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GameBoy27

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I'm not victim blaming, I feel truly sorry for the pedestrians who needlessly lost their lives in this crash. Their families must be heartbroken.

What I will say, is never trust a green light. Look both ways, be aware of your surroundings, make sure traffic is stopped before you cross. I see so many people crossing the street, paying little attention to vehicles. Assuming that because they have the right of way, there's no need to be aware of what's going on around them. It's frightening actually. Any time I cross the street, I make sure the vehicles have come to a stop or if there's one approaching that might not stop, I've got time to get out of the way. Same goes for waiting to cross, I always stand back from the roadway until I get the green light.

When I'm driving, I see lots of pedestrians jaywalking. While jaywalking in itself isn't dangerous, it most certainly is when you force a vehicle to brake or swerve to avoid hitting you. Because you're assuming the driver is paying attention. That's a bad little game to play. Never force a vehicle to avoid hitting you, you won't win that game of chicken.

The driver involved in a crash that killed two pedestrians as well as himself late Thursday afternoon along Toronto’s waterfront was under a Canada-wide Criminal Code driving prohibition, police say.

The crash happened at about 5:30 p.m. at Lake Shore Blvd. W. and Superior Ave. in Mimico.

A 2020 Cadillac XT6 driven by a 36-year-old man was travelling east on Lake Shore Blvd. at a high rate of speed and ran through a red light and hit two pedestrians — a 75-year-old man and a 43-year-old woman — crossing the intersection with the right-of-way. The Cadillac then slammed into a parked flatbed truck.

Emergency crews arrived on scene to find bystanders performing life-saving measures on the driver and the pedestrians.

All three died at the scene.

Police say the driver had been involved in a minor “side swipe-style” collision 12 minutes prior to the crash and about 2.5 kilometres away. The driver had hit a parked van on the south side of Lakeshore Blvd. W. at Eighth St.

Cops say bystanders tried to assist the driver, who “appeared to be having a seizure and was unresponsive,” and smashed the window to open the door. Emergency personnel arrived but before police were on scene the driver got back in his vehicle and heading eastbound on Lakeshore to where he hit the pedestrians.

The driver, who police did not identify, was under a Canada-wide Criminal Code driving prohibition, a provincial driver’s license medical suspension and an additional administrative provincial driver’s license suspension.

Police are seeking any witnesses or those with video footage.

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/driver-two-pedestrians-killed-in-mimico-crash
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I'm not victim blaming, I feel truly sorry for the pedestrians who needlessly lost their lives in this crash. Their families must be heartbroken.

What I will say, is never trust a green light. Look both ways, be aware of your surroundings, make sure traffic is stopped before you cross. I see so many people crossing the street, paying little attention to vehicles. Assuming that because they have the right of way, there's no need to be aware of what's going on around them. It's frightening actually. Any time I cross the street, I make sure the vehicles have come to a stop or if there's one approaching that might not stop, I've got time to get out of the way. Same goes for waiting to cross, I always stand back from the roadway until I get the green light.

When I'm driving, I see lots of pedestrians jaywalking. While jaywalking in itself isn't dangerous, it most certainly is when you force a vehicle to brake or swerve to avoid hitting you. Because you're assuming the driver is paying attention. That's a bad little game to play. Never force a vehicle to avoid hitting you, you won't win that game of chicken.

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/driver-two-pedestrians-killed-in-mimico-crash
You are not wrong… I always told my kids to make eye contact, so they know the drivers were aware of them.
 

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I jaywalk all the time, but always make sure I have lots of time to cross.

The only good thing that came out of that accident is the driver is dead. Saves the good people of Ontario the cost of a trial.
 
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He's not even allowed to drive, caused a minor accident, tried to flee that accident and created a much bigger accident that killed 2 pedestrians...RIP for the 2 victims...and thankfully he's done harming other pedestrians now...
 

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There was a 14 year old girl walking home from school struck down in Hamilton yesterday at a busy intersection. Shes in critical but stable condition. No word on charges yet.
 

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I always told my kids to make eye contact, so they know the drivers were aware of them.
The problem are the tinted windows. Can't always see the driver inside the car.
 

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You are not wrong… I always told my kids to make eye contact, so they know the drivers were aware of them.

This. I always make eye contact. I am very careful at intersections. I think it's especially important with buses and trucks because they can't always see you.
I often do a little wave and nod as well.

One big problem I find is that too many drivers fly around corners on a green light and act like the pedestrian is at fault. I've had drivers almost hit me flying around a corner and then yell at me. I've given two different license plate numbers to the cops in the last
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I jaywalk all the time, but always make sure I have lots of time to cross.
I'm being a pedantic dickhead here, but I always feel the need to mention this when it comes up: there is no such thing as "jaywalking" in Ontario; "jaywalking" is pretty much only an American thing.

