal rules are simply a way to make sure that everyone has the same set to follow. For eg: in muslim nations there are one set of rules for them to live by, here? We have another set. Is ours "better" than there's? Who are we to judge?

Same as the way we condone countries like Brazel for what they allow to happen to the rain forest. Who are we to comment when we did the same thing to our forests?

 

[His Majesty]

My PEEVE is with the Canadian Government.

Why oh why does it allow the importation of the so called "Luxury Imports" WITHOUT turn signals?

I have yet to see someone in a Porsche, Mercedes, Jaguar, BMW, Audi, Ferrari, and some others use their TURN SIGNALS!!!

These cars are obviously missing this option. It certainly couldn't be that these people think that since they lease "fancy cars" they are immune from the rules of the road?

No, certainly not, the cars must be missing the signals!

This is true, I hate all drivers of luxury vehicles like jaguar bmw mercedes etc
never use turn signals and expect everyone to yeild to them as if they are police.

 

[oldjones]

Well, laws are simply rules put down on paper and I guess whatever you're calling people who need laws/rules you'll be looking in the mirror when you call em that. I would hazard a guess that your parents probably taught you hundreds of rules when you were growing up to help you cope with living in a diverse society.

Laws and or societal rules are simply a way to make sure that everyone has the same set to follow. For eg: in muslim nations there are one set of rules for them to live by, here? We have another set. Is ours "better" than there's? Who are we to judge?

Same as the way we condone countries like Brazel for what they allow to happen to the rain forest. Who are we to comment when we did the same thing to our forests?

You're quite right to point out that a set of laws codifies the sorts of behaviours we expect and/or disaprove of. But most of us behave properly and legally because we agree with that code, and even more because we agree with changing what we don't agree with in a proper, orderly way. We're intelligent enough to see that behaving lawfully makes society work, so we don't park across drive ways, entice kids into our vans, or collect debts by arson, because that would be stupid and ultimately self defeating.

What we call dumbos who only behave properly because they're afraid of the law catching them is 'criminals'—'outlaws' being a bit archaic.

OK. I did express myself poorly, but I hope my intended sense is clearer now

 

[tboy]

Well OJ, I guess we can call all bicyclists that name that wasn't mentioned because I have YET to see one not follow even the basic HTA laws (and for fuji: yes, those laws apply to cyclists too).

I mean, who here has EVER seen a cyclist dismount while using a crosswalk???

 

[S.C. Joe]

3. People who see you coming in the fast lane and pull in your way so as to not "pass up their chance" to get around drivers in their own lane. Seriously, why hold us up when you could have passed the guy a minute earlier?

4. People who change lanes with no consideration for the actual flow of traffic in that lane.

Yep on the freeway with no exit ramps coming up for while why changed lanes if nobody is in front of you? (mind you they are not in the far left lane) I see that all the time--then they later drift back to the lane they were first in, duh.

 

[tboy]

Yep on the freeway with no exit ramps coming up for while why changed lanes if nobody is in front of you? (mind you they are not in the far left lane) I see that all the time--then they later drift back to the lane they were first in, duh.

know what I find a LOT? If someone is behind you, if they see you wanting to get into the next lane, THEY suddenly want to be there before you because, hey, that lane is BETTER.....it's better because if YOU want to be there, it just HAS to be better.....

 

[burt-oh-my!]

One more - you are in the fast lane, passing cars, but traffic is a bit sparse. You don't get over each time you pass a car because another in the middle lane which needs to be passed is reasonably close.

But then a guy comes up behind you and starts tailgating incredibly close. So you get over promptly - after all, what the hell, they guy isin a big hurry right? But Oh no, he starts to pass you like one tenth of a mile per hour faster than you were going. The result is that he eventually pulls up beside you just as you arrive at the car in fron. So now you have to brake and get in behind the guy.

If the guy is in such a hurry to have to tailgate, then after I get over - GET GOING! Nowadays, if I get over in that situation and i see the guy is giong almos tthe same speed as me, if he doesnt get going fast I speed up and get right back in.

 

[tboy]

LOL yeah, that's a pain burt......then you pull in behind him and he DOESN'T pass.....then when you flick the high beams at him he hits the brakes.....

 

[oldjones]

Well OJ, I guess we can call all bicyclists that name that wasn't mentioned because I have YET to see one not follow even the basic HTA laws (and for fuji: yes, those laws apply to cyclists too).