Pedestrians in Ontario are free to cross roads wherever they want to, so long as they're not interfering with the flow of traffic (ie, causing drivers to have to slam on their brakes).

Even if the red hand is up at a crosswalk, you are still free to legally walk across the street so long as it is safe to do so.

I mention this because it irritates the piss out of me when I see pedestrians standing on curbs when the red hand is up and there is no traffic -- they look like tools.
 

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I'm being a pedantic dickhead here, but I always feel the need to mention this when it comes up: there is no such thing as "jaywalking" in Ontario; "jaywalking" is pretty much only an American thing.

Pedestrians in Ontario are free to cross roads wherever they want to, so long as they're not interfering with the flow of traffic (ie, causing drivers to have to slam on their brakes).

Even if the red hand is up at a crosswalk, you are still free to legally walk across the street so long as it is safe to do so.

I mention this because it irritates the piss out of me when I see pedestrians standing on curbs when the red hand is up and there is no traffic -- they look like tools.
So the red hand is up and they are obeying the traffic signals. The only one looking like a tool is yourself.
 

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So the red hand is up and they are obeying the traffic signals. The only one looking like a tool is yourself.

If the red hand is up and there is no traffic, you are not legally obligated to wait for the "walk" sign to appear -- you are free to cross the road because it is safe.

Why on Earth would you stand on an empty street corner waiting for the "walk" sign to appear when it's perfectly safe to walk and you're not legally obligated to wait? Seems stupid to me.
 

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I wonder who the driver's car was registered to, and insured by, cuz without a valid driver's license in Ontario supposedly you can't register a car or insure it...
 

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I'm being a pedantic dickhead here, but I always feel the need to mention this when it comes up: there is no such thing as "jaywalking" in Ontario; "jaywalking" is pretty much only an American thing.

Pedestrians in Ontario are free to cross roads wherever they want to, so long as they're not interfering with the flow of traffic (ie, causing drivers to have to slam on their brakes).
While there's no specific "jaywalking" law in Ontario, it's simply a term people use for crossing the street between intersections.

"According to Toronto bylaws, it is legal to jaywalk, unless the pedestrian interferes with traffic. Under the Toronto Municipal Code, as long as a pedestrian yields to the right-of-way traffic, they are not in breach of the bylaw."


Even if the red hand is up at a crosswalk, you are still free to legally walk across the street so long as it is safe to do so.

I mention this because it irritates the piss out of me when I see pedestrians standing on curbs when the red hand is up and there is no traffic -- they look like tools.
This is where you're wrong. It's illegal to cross once the hand is flashing or solid.

When the countdown starts, it's accompanied by a flashing hand. That hand means “don't walk.” Section 144 (27) of Ontario's Highway Traffic Act (HTA) says “no pedestrian approaching pedestrian-control signals and facing a solid or flashing 'don't walk' indication shall enter the roadway.”

Of course, nobody will ever get a ticket for that.


So the red hand is up and they are obeying the traffic signals. The only one looking like a tool is yourself.
Hard to look like a tool when you're obeying the law.
 

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The problem are the tinted windows. Can't always see the driver inside the car.
I agree. That's a pet peeve of mine. Tinted driver and front passenger windows are illegal and I have no problem with Cops writing tickets for that. It's a safety issue.

"The law limits the allowable window tint on the front left and right windows to a maximum of 30% darkness."


I wonder who the driver's car was registered to, and insured by, cuz without a valid driver's license in Ontario supposedly you can't register a car or insure it...
The vehicle was registered to the perps girlfriend. Wait until she sees how much her insurance rates go up!
 
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I wonder who the driver's car was registered to, and insured by, cuz without a valid driver's license in Ontario supposedly you can't register a car or insure it...
Answering my own question, the car was registered to the driver's girlfriend, who must have been pretty well off to be able to afford a Cadillac SUV, unless by buying it for her he was able to get around not being able to register it in his own name. I wonder if her insurance will cover the lawsuits?
 

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Answering my own question, the car was registered to the driver's girlfriend, who must have been pretty well off to be able to afford a Cadillac SUV, unless by buying it for her he was able to get around not being able to register it in his own name. I wonder if her insurance will cover the lawsuits?
I initially heard the vehicle was registered to the perp's girlfriend, but then later heard it was registered to a company. So who knows. The driver had a long criminal past including dealing Fentanyl. While the initial collision would normally be handled by going to a collision reporting centre, the fact that he was having a "medial event" and bystanders had to break the window to get him out, should've warranted a Police car on the scene. He was there 12 minutes before he got back in and drove away. This never should've happened.
 
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People are always crossing busy city intersections on their phones completely oblivious to surroundings. Many people have lost their survival instincts. Very sad
 
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