I mean, who here has EVER seen a cyclist dismount while using a crosswalk???

I have. Made me wanna cheer, but I was two cars back.

 

[tboy]

I have. Made me wanna cheer, but I was two cars back.

holy crap....you should have taken a picture. Getting that shot is rarer than a picture of the duck billed platypus or the dodo.......(sounds kind of like the time I saw a little old lady pushing a bundle buggy speed up while crossing the street when she saw the light turn amber. I wanted to get out and give her a hug!!!)

 

[oldjones]

Easy!

One out of two makes me at least half right.

 

[spankingman]

# 1 People when driving on the Highway who see a sign saying"lane closed ahead" continue to drive in that lane then EXPECT you to let them in rather than change lanes earlier.

#2 People who at ADVANCE GREEN lights don't move off fast enough then the advance is lost.

#3.Truckers who "ride your tail" in order to make you move over.Sre not trucks supposed to drive in the RIGHT lane on a highway?

#4 People who don't let you onto the road from say a strip mall

 

[tboy]

Well, the reason people don't go on an advanced or flashing green is because they were taught to proceed on a green light. So they only move when the light is on, when it goes off? They stop.

 

[oldjones]

As to #1: There was a book titled Traffic published a couple of years ago which reported studies showing driving to the farthest point and merging, or merging as soon as you saw the warning had no effect on traffic flow. What did affect it was braking/stopping which gummed up things for hours after the heavy-footed clown got thru.

The trick is to merge—and to allow others to merge—as smoothly as possible. That's good for everybody. Focussing on your own advantage by keeping others out, or by forcing your way in makes someone stop and everyone loses.

Oddly enough, not a bad rule for many aspects of life.

 

[tboy]

As to #1: There was a book titled Traffic published a couple of years ago which reported studies showing driving to the farthest point and merging, or merging as soon as you saw the warning had no effect on traffic flow. What did affect it was braking/stopping which gummed up things for hours after the heavy-footed clown got thru.

The trick is to merge—and to allow others to merge—as smoothly as possible. That's good for everybody. Focussing on your own advantage by keeping others out, or by forcing your way in makes someone stop and everyone loses.

Oddly enough, not a bad rule for many aspects of life.

Yeah, discovery channel had a 3 or 4 part series on traffic and they used a great example of a funnel: if you dump a bag of 100 marbles in it, they clog up and don't get through. You drop 4 or 5 at a time and they flow through without stopping. This demonstrated something like you're suggesting oj: as long as it is flowing, it will flow and to keep it flowing you have to keep the speed up, and merge smoothly.

They also showed an experiment they did in japan: They had a really large circle marked on a stadium field. They put 20 (?) cars in it. Plenty of room between each car. They had the drivers drive the circle and were instucted to maintain a certain distance from the car in front. After about 5 minutes there were traffic jams. What happened is one driver would start to lose concentration and speed up slightly then hit the brakes. As soon as the car behind saw the brakes, he slowed, then so on and so on until traffic stopped.

No cause, no obstruction in the road, no change in the road, no rain, nothing. A closed course and they achieved a traffic jam.

As Fuji likes to harp on: if he perceives a danger, he'll brake and or stop in the middle of the road. I see it all the time: Driving along and for no reason, the car in front puts on the brakes. Reminds me of those bumper stickers that said: I brake for deer, I brake for blondes, I brake for moose. The best I saw was "I brake for the hell of it" and that IS the most appropriate......

 

[oldjones]

Just because the dead horses are the easiest: Driving with your attention way ahead up the road—like you're supposed to—you should be able to see the bozos hitting their brakes, just like you can see you're coming to a red light. That's when you start to slow (with the teensiest tap on your brakes just to alert the guy behind) because only a fool rushes to a stop. You really wanna get there just after it goes gree. The whole point is to keep moving, and if we all worked on that, we'd have fewer jams.

And now back to the not dead-yet-horse: Which is why moving into the intersection and stopping is foolish. You've gained at most a trivial dozen yards over staying at the line, and you don't get to move any sooner than if you had. But if the guy behind, or the guys facing, or the ones in either of the cross street lanes aren't good, careful drivers you're the one stuck outout there. So you've made a jam, and nobody moves 'til it gets sorted. The point is to drive defensively, never give the bozos a chance at you, and keep moving. Not rush thirty feet to where you know you'll be stopping